David Bowie - over-rated or justifiably hated?

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I had a six-month Bowie phase in the second year at uni. I used to do impressions of him. T'was great. These days I just like him.

Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Saturday, 21 June 2003 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

The only thing I'd ever buy of his now would be that Rykodisc double CD singles comp (I've already got Station thru Scary Monsters), but I'll always be willing to LISTEN to insanities like this "YOUR MIND. BLOW IT!" song referenced above. He's as good as bad gets or as bad as good gets depending on your tastes. Duran Duran is SO his fault, which means a lot of people here are David Bowie's fault.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 June 2003 16:21 (twenty years ago) link

I always thought he blew it when he decided that 1983's dress code was going be "International Pop Sensation," having pretty much run through everything else from heavy mental through astute artistic wonkery. Of course, he nailed the role, leaving him with nowhere to go but sideways for the next 20 years.

PS New new digital revamp of "Ziggy: The Motion Picture" is Mick Ronson's finest hour and a half.

Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Sunday, 22 June 2003 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

TS: referring to DB circa 1983 as "blonde hair explosion king" vs. "International Pop Sensation"!

Tad (llamasfur), Friday, 27 June 2003 06:54 (twenty years ago) link

heh, alot of people here are David Bowie's fault

James Blount (James Blount), Friday, 27 June 2003 07:02 (twenty years ago) link

five years pass...

Let's talk about Bowie. I want to talk about Bowie. Is the "David Live" album any good?

Bimble Is Still More Goth Than You, Monday, 28 July 2008 00:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Not very, no.

J0hn D., Monday, 28 July 2008 00:43 (fifteen years ago) link

Sorry to sound all "rockist," but "over-rated or justifiably hated," without a "good-to-great" option? Seems wrong.

Daniel, Esq., Monday, 28 July 2008 00:52 (fifteen years ago) link

He's overrated by those who think he can sing, sure.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 28 July 2008 01:45 (fifteen years ago) link

'stage' is the live album to get. adrian belew!

haitch, Monday, 28 July 2008 01:58 (fifteen years ago) link

belew 'em all off the stage, didn't he

goole, Monday, 28 July 2008 03:14 (fifteen years ago) link

last interesting round of ilm bowie chat was here:

BOWIE VS STEELY

goole, Monday, 28 July 2008 03:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Stage is rather bad. Live, Bowie is best seen rather than heard.

Owen Pallett, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:32 (fifteen years ago) link

That is to say, it works better with the visuals. There was an amazing '77 concert at Muzikladen on the Youtube a while ago, but it got taken down once Matrixsynth picked up on it

Owen Pallett, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:36 (fifteen years ago) link

I really like David Live. The total inhumanity and coldness of the record appeals to me and is ideal for him. In a way it's his Metal Machine Music if we're talking depersonalisation. It's as if he's stranded on Mars and all his songs are in a lay-by in Stanmore.

Dingbod Kesterson, Monday, 28 July 2008 08:44 (fifteen years ago) link

Let's talk about Bowie. I want to talk about Bowie. Is the "David Live" album any good?

eh it's alright. Stage is ten times better.

stephen, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 03:03 (fifteen years ago) link

is that really great version of "Blackout" on Stage? Blackout Live is Bowie POV for sure

Is it safe to say that David Bowie is one of those artists with NO DISCERNABLE INDIVIDUAL SONGWRITING STYLE, from album to album? I don't know if this means he's very diverse, or just a corporate whore.

In my mind, I'd say, there's a very tangible sense of Bowiesque songwriting.. All of his songs have a sort of simplicity and, excluding his more abstract material, melodic verve. I'd say it's harder to reconcile "TV EYE" and "Candy" being written by the same man than it is "The Man Who Sold the World" and "Ashes to Ashes." I think Bowie's lyrical style is a dead giveaway, too. Did anyone ever notice that "Fantastic Voyage" and "Boys Keep Swinging" are the exact same chords and song structure with different songs on top? I always thought that was a remarkable feat of songwriting, and one he pulled off ina very unique way.

people explosion, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 04:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Also Red Money/Sister Midnight

Niles Caulder, Tuesday, 29 July 2008 05:55 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Thought I saw an ad for a new album today but it turns out it's just a release of that VH1 thing he did around when hours... came out. I guess he's just going to relax and do random backing vocals from here on in or something.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 August 2009 18:44 (fourteen years ago) link

The thought of someone hating David Bowie DOES NOT COMPUTE.

