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ok whoa if you type "dq8" into google it automatically includes the expansion "dragon quest viii" into your search terms

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 24 August 2006 14:42 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm cute and I'm a controller too!

kingfish trapped under ice (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:34 (seventeen years ago) link

:(

there's some flash/anim demo out there of the chick running.

kingfish high command (kingfish 2.0), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:35 (seventeen years ago) link

if you can find that slime controller at gamestop, they marked the price down to $20.

Christopher Costello (CGC), Thursday, 24 August 2006 15:59 (seventeen years ago) link

29 hours! plz let this game go on for many, many more.

1. The oceans are rife with peril.
2. Alchemy is hard.
3. Great Sabrecats are not the easiest thing to steer.
4. The text explanation of why the Siren's Puff-Puff technique does not work on Jessica is the cherry on top of what is so far the best localization I have ever seen in a JRPG bar none.
5. If you have a PS2, but do not have this, you are wasting your time.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 28 August 2006 13:24 (seventeen years ago) link

OK re: 2, I took the entire Alchemy FAQ down, copied it into a new text file and changed it into a dingbats font, then deleted everything that came after the "=" character for each item. So I just have a list of ingredients that work together with no other information! I may or may not put it to much use, but if anybody wants a copy, just use this e-mail address.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 28 August 2006 16:56 (seventeen years ago) link

this game has turned me into a complete dork.

TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:03 (seventeen years ago) link

um

Vacillatrix (x Jeremy), Monday, 28 August 2006 19:20 (seventeen years ago) link

My roommate just bought this game, he is totally hogging it. I don't mind though because I just began my FIRST CHRONO TRIGGER PLAYTHROUGH EVER. Ever since Tales of Symphonia I get kind of agitated that RPGs aren't 2 player.

captain reverend gandalf jesus (nickalicious), Monday, 28 August 2006 20:57 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
So anyhow I beat the fat fucker at the "end." I stopped there because I have a thesis to write, so no more games until that happens. I'm going to start all over from the beginning in January because I missed a ton of shit and it's worth it, I think. However:

I'll get a new copy when it drops down to ten or fifteen bucks. - It's $19.99 on Amazon now.

Red Scarlet's FAQ goes into a lot more detail (and is the best overall FAQ for anything you need to know, dude played through the game over 10 times) - I've read part of this faq and it's terrible. this would be the reason I avoid walkthroughs; dude literally eschews fun completely and he tells you as much multiple times. It's like he's training you for a speed run. Ugh.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 18:55 (seventeen years ago) link

I never quite got into this past nine hours or so. Think I'll try again.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

Oh, I wouldn't recommend using the walkthrough for any game if you want to have any fun, no. Just as a reference if you're stuck on something in particular.

I still haven't got around to beating the Ultimate Dragon. I beat all the other ones and got all the prizes (the dragovian armor + helmet makes Hero look pretty cool, it's like a samurai outfit), but the only point to beating him is if you're going for 100% monsters and items, which I'm not even close to yet. There are other games, and that shit is tedious.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 26 October 2006 02:09 (seventeen years ago) link

I'm imagining shit could be a lot less tedious if I actually talked to Morrie before beating The Fat Hovering Trucker From Hell, among other things.

Nine hours?!?!? You ain't even got properly puff-puffed at nine hours.

SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 26 October 2006 02:41 (seventeen years ago) link

Ha, dude I totally ignored Morrie too! I had that little cutscene where you look at him on the roof and was all "whatever" and just kept walking. It wasn't until I was getting near the end and realised I hadn't found the monster arena yet that I remembered that and went back to see what his deal was. Duh.

Marmot (marmotwolof), Thursday, 26 October 2006 03:08 (seventeen years ago) link

I got to the church after I got off the boat and then got distracted by, you know... life. Got me some slime scalps on my belt, tho.

Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Thursday, 26 October 2006 06:14 (seventeen years ago) link

things I plan to do when I pick it back up and start over:

1. axes instead of clubs
2. better distribution of skill points instead of just racing to 100 in a couple of them to see what happens
3. spears instead of swords
4. whips instead of staves
5. sabers instead of bows
6. more cheese
7. monster arena, as noted
8. more fastidious/obsessive-compulsive use of "nose for treasure"
9. actually follow through with minnie and dodgy dave


SOME LOW END BRO (TOMBOT), Thursday, 26 October 2006 11:48 (seventeen years ago) link

one year passes...

Finally playing this. Great soundtrack. Turns out the music composer is supposedly some rightwing japanese schmuck. I doodled blue slimes while having to sit thru cpr class today.

I want a slime controller. It's still only like $20 + shipping.

kingfish, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 07:57 (sixteen years ago) link

Does it still have the optional/compulsory free-roaming plains around the towns with nothing to do but fight piss-takingly lame baddies, through darkness or grass and on and on and on for no reward but some pittance of experience or gold? Is it all bad guys and levels and dungeons that are impossible to beat until you engage those endless tedious battles and up your levels? Is it all "you have encountered 3 GREEN SLIME. Do you attack, defend, run? You have defeated 3 GREEN SLIME. You gain 3 GOLD 3 EXP.) for hours and hours and hours?

