South Park: Classic or Dud?

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i think it peaked around the time of the movie but is still better than any other animated comedy right now

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:02 (twenty years ago) link

South Park is about 6% funny, at best

the ol' 'blind 'em with vague science' trick eh?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

It's still great. The Passion episode was insanely funny.

― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

(xpost) Have you seen the Passion of the Christ episode? Or the sex-ed episode? Or the Lemmywinks episode? Or the coffee chain episode? Or the chicken pox episode?

Furthermore, Ren & Stimpy had ONE funny season (the first one).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:15 (twenty years ago) link

I spent part of the weekend gigglnig just by thinking of the epsiode where Cartman tries to go to school on Halloween as Hitler.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:17 (twenty years ago) link

Cartman is completely irredeemable at this point. It's great!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

I laugh so hard at this show that I embarrass myself. (I live alone.)

― Jeanne Fury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 7 April 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

ren and stimpy season one >>>>>>> all south park ever.

― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago) link

South Park's still good. There's still no ther show on TV that can show a gerbil embarking on a mystical quest inside a gay leather slut's ass.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:13 (twenty years ago) link

ugh..."ther" = "other".

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:14 (twenty years ago) link

I watched it when it first came out, then tired of it and didn't watch it for about 4 or 5 years. Been watching it semi-regularly recently and it's pretty good. In fact, the last few weeks I've been getting more chuckles out of South Park than Chappelle, which follows it.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 00:16 (twenty years ago) link

ren and stimpy season one >>>>>>> all south park ever.

I'm sorry, but this is flat-out wrong. The ONLY Ren & Stimpy episode that can compare to South PArk is "Space Madness".

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:36 (twenty years ago) link

Did the two guys do any live-action movies after Baseketball?

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:41 (twenty years ago) link

No, cause how could you ever top that?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:47 (twenty years ago) link

though wasn't one of them in some quasi-porno?

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 01:48 (twenty years ago) link

Orgazmo was finished before Baseketball was, but released later.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:05 (twenty years ago) link

Please tell me you had to look that up.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:35 (twenty years ago) link

south park joke

― alan r. banana (alanbanana), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:45 (twenty years ago) link

nope, i saw both flicks in the theater.

altho, Orgazmo DID require us to sneak booze in, just in case.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:48 (twenty years ago) link

The only thing I remember from Baseketball is one saying "How to speak San Franciscan"-pulling down his pants-"vagina!"

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 02:51 (twenty years ago) link

>South Park's still good. There's still no ther show on TV that
>can show a gerbil embarking on a mystical quest inside a gay
>leather slut's ass.

See, there's that attitude. South Park is good because they're
shocking, they're dangerous, they're pushing the limit.
PLEASE. That's not enough.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:00 (twenty years ago) link

But that isn't funny because it's shocking or dangerous (it's not) - it's funny because it's a gerbil embarking on a mystical quest inside a gay leather slut's ass.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:01 (twenty years ago) link

That post didn't mention anything about being dangerous or shocking. Maybe the postee finds that South Park is the only show who's sense of humor is as bizarre as their own.

xpost my thoughts exactly

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

Effing dud, Milo. You're describing a setup - no setup is
inherently funny. The humor is all in what you do with the material.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:03 (twenty years ago) link

no you're just making with the crazy talk. In comedy 90% of the time the setup is the only thing funny. (the onion to thread)

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:05 (twenty years ago) link

also, the lemmiwinks ep was funny as fuck, thanks to Trey & matt doing their version of those shite 70's folky pop songs from the Rankin Bass Hobbit...

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:07 (twenty years ago) link

Oops, the Onion's ouevre IS the headlines, really.
Just like bumper stickers, there's no setup or punchline
in that short form.

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:18 (twenty years ago) link

whatever. setups can be inherently funny. i'm willing to bet the vast majority of comedy begins with a funny setup, and is then fleshed out in order to fill up the appropriate amount of time/pages.

― oops (Oops), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:22 (twenty years ago) link

Squir-Po (if I may call you that), you are so "Humor-ist".

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:24 (twenty years ago) link

Well, there are a lot of ways to do great comedy, I couldn't
deny that. But for me, South Park falls direly short in every
aspect.

So I decided to flip on the new episode, thinking that maybe
I'd been unfairly dismissive...

...nope, this IS shit.

"Never date a man with only one credit card. He probably doesn't spend much,
or even worse, it's a debit card. Four credit cards is kinda fishy...so what's
the perfect number of credit cards? Two! That's Right!"

"Boxing is a man's sport...when you're boxing, you're man at your most man.
So just reach inside for that most man part."

This kind of pap passes for comedy in some circles? And why have
we seen the teacher's wife crash & burn ten times and counting?

― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Thursday, 8 April 2004 03:51 (twenty years ago) link

wow Squirrel you're right. it's not funny at all. and to think how wrong i've been in my laughter and enjoyment of this show for so many years.

Thanks for opening my eyes!

