I don't think Union is a class signifier outside of England, hardly. I don't dislike watching Union matches, tho I far prefer League which to me is a way faster, more beautiful game to watch. I just hate the England team and their smug, Daily Mail reading, management book co-writing players.
― Noodle Vague, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh i dunno, lots of posh people play rugby. But when it comes to the national team no-one cares as if they can beat England then it's good enough for them. It was one of the few sports we were good at.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link
collingwood's gone. 2 runs from 50 balls.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:55 (sixteen years ago) link
Collingwood lbw Vettori 2 (Eng 59-5) xpost
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:56 (sixteen years ago) link
i know, it's just i'm not smug and don't read the daily mail, but i prefer union etc etc. talking to my wife's uncle in keighley the other day, he used to report on league for the local papers. an avowed league man, had ended up watching the england france union game a couple of weeks ago. "and that constant rucking at the end of the game, that leaves me cold", whereas there was me feeling england had ground out the victory.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 00:57 (sixteen years ago) link
herman, i think what fuels english union fans is the knowledge that all the other home/euro nations have made their season if they stuff the english. it makes me (as an england supporter) feel like a man utd supporter (which i bloody ain't). but when it got to the last 10 minutes in murrayfield today i had to go to the kitchen to start cooking the kids' steaks. that horrible, hollow feeling.
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:00 (sixteen years ago) link
No fucking chance of england grounding out anything in cricket. I should've learned by now really, yet I put myself through it all the time. The ashes is such a distant memory now. x-post
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:01 (sixteen years ago) link
(Eng 60-7)
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
and xxxxxpost, no posh people play league.
i can't get over uncontested scrums: if you don't contest them why bother locking down? why not just have a tap free kick with the opposition having to be 5 yards?
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:02 (sixteen years ago) link
for fucking 7?????? (xp)
at least we're up to 2 runs an over...
― whatever, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:04 (sixteen years ago) link
67-8
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 01:32 (sixteen years ago) link
Bells got us over 100 at least
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 02:18 (sixteen years ago) link
110 all out. A fucking shambles.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 9 March 2008 02:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't think Union is a class signifier outside of England, hardly.
A kind of relevant article I read yesterday: http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/its-a-crime-how-footy-heroes-go-bad/2008/03/07/1204780065538.html
Also It's pleasing the NRL season starts next week :):):)
― W4LTER, Sunday, 9 March 2008 03:08 (sixteen years ago) link
bump for ^^^ this article.
― W4LTER, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:16 (sixteen years ago) link
League is nothing in Scotland. We like Union
"We" being some border hill farmers and assorted bankers/ brokers/ lawyers in Edinburgh.
I don't think Union is a class signifier outside of England, hardly
Ha ha, right
― Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 10:25 (sixteen years ago) link
Okay, I didn't know this. So Union is a poshoes sport everywhere except Wales?
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:19 (sixteen years ago) link
I don't know about Ireland, but I would have guessed so there too
― Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link
No it's NOT a fucking poshos sport!
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Nor is Union a working class sport.
However folks of all classes play and watch it. I suppose it's predominantly middle-class.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/09/01/wags/p4.jpg
― Noodle Vague, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:38 (sixteen years ago) link
It is in Scotland (xxp) Which is why next-to-nobody plays it or watches it
― Tom D., Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.sportingheritage.co.uk/acatalog/spc416_jason_leonard.jpg
extract from an interview with Jason Leonard :
When did you first begin playing rugby?
The main sport at my school, in Barking, East London, was very much football. Everyone wanted to play for West Ham, the local team. Rugby took off under a new sports teacher who loved the game and it appealed to me immediately. I liked the idea that you could run round for 80 minutes knocking lumps out of each other
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:44 (sixteen years ago) link
I know that Bath considers itself to be posher than Bristol because it's a rugby town and not a football town. Also football games at the Mem = public transport is packed, streets busy with pedestrians; rugby games at the Mem = roads crammed with 4x4s and BMWs.
― aldo, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Look POLO is a posho's game. Rugby Union isn't.
― Dr.C, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Aussies postpone tour of Pakistan http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/7288996.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 11 March 2008 11:49 (sixteen years ago) link
lol awesome stuff there. Vettori on the last ball of the over goes for a single to keep strike, but the ball goes to monty who lets it go through his legs for a 4. 2 balls later Gillespie is bowled and David Lloyd says it was all part of the monty masterplan. NZ 181-9 in reply to England's 342
― Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 14 March 2008 04:15 (sixteen years ago) link
League is nonsense. However, Union might be the best sport played.
... wait isn't this a cricket thread?
― Mr. Goodman, Friday, 14 March 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link
rong.
― W4LTER, Friday, 14 March 2008 04:41 (sixteen years ago) link
anderson's one good test for another 3 years (and 2 back problems)
― whatever, Friday, 14 March 2008 05:38 (sixteen years ago) link
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/counties/somerset/7297935.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:34 (sixteen years ago) link
and Vettori out for a duck. Didn't expect that. 3 wickets or 187 runs to win.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Billy Corgan is at the game!!
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:50 (sixteen years ago) link
David Lloyd says Siamese Dream was a smashing album. lol Roger Daltrey is there too.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:51 (sixteen years ago) link
Sidebottom and Broad are bowling really well. Impressive stuff. I hadn't realised Broad was so tall. He's 6'6 and still growing, so he might end up 6'8. Used to love watching Joel Garner and Curtley Ambrose bowl. They were huge guys.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 21:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Mills out LBW. 270-8
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link
311-9
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 22:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Monty takes the final wicket Sidebottom shows his team mates how to catch the ball.. McCullum out on 85. Series is now 1-1.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 16 March 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Hair is back http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/7303232.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 18 March 2008 16:08 (sixteen years ago) link
NZ collapsing like an English batting order here. Gone from 100-1 to 138-7 Sidebottom with 6 wickets.
― Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 23 March 2008 01:35 (sixteen years ago) link
Strauss makes a century!!!!!!!!!
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 24 March 2008 01:42 (sixteen years ago) link
And now Bell.
― Herman G. Neuname, Monday, 24 March 2008 02:00 (sixteen years ago) link
1 wicket to go at lunch. Sky are showing the england fan from the other test falling while carrying his pint. I dont think i'll ever tire of seeing that. Hope its on youtube.
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:06 (sixteen years ago) link
Here it is ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyc22i1hVbk youtube says its a kiwi. It was amazing that it was actual live footage as it happened. They were focussing on the crowd pointing out all the crazy barmy army fancy dress and they picked up the drunk guy and then he fellover. The whole commentary were pissing themselves.
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:09 (sixteen years ago) link
This was brilliant too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhP8d9U3RXI&NR=1
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:12 (sixteen years ago) link
A win by 121 runs. Southee 77 not out after smashing sixes all round the ground in only 39 balls
― Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 26 March 2008 00:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Shoaib Akhtar given five-year ban http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/pakistan/7323360.stm
― Herman G. Neuname, Tuesday, 1 April 2008 12:32 (sixteen years ago) link
IPL has just kicked off, is this end of cricket as we know it?
― Ed, Friday, 18 April 2008 14:42 (sixteen years ago) link
Holy shit 158 off 73 balls from McCullum!
― Neil S, Friday, 18 April 2008 18:35 (sixteen years ago) link