My mom told me a little bit ago the 'Ashes to Ashes' was playing on the hospital room TV while she was in labor & she was annoyed bcz my dad was paying attention to it and not her. I don't blame him!

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Monday, 3 August 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link

While she was in labor...WITH ME!!!

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Monday, 3 August 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I miss his original choppers, tho.

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Monday, 3 August 2009 19:01 (fourteen years ago) link

More specifically: http://areaology.com/area.html

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Monday, 3 August 2009 19:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I listened to Reality for the first time in ages. A very good record – a lesser Lodger, of which it's a thematic and aura cousin.

Heric E. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 August 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

(xxxpost)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtrjZRQ8TzU

grocery groin (snoball), Monday, 3 August 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

While she was in labor...WITH ME!!!

"Abbott to Abbott..."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 August 2009 19:15 (fourteen years ago) link

"My mama said to get me born
She had to tell Dad to stop being torn..."

Ned Raggett, Monday, 3 August 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

<3

a muttering inbred (called) (not named) (Abbott), Monday, 3 August 2009 21:32 (fourteen years ago) link

reality is alright, I liked it a lot at first, then really hated it, now I'm back to thinking "eh". it's no heathen. I hope that when he gets around to doing a new album it's at least that good.

akm, Monday, 3 August 2009 22:26 (fourteen years ago) link

Heathen had too many ballads. Then again, maybe that's all he can write and sing now.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 3 August 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...

As found/shared by Tom E. on Twitter -- a new blog dedicated to reviewing Bowie's output song by song (currently in late 1966):

http://bowiesongs.wordpress.com/

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 August 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link

good use of "cat people" in the new tarantino movie. couldn't tell what song it was at first

kamerad, Saturday, 29 August 2009 17:50 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

Just out for a stroll.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/418843_253659648083931_1472298826_n.jpg

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:10 (eleven years ago) link

Something tells me he knows he's being photographed.

Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:12 (eleven years ago) link

You don't say.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:17 (eleven years ago) link

Something tells me he's trying to look like an "American".

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

a young one at that.

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:18 (eleven years ago) link

RETURN OF THE THIN WHITE DAD

da croupier, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:19 (eleven years ago) link

throwing darts in photog's eyes

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:20 (eleven years ago) link

"You know, before I go to the reviews section to find out what exciting acts are coming up from the underground...let's just check where Uncut put me on this 100 icons thing."

da croupier, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:21 (eleven years ago) link

might as well, right?

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link

The Top Ten
1. Dylan, Bob – Highway 61 Revisited
2. Presley, Elvis – Heartbreak Hotel [7”]
3. Beatles – She Loves You [7”]
4. Rolling Stones – (I Can’t Get No) Satisfaction [7”]
5. A Clockwork Orange (film)
6. Godfather / Godfather Part 2 (films)
7. Bowie, David – Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust & the Spiders from Mars
8. Taxi Driver (film)
9. Sex Pistols – Never Mind the Bollocks, Here’s the…
10. Prisoner [TV series]

He's reasonable enough that I bet his only quibble with the six above him is A Clockwork Orange

da croupier, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:25 (eleven years ago) link

http://images.thegauntlet.com/pics/manson-fuck.jpg

Hi, I'm Marilyn Manson, please don't take my picture! (But please do, because I am Marilyn Manson, boo!)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

What the shit, get that out of here.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:26 (eleven years ago) link

Looks like he and Jonathan Davis can go on the "Where's My Metabolism" tour.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link

What's he doing to that little kid's hand?

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

he tore the arm off at the socket

a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:31 (eleven years ago) link

It's actually the prehensile tale of his trained pet devil pig.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:32 (eleven years ago) link

dude with camera filming while kid gets dismembered...

collardio gelatinous, Tuesday, 14 August 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link


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