Will this cover rehabilitate Frank Miller's rep?

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lookin at em side by side I'd say he has a p fair point

Οὖτις, Monday, 2 May 2016 17:01 (seven years ago) link

Some of his colors work much better, especially that Superman page.

earlnash, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 05:44 (seven years ago) link

goddamnit I thought this thread was going to be like

Yo, I'm MC Frank Miller
Now listen to my rhyme
You know Batman would never be
Soft on crime

how's life, Tuesday, 3 May 2016 11:11 (seven years ago) link

one year passes...

frank miller, now apparently 143 years old, speaks to the grauniad

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/d4e3969118a5a190de7860dc91389e73e3468a0b/0_30_4500_2700/master/4500.jpg?w=620&q=55&auto=format&usm=12&fit=max&s=3a09166e3bee8982873c50c36650a3ca

“My stuff always represents what I’m going through,” Miller says today. “Whenever I look at any of my work I can feel what my mindset was and I remember who I was with at the time. When I look at Holy Terror, which I really don’t do all that often, I can really feel the anger ripple out of the pages. There are places where it is bloodthirsty beyond belief.”

Does he have any regrets? “I don’t want to go back and start erasing books I did,” he replies. “I don’t want to wipe out chapters of my own biography. But I’m not capable of that book again.”

It’s worth noting that whatever his detractors may think of his politics, Miller still happily inveighs against “white, heterosexual family values” and has no interest in defending his views on Occupy Wall Street. “I wasn’t thinking clearly,” he confesses. Does he support Donald Trump? “Real men stay bald,” he says with a grin, lifting his hat to run a hand over his bare scalp.

and neal adams speaks!

But Miller’s subsequent success, Adams says, is not his doing. “Whatever you do, don’t say that I’m responsible for Frank Miller,” he warns. “I’ve done the same thing for a hundred guys and nobody responded the way Frank did. Nobody advanced that quickly. And I made it hard for him! If you’d gone through it, you’d have gone home crying. I never would have thought that he’d turn out to be what he is. He’s become like a son to me. I didn’t teach him any other of life’s lessons, unfortunately, and I should have. That was the bad part.”

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2018/apr/27/frank-miller-xerxes-cursed-sin-city-the-dark-knight-returns

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 10:53 (five years ago) link

miller def seems like less of a maniac in this interview than he has for a long time, hope he's doing okay

Mahogany Loggins (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 April 2018 10:53 (five years ago) link

Neal Adams seems cool.

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 28 April 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

I clearly have a lot of hard living to do over the next twenty years if I'm gonna catch up with that dude. Drugs are a helluva drug, man.

a REAL SCARIE robot!!!! (Old Lunch), Saturday, 28 April 2018 12:20 (five years ago) link

Most surprising thing about that interview is really Neal Adam's comments, believing that Miller was brought down by believing in his own fame, which lead him to drink excessively?

Nhex, Saturday, 28 April 2018 17:35 (five years ago) link

Ma, look at what Hollywood did to my boy!

earlnash, Saturday, 28 April 2018 19:57 (five years ago) link

I’ve thought that there must be some sort of (really slowly) degenerative condition going on behind his appearance and feebleness. It doesn’t seem like just substance abuse. We were both at the same party 12 years ago and even then I was like holy shit he is about to die. He got out of a car with help and then had trouble stepping up onto the curb. Idk how you plant yourself at the verge of death for decades like that, Burroughs is the only other example I can think of.

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Saturday, 28 April 2018 20:10 (five years ago) link

mark e. smith

ziggy the ginhead (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 April 2018 20:37 (five years ago) link

Most surprising thing about that interview is really Neal Adam's comments,

The beginning of this sentence is not capable of matching up with the next part

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Saturday, 28 April 2018 20:43 (five years ago) link

xpost

Burroughs was *always* stooped and kind of hobbling about. Even as a young man - well into his habits - Burroughs appeared 20 years older. And he lived to a grand old age! Miller otoh just looks like death warmed over.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 April 2018 21:07 (five years ago) link

That wasn't a complete final thought: He looks like death warmed over but he didn't look anything like that as a younger man.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 28 April 2018 21:08 (five years ago) link

Miller's face in that photo is performing some kind of weird perspective illusion where he appears to be looking in two directions at once. Human cubism.

To be honest he looks way better than he did four/five years ago, his declining health was pretty evident back then.

http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Frank+Miller+Frank+Miller+Sin+City+Dame+Kill+XLn4OBnvUUAl.jpg

Brainless Addlepated Timid Muddleheaded Awful No-Account (Pheeel), Saturday, 28 April 2018 21:15 (five years ago) link

goddamn who knew That Yellow Bastard as a self portrait

Nhex, Saturday, 28 April 2018 22:22 (five years ago) link

Ma, look at what Hollywood did to my boy!

I didn’t read it that way... he seemed to be putting the blame squarely on Miller; and partly on himself, for not “teaching” Miller better (as if it were his responsibility somehow, as a “father figure”).

i’m still stanning (morrisp), Saturday, 28 April 2018 23:24 (five years ago) link

Xpost jesus I’d forgotten how bad that photo was. He does look better now!

when worlds collide I'll see you again (Jon not Jon), Sunday, 29 April 2018 01:19 (five years ago) link

I didn’t read it that way... he seemed to be putting the blame squarely on Miller; and partly on himself, for not “teaching” Miller better (as if it were his responsibility somehow, as a “father figure”).

yeah I read it more as "know the difference between yourself, a person like any other person, and your work, which may well be powerful & have a profound effective on people" - Adams would know, he's a guy whose work had people deifying him early on, but in all fields there's people who really soak that up and get very lost in their own heads as a result.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 29 April 2018 02:21 (five years ago) link

Adams would know

Again...

chilis=lyrics...hypocrits (sic), Sunday, 29 April 2018 09:49 (five years ago) link


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