The Great Gatsby

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I'm afraid you're wrong – they did film it.

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 27 November 2005 11:47 (eighteen years ago) link

I think this and tender is the night are v. good. Not so much 'The Diamond as big as the ritz and other short stories'.

jeffrey (johnson), Sunday, 27 November 2005 15:27 (eighteen years ago) link

that's crazy talk. fitzgerald's short stories are among the most perfect in the genre.

lauren (laurenp), Sunday, 27 November 2005 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

Wow, I still haven't read this. I half suspect I'll go to the grave in this fashion while still recalling obscure Happy Days plot complications. Strange.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 November 2005 17:14 (eighteen years ago) link

What's with all the Huck Finn hate?!?! You people are bananas.

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Sunday, 27 November 2005 18:10 (eighteen years ago) link

I was aware that the last few pages were some kind of tour de force, but I wasn't sure what the force quite was.

What a great formulation, from N.!

the bellefox, Sunday, 27 November 2005 19:04 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm afraid you're wrong – they did film it.

yeah, like three times. what i meant was unfilmable in the sense that it wouldn't make a very good film.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

It's a perfect novel: Its structure, its prose (poetic without being either purple or treacly), and characters. in Jay Gatsby, Fitzgerald practically invented what I call the Ronald Reagan archetype: handsome, dense, surface charm, and irredeemably vulgar.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

What, you're saying that's not my archetype too? I'm insulted.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 27 November 2005 23:55 (eighteen years ago) link

david thomson once said that the jack nicholson of the early '70s should've played gatsby - i can see how that could have worked.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicholson projects too much avidity.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:42 (eighteen years ago) link

What, you're saying that's not my archetype too? I'm insulted.

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Is that you in the middle, Ned?

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:45 (eighteen years ago) link

Hell no, I'm the turkey.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:49 (eighteen years ago) link

That's what I meant!

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Nicholson projects too much avidity

the later jack does, but i think JN c. chinatown could've pulled it off - gatsby needs to have that spark of obsessiveness, which robert redford couldn't really do.

plus now that i've mentioned it i can't imagine anyone but JN not sounding silly saying "old sport."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 November 2005 01:58 (eighteen years ago) link

But Gatsby is also a blank; remember that Nick dismisses him thusly: "...an elegant young roughneck, a year or two over thirty, whose formality of speech just missed being absurd."

Nicholson could never pull this off. His penchant for injecting irony into the most commonplace of utterances would give the game away.

Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Who would've been good? Steve McQueen? Early-60s Paul Newman?

Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 28 November 2005 02:41 (eighteen years ago) link

heh, thomson also said gary cooper would've made a good captain ahab!

has anyone seen the 1949 version with alan ladd?

imdb on the 1926 silent version: "No prints of this film are known to survive. Check your attic."

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 November 2005 07:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Raggett's post was funny.

With respect, Alfred, 'thusly' is a 'ly' too far. I am reminded of the Amises' dentist: 'Open widely'!

For a moment I thought that J.D. was saying not that only JN could pull off Gatsby, but that ... only JtN could!

the bellefox, Monday, 28 November 2005 15:08 (eighteen years ago) link

His penchant for injecting irony into the most commonplace of utterances would give the game away.

They'd have to have harassed him Kubrick-style, making him say the lines so many times he dropped the Nicholson affectations. Even then, I'm not sure he'd have been the best pick. Redford was reasonable, but the main problem was he looked like he belonged with the prestige and money. Gatsby was supposed to be more suspicious.

mike h. (mike h.), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:51 (eighteen years ago) link

JtN would be good as nick carraway.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 28 November 2005 23:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Warren B

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:09 (eighteen years ago) link

?

http://www.3-x.nl/images/front/25873.jpg

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Warren Beatty in that snazzy but sleazy stylee

Baaderonixx weaves a daisy chain for... SATAN!! (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 29 November 2005 10:36 (eighteen years ago) link

J.D.: yes!

With Tim Hopkins as Gatsby?

the bellefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:23 (eighteen years ago) link

No - with TRACER HAND as Gatsby!

the bellefox, Tuesday, 29 November 2005 12:24 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
a great book; I started reading this again last night

I went looking for my copy of tender is the night to run through that another (a sixth? a seventh?) time but I must have given it away again (the sixth time? the seventh time?)

must pick it up again today

I read 'the last tycoon' a while back and it read as you'd expect: a touch bitty and piecemeal, not entire

a dizzylingly great writer

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 15 December 2005 10:15 (eighteen years ago) link

The appearance of the phrase “old sport” has me wanting to start an “A Separate Piece” thread somethin’ terrible. Ties-as-belts, Ackley, shopping in Vermont, etc.

But Gatsby: a classic, a masterwork, etc. I had to read it in high school then again for a college course, but haven’t revisited it since. Will have to correct that.

Something interesting that a college prof pointed out when we were studying Gatsby was the fact that Fitz endlessly employed the word “careless” and its variations to describe Daisy.

Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 15 December 2005 14:00 (eighteen years ago) link

one year passes...
fitzgerald was a shallow poseur
huck finn is grebt, fools

gershy, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 07:49 (sixteen years ago) link

have i said how much i love [i[the great gatsby[/i]? i love it. finished a book of short stories by scott and zelda recently - amazing how scott's writing particularly can feel so luxurious and indulgent while being pretty fucking sharp and concentrated.

lex pretend, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 07:52 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

New movie version by...Baz Luhrmann. Hm.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 18 December 2008 23:20 (fifteen years ago) link

i've really been meaning to reread this. can't imagine it making a good film, though.

J.D., Friday, 19 December 2008 05:25 (fifteen years ago) link

oh goody it'll be a campy genre-bending epic

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Friday, 19 December 2008 06:21 (fifteen years ago) link

I reread it every couple of years and it's different each time, if you know what I mean.

Meat ROFL (suzy), Friday, 19 December 2008 08:43 (fifteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...

obv Hugh Jackman will be Gatz, right? Musical or not?

Dr Morbius, Tuesday, 6 January 2009 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

I couldn't help but picture Robert Downey Jr. in the role when I read it.

SongOfSam, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:56 (fourteen years ago) link

which role?

Mr. Que, Monday, 12 April 2010 19:59 (fourteen years ago) link

Daisy Buchanan.

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 April 2010 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

Gatsby = RDJ

Tom Buchanan = Puddy from Seinfeld

SongOfSam, Monday, 12 April 2010 21:25 (fourteen years ago) link

Read Gatsby in 11th grade, but don't remember if I liked it or not. I actually liked the Robert Redford adaptation of the book.

musicfanatic, Monday, 12 April 2010 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

One of the worst movies ever made --- top ten bad.

Throwing Muses are reuniting for my next orgasm! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 April 2010 22:18 (fourteen years ago) link

two years pass...

or Apple Trailers: http://trailers.apple.com/trailers/wb/thegreatgatsby/

Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Tuesday, 22 May 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

ugh ugh make it go away

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link

Tom Buchanan = Puddy from Seinfeld

that said this would have been genius casting

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link

i had never read this book, but then i read it the other day, p good, glad i got in in time to be outraged @ new vers

lag∞n, Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link

haha

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

way too much COLOR imo

twittering spinster (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:15 (eleven years ago) link

kill it with fire

Would rather see a high-school Gatsby by the guy who directed Brick.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link

There's been a 7-hour stage version that had a couple diff runs in NYC in the last year, in which the actors read every word on an office set.

World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 23 May 2012 00:21 (eleven years ago) link


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