DUEDS this is what I LOVE about Dragon Quest/Dragon Warrior!

Tho admittedly VII has much better shit in it.

Abbott, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

uh...VIII

shoulda gone w/Arabic numbers, they're hard to misspell

Abbott, Tuesday, 20 November 2007 23:07 (sixteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

OMG I am loving this game. Just up to the DARK RUINS and have died at the hands of DHOULEMAGUESYUS.

I broke this out because I broke my collarbone and need to not move around much and boy howdy did it work. Only problem is via roomy seeing me play it he's decided he wants to REplay it and is on the fucking thing like 10 hours a day and I am not getting any playtime and I have to constantly remind him that I'm the one with the broken fucking collarbone and dude please just be fair.

I love ALCHEMY and MAKING GNARLY SHIT. For the longest time also I was certain Trode's voice was the guy who was Hoggle in Labyrinth. Alas.

Also BOUNCY BOOBS! This is the best game.

nickalicious, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link

I've been trying to spread out my skill points between a variety of things but now I'm wishing I had dropped them all into one weapon each.

nickalicious, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:49 (sixteen years ago) link

I'd be playing it right now instead of digging up old threads about it on ILX if I had my way.

Okay I am going to go lay a guilt trip on a motherfucker again.

nickalicious, Monday, 17 December 2007 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Have fun with alchemy but be careful with the Slime Crowns, there's only like 2 in the game.

abanana, Monday, 17 December 2007 22:02 (sixteen years ago) link

Also BOUNCY BOOBS!

you're talking about slimes, right?

Jordan, Monday, 17 December 2007 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm not even about to alchemyize the one slimecrown I've got; in fact I'm completely resisting the urges to get massive alchemy & skill lists online because I am enjoying so much doing it myself.

ALSO: I had been making crazy cheeses in the alchemy pot for like 10 hours of gametime before I realized exactly what to DO with them...and NOW I am REALLY enjoying the CHEESE IN BATTLE OPTION.

Also where are the best monsters for my team? Right now my best 3 are the goldman guy, an orc guy and a chicken guy with a sword.

nickalicious, Tuesday, 18 December 2007 01:15 (sixteen years ago) link

five months pass...

I'm playing this again from scratch. It's still a blast.

El Tomboto, Sunday, 8 June 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

important discovery: axes better than clubs

El Tomboto, Sunday, 8 June 2008 21:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Scythes better than both, though.

Lamp, Monday, 9 June 2008 04:32 (fifteen years ago) link

I like the boomerang.

Abbott, Monday, 9 June 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

is the scythe really the best weapon for yangus? even in the endgame?

what should I do with the templar this time around? last time I had him with the bow & arrow, I dunno what should be his steez.

El Tomboto, Monday, 9 June 2008 22:44 (fifteen years ago) link

For scythes its only 70 points to Stainless Steel and 80 points to Attack +25. I can't remember what the modifier is for the ss attack (+30% maybe) but that's still a really good increase for an attack with 0 cost. With an axe you only get an Attack +20 boost that requires 82 points + the special moves cost 2/3 sp. Also, you can get the second-best scythe relatively early via the Monster Arena.

I think the best weapon for Yangus in the end game is the flail you get from Minnie but that takes a v. long time to get and you can stop leveling scythes after 80 points anyway.

I level staves for Angelo but maybe not actually the best? Level whatever you want him for e.g. I use him mostly for healing/defence so Staff of Antimagic (which you can get pre-Trodian) + the MP +20 skill works for me until after Baccart at least. If you need him for attack then swords is best since you can get an A+ rapier v. quickly as well. Bows are a good compromise of the other two esp. if you're leveling knives w/Jessica and thus cannot get Liquid Metal Swords for both.

Lamp, Tuesday, 10 June 2008 01:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I beat it a few weeks back and it took me close to 80 hours. If I do the whole trials thing at the end, about how much longer should it take?

James, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link

20-40 more?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 11 June 2008 23:06 (fifteen years ago) link

Re-reading my post above made me realise that even if I start a Chaos Wars thread I can't look like any more of loser than I already do. Still... update?

Lamp, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I was planning to move ahead this week but drinking and lurve got in the way. also a little bit of work, but eh.

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

real definition of loser = dude who is disappointed in himself, even for just a moment, because he let fucking and drinking get in the way of pre-planned video game progress

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Lechery, sir, it provokes, and unprovokes;
it provokes the desire, but it takes
away the performance: therefore, much drink
may be said to be an equivocator with lechery:
it makes him, and it mars him; it sets
him on, and it takes him off; it persuades him,
and disheartens him; makes him stand to, and
not stand to; in conclusion, equivocates him
in a sleep, and, giving him the lie, leaves him.

