Twin Peaks: Classic or Dud?

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other problem w/ Lost HIghway (which is really just a minor problem) is that Balthazar Getty is kind of a nullity. Bill Pullman is perfectly cast though.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:53 (eight years ago) link

Saw Lost Highway in a theater a few months ago. It's good up until around the identity switch. Most of the stretch with Getty (that road rage scene...) has got to be a nadir of sorts for Lynch. Just does not work. Rebounds near the end, but not enough to save it.

circa1916, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

my opinion on lost highway is a recently revised one, I think when I first saw it back in the day I had the common reaction that it was kinda lynch doing lynch in an unsatisfactory way. Now I really love it. Was it JLG who said that the first 45 minutes comprised one of the greatest films ever?

dat login (wins), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

probably rivette. i can't imagine JLG giving two shits about david lynch. he seldom comments on contemporary films.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

I need to rewatch Lost Highway. I honestly don't think I've seen it since its initial home video release. I have no excuse. And I still haven't seen Straight Story at all. I don't know what I'm doing with my life but it isn't good.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:06 (eight years ago) link

I like the messier stuff after the switch tho, all the rammstein in corridors stuff seems way more necessary on rewatch. xps no way the road rage scene is great!

dat login (wins), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

(that road rage scene...)

yeah this is terrible

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

"you like pornos, kid?"

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:07 (eight years ago) link

i re-watched lost highway a few months ago (on 35mm!) and although yeah it has plenty of problems (no film with marilyn manson involvement can be all good), it's still pretty exhilarating. just the audacity and elegance of its narrative construction.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link

I like the structure, first section, and ending sequence of LH very much, but it's hard not to see it as a dry run for Mulholland Dr.

one way street, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

The way Rammstein is deployed in LH is actually pretty great, yeah. Will grant it that.

The road rage scene felt like it was made by some sub-Tarantino hack.

circa1916, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:13 (eight years ago) link

When the riffs kicked through the theater speakers it was legitimately pretty exhilarating.

circa1916, Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:15 (eight years ago) link

i hate lost highway, love wild at heart and fwwm is one of the best movies ever made.

kurt schwitterz, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:26 (eight years ago) link

"on the air" is where it's at

massaman gai, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

lol "On the Air" best described as a comedy made by people who don't understand comedy

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:41 (eight years ago) link

haha I need to see that, lynch & frost are both good with the lols imo but yeah maybe not in a way that translates to sitcom gold

I'm def a stan/apologist lol, I rate pretty much everything (which feels wrong even to me). I did fall asleep during dune though

dat login (wins), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

i like lynch's anti-humor, probably best seen in "the cowboy and the frenchman"

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link

"On the Air" is not without its merits but being legit funny is not one of them

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:51 (eight years ago) link

i went into On the Air with an enormous amount of sympathy for lynch and an expectation that it would not funny in anything approaching the normal sense of the word.

and i could barely sit through it

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

I remember liking Lost Highway well enough at the time but i was a much bigger fanboy then, and tellingly I've rarely if ever felt like rewatching it, unlike Mulholland Drive which I rank up there with TP and Blue Velvet as his best work ever. Same with the Straight Story.

akm, Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:08 (eight years ago) link

On the Air was pretty dumb.

Hotel Room: Blackout is great though. I saw an uncut version of this introduced by Gifford many many years ago.

akm, Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link

^^

I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:15 (eight years ago) link

yall crazy OTA is amazing and hilarious. the first episode only but damn it is a masterpiece.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

i saw LH in a theