Led Zeppelin: Classic Or Dud?

this implicit progression was symbolised by the band's unwillingness to let their rip-offs go credited to the original writers

Led Zeppelin's blues songs are NOT ripoffs and they DID NOT steal them!! They don't sound ANYTHING like the originals. Have you ever heard "When the Levee Breaks" by Memphis Minnee? Or "In My Time of Dying" by Bob Dylan?? Ever notice that they sound absolutely NOTHING like Zep's versions??? I really hate it when rock critics say this to somehow degrade Zep's music. It was pretty much the reason why Rolling Stone hated Zep so much. As if that IN ANY WAY has anything to do with how Zep's records sound!!

1. When Zep were good they were really good!!!!!
2. When they weren't good, they really stunk!!!!!
3. Generally the good bits outwiegh the bad, up until about the last couple of albums!!!!!
4. Concert-wise, they were pretty good, if a little bombastic!!!!!
5. The Song Remains The Same being the major exception to the previous point!!!!!
6. It's pretty obvious they weren't just a "metal" band!!!!!!!
7. The bits about the hobbits are really funny!!!!!

I grew up in the '70's and worshiped Zep. When The Song Remains the Same came out I skipped school to see it. It sucked. All those imaginings I had of how much Zep ruled were dashed on the over-blown histronics on Dazed and Confused, I mean God save me,a therimin solo?
I think that this left open the door to The Ramones and the Pistols for me. When Rotten pointed at the dinosaur, I saw it in my record collection.
So I have stood as a Zeppelin detractor for 20 years, then I heard How the West was Won, and ...ah-ha! Here was the band that I loved.

1. when the levee breaks - New Orleans
water

2. Kashmir - Asian Earthquake
earth

what next? something related to the sun? the moon?

Go listen to this list of songs then come tell me zep aren't good, infact why noy go one better and learn to them one guitar then tell me they're not worth listening to man.
list:
Wanton Song
Heartbreaker
In the light
All of my love
houses of the holy
no quarter
achilles last stand
over the hills and far away

ha you won't evn get through Heartbreaker before you turn around and go "oh fuck that"
Page plays a unique scale at a speed you won't believe

Anyone going to try and get a ticket?

lol shitty olden days bands

Fucking Jason Bonham. I would only go if this dude plays drums.

Fucking Paolo Nutini more like. £125 and I've got to put up with that?

I heard Stairway on the radio today. Anybody who says it doesn't rule is a goddamn neo-rockist.

this was posted here Led Zeppelin set to reform but some details are starting to come out:

Tickets costing £125 ($254) will be allocated on a lottery basis through the Ahmettribute.com web site. Billboard.com understands there are no plans to broadcast or commercially release music from the show.

Putting an end to several months of speculation, it was confirmed today (Sept. 13) during a press conference at the O2 that the three surviving members of Led Zeppelin -- Robert Plant, Jimmy Page and John Paul Jones -- would reunite onstage for just the third time in 27 years. The drummer for the evening will be Jason Bonham, son of the band's original drummer John Bonham, who died from a heart attack in 1980.

"This is going to be the largest demand for one show in history," promoter Harvey Goldsmith said today, adding that Zeppelin will play a full two-hour set. "I can only tell from the buzz going around now, but it is really just filtering around the world. I feel there's going to be a huge amount of pressure (on tickets)."

The concert will follow the release of a new Atlantic/Rhino two-disc, 24-track best-of Zeppelin set, "Mothership," due Nov. 13 in the United States.

Word up to J0hn
Also an hour ago I put "In the Light" on a jukebox here in PDX and it sounded fab as all hell

Great, another best of Zeppelin set. Just what the world needs.

i'd rather jack

Maybe if Danny Wilson reformed I'd give a shit.

argh, the second summer of love is here...

Great, another best of Zeppelin set. Just what the world needs.

Yeah, but if it includes "Flash Light" and "Dr. Funkenstein," that could be pretty cool.

sean kingston does an homage to "d'yer maker" on his album - the time is right!!

I just heard on the radio that 20 MILLION people have entered the ticket lottery.

ZEPPPELLLIN FUCK YEAHHHHHARRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHH

So, anyone's been to the show tonight?

Is it true they played a Spice Girls cover?

Report please!

(this message may contain a lame attempt at spreading fake rumors)

Oh, it's not finished yet, apparently. The NME's liveblogging it:

http://www.nme.com/news/led-zeppelin/33075

'Good Times Bad Times'
'Ramble On'
'Black Dog'
'In My Time Of Dying'
'For Your Life'
'Trampled Under Foot'
'Nobody's Fault But Mine'
'No Quarter'
'Since I've Been Loving You'
'Dazed And Confused'
'Stairway To Heaven'
'The Song Remains The Same'
'Misty Mountain Hop'
'Kashmir'
'Whole Lotta Love'
'Rock And Roll'

I listened to Zep II today. And it ruled.

Dud.

You mad.

an awful, awful band.

Led zeppelin fucked a girl with a shark. they also made some totally huge sounding music. also, they made some pretty bad music. seeing as they fucked that girl with the shark,though, they rule.

-- swastikas forever, Wednesday, January 24, 2001 7:00 PM (6 years ago) Bookmark Link

no-one in the office today, i'm putting on II now.

hmmm... from that blog, awesome:

'For Your Life'

"That's not something you get to hear often these days, Led Zeppelin giving a song its live debut."

zeppelin fucking rules

I <3 Mothership disc one

No Levee, No Credibility

I've heard one Daphne & Celeste song once and it had more of an impact on me than all the Zeppelin I've ever heard put together. I still never recognize Stairway to Heaven until 6 minutes in. I'm all for cruising around in battered pickup trucks smoking weed drinking beer and checking out the chicks, but gimme Kid Rock over Zeppelin any day.

good ol' 0tis, bringing a special level of wtf RONG to every thread he ever touched, r.i.p.

the original segment of this thread is a fucking embarassment

classic. I was actually a bigger fan of the some of the later stuff too (Houses of the Holy is my favorite)....

Still maintain that Page is 10x more interesting and influential as a producer than as a guitarist/writer guy

bringing a special level of wtf RONG to every thread he ever touched

Hey, you'd know.

I already argued this on some other thread, but DUD.

>>Has How the West Was Won changed any minds?

I grew up in the '70's and worshiped Zep. When The Song Remains the Same came out I skipped school to see it. It sucked. All those imaginings I had of how much Zep ruled were dashed on the over-blown histronics on Dazed and Confused, I mean God save me,a therimin solo?

I didn't skip school but I saw it with a beautiful girl who wore a hearing aid. Horrible. Boring. A handjob in the front seat of the car would have been better.

How the West Was One was a bit better because it was split over three CDs and you could skip the Dazed and Confused and Moby Dick stuff easier than you could with the vinyl. But it wasn't that much better.

Distinctions now erased by re-release of Song Remains The Same in twice-the-length deluxe and ultra-deluxe pack. "Mothership" comes in two versions. The long one and the really really long one, the latter which includes selections from the Led Zeppelin DVD which plays just like a CD. Of the latter, the best part is the concert from the Albert Hall in '70 which is still two hours and a bit repetitive.

Pagey and Percy are still laboring under the assumption that we really really really like to hear them play the lo-0-o-0-o-n-g-g-g blooz. While I don't always care for it, substantially -- they may be right.

"Immigrant Song" from Long Beach in 71 or 72 still kills as a perfect example of early heavy metal.