Lamp, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link

Alternate post: My girlfriend accused me of continuing to play videogames while she talking to me. It's true. Now we're not drinking or fucking. What do I do?

Lamp, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:40 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah jessica has some bazooms

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:49 (fifteen years ago) link

tell her your frequent erections are for her to do with as she pleases and if she wants more than that then good fuckin' luck on the circuit

El Tomboto, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:50 (fifteen years ago) link

I heard those were Pavan's last, heartbroken words to Sasha in the Japanese version of the game.

Lamp, Monday, 16 June 2008 05:58 (fifteen years ago) link

one month passes...

about 40 hours in on playthrough #2 (this time it's for keeps!) and a few thoughts

1. the knowledge to build and operate an alchemy pot has got to be some close-hold black helicopter shit because there's no way you could let people play with these things willy-nilly and expect a barter economy to survive - clearly king trode, despite his ignorance of the scepter's significance, has been keeping good notes on THIS (and who can blame him, it basically prints money, or should I say moon's mercy)

1a. interestingly, however, the fortune-teller's trade is a common one, and valued at jack of all shit in the epoch our adventure occupies; compare and contrast with the 21st century where the "knowledge worker" and "creative" class rule the roost and people who make things are regarded as either the globe's poo-poo or at best a troop of rustic craftsmen who just couldn't deal with a real career; in the age of equities trading it's the motherfuckers with the crystal balls who run the show and not some lil' dude with a pot in his wagon

2. the party structure, even given the addition of the monster team (Donkey Force Alpha, if you must ask, maxed out the 18 character limit, that's right) argues for small elite units in military operations and takes a very clear stance against conscription; sure the world is full of tough guys and bad-asses and all manner of talented privateers, but any mission worth doing demands a far more discriminate bunch of revenge-bent lunatics highly motivated individuals

2a. in contrast to 1a, we see this actually playing out in modern times, where asymmetric warfare has become the rule and laggardly divisions of draftees are the exception

3. I'm certainly not the first to point this out but it is quite disappointing that the simple switch from fishnet stockings to the much more effective ruby of protection as an accessory means having to give up the bunny girl costume altogether. That shit doesn't even make any sense.

4. Man I'm happy I read the gameFAQs this time around, jesus

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 July 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

oh and 5. is Jessica adopted or is it just me

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 July 2008 09:22 (fifteen years ago) link

or perhaps she has the same problem as Angelo/Marcello, right place, wrong parent? Actually that goes for the Hero as well I suppose, man these kids are all fucked up

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 July 2008 09:24 (fifteen years ago) link

this shit is so much more enjoyable to think about than my job or the economy, unfortunately it keeps me up just as late (but less drunk)

El Tomboto, Thursday, 17 July 2008 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link

That is the best thing I've ever read, Tombot.

Abbott, Wednesday, 23 July 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

four weeks pass...

5. Marcello's speech to the gathered boojwahzee on Neos is great; the whole game's plotline (bloodline? lol!) is rooted in the business of family descent, and then he just stands in front of everyone and goes off on how meritocracy is the way of the future also PS. fuk u if u disagree

5a. Sounds vaguely acceptable at first but then you realize he's actually a proto-fascist or a pretty boy bolshevik, especially the part where he calls out the Goddess as just another false idol. It's a nicely done moment because at this point you've been to Tyran Gully and dealt with all sorts of discrimination yourselves, this fuckwit up on the dais may be ahead of the curve on a couple of points but one more putsch and he's going to be gassing the fatties and belt-sanding the nuts off every male who doesn't enlist in the Templars. Compared to Marcello that Charmles looks harmless, amirite.

5b. The bit after DQ9/11 happens and Angelo saves him almost out of spite is money. "You know I REALLY don't care," in the Jude Law voice and everything. I basically never gave two shits about Angelo outside of casting Multiheal until he said that.

6. Pickham is an interesting social experiment, a bit sci-fi really. Why does every city have to have its own accompanying slums? Why not just have one city that's all the slums at once? The dregs of every major area wind up sleeping on the dusty floors in a den of thieves and fighting over scraps. Plus you put it just far enough out of the way that they don't bother anyone else, except to consume the occasional gambling addict who can't afford to sail to Baccarat anymore. The whole Swordsman's Labyrinth fetch-quest could practically be a John Carpenter film by way of Sam Raimi.

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 22:36 (fifteen years ago) link

7. Are Slimes the Jews of monsterdom?

El Tomboto, Wednesday, 20 August 2008 22:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Angelo is kind of dreamy.

Oh my god to what new lows can a lady sink?

Abbott, Thursday, 21 August 2008 18:41 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f105/ELEmblem/puff/102206057.jpg

El Tomboto, Thursday, 21 August 2008 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link


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