― Ask For Samantha (thatgirl), Thursday, 8 April 2004 04:03 (twenty years ago) link

The first few seasons of SP were mostly shock humor and not that good. Somewhere around the movie they stopped fucking around and decided to turn the show into a strongly moralistic show, where the message is "people need to stop being such fuckwits and act a little more human" and it became golden. Seasons 5 & 6 are the best so far. The new season has been a bit weak so far but still worth watching. Best episodes include "Scott Tenerman Must Die", the Butters episode, the LoTR parody (goddamn that's a good one), "Red Sleigh Down", and, in a completely different vein, "Kenny Dies." [/geek]

The only thing I ever enjoyed about Ren & Stimpy was the line "It's better than bad, it's good!" The artwork was hideous (whereas SP is total eye candy).

― ...in bed. (Chris Piuma), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:31 (twenty years ago) link

I loved the one with Cartman's Dawson's Creek lunchbox - the 2001 parody!

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

"I..can't let you do that..Kyle"

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:35 (twenty years ago) link

the lord of the rings parody one is fucking amazing. i think the series before the current one is pure gold

― the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 8 April 2004 09:39 (twenty years ago) link

The Halloween episode with Korn as the Scooby-Doo gang was pretty fucking hysterical, too.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:09 (twenty years ago) link

i still hold "Not Without My Anus" as the best thing they've ever put on television.

here's a buncha quotes from the show, for your reffing pleasure

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:41 (twenty years ago) link

The LOTR one was just pure unadulterated genius. ESOJ OTM.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

"Trapper Keeper" is the best episode. It parodies about a dozen different sci-fi movies in the space of 21 minutes.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:44 (twenty years ago) link

wtf was up with that episode i saw recently where they start turning into Simpsons-style cariactures as well, incredible

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:45 (twenty years ago) link

It parodies about a dozen different sci-fi movies in the space of 21 minutes.

as did the masterful 'Deep Space Homer'

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

hmm, well maybe just The Right Stuff, 2001 and Planet Of The Apes

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

also, the "Children of the Corn" ep was a good mashup too, of Thunderdome, Star Trek, and the Stephen King flick.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, the LOTR one was just amazing - you can really tell that the guys are fans. I think that the show is *very rarely* shocking for the sake of being shocking, and I could name dozes and dozens of hilarious SP moments that don't deal with gross-out humor or shock value AT ALL. Funnily enough, while the accusations of "lack of heart", cheap gags and overtly cynical outlooks don't ring true for me concerning "South Park" AT ALL, they do pretty much sum up my thoughts on the shows that ppl here have trotted out as being superior ("Ren & Stimpy", "Beavis & Butthead")

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:46 (twenty years ago) link

Mongolians attacking the city walls in the child abduction episode reduced me to tears.

― Ricardo (RickyT), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:50 (twenty years ago) link

I've seen bugger all since series 4, and I'm gutted. It's on so late now, like 1am or something. I'll buy the series five DVD box when it comes out.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:51 (twenty years ago) link

wtf kingfish, "Not Without My Anus" is the worst episode they ever made! Terrance & Philip are probably the closest that SP has come to being guilty of what its detractors accuse it of...I mean, the anti-canadian humor was done much better in the movie and in "Red Sleigh Down", and Saddam's had plenty better appearences, too, so what do you have left after that? Also, maybe this is a cultural thing, but I've never understood exactly what T&P are supposed to be a parody of.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:53 (twenty years ago) link

Also, maybe this is a cultural thing, but I've never understood exactly what T&P are supposed to be a parody of.

T&P were designed to be everything that the show was originally accused of being; nothing but "fart jokes & bad animation," as Trey & Matt have said repeatedly in episodes.

the Not Without My Anus was killer for me in that it was the most bizarro/non-sequitor thing they've ever done. They were also proud that they got the Canadian National Anthem on twice on american tv within 22 minutes.

― Kingfish Balzac (Kingfish), Thursday, 8 April 2004 11:59 (twenty years ago) link

The live action ad in the middle of the Cherokee Hair Tampons episode is one of the funniest things ever.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:02 (twenty years ago) link

ren and stimpy season one >>>>>>> all south park ever.
No. The genius of Ren and Stimpy can be summed up in 6 cartoons: "Stimpy's Invention" (the Happy Helmet); "Black Hole"; "Space Madness"; "Son of Stimpy" (...and it made as souuuunnnnd!); "Yak Shaving Day"; and the "All Kids Love Log" spots.
Now, granted, these individual 'toons are brilliance that will never be exceeded by anyone...anywhere...ever, but sadly, if you put all of that on a VCR tape, and you have slightly less than 1 hour of entertainment. And it's all the Ren and Stimpy you'll ever need.
Nothing else in the series measures up.

South Park on the other hand, has had its ups and downs (the "You Got Served" episode last night was kind of lame) but has had episodes that come close to brilliance. Such as the LOTR parody, or their satire of The Passion.

― Lord Custos Omicron (Lord Custos Omicron), Thursday, 8 April 2004 12:07 (twenty years ago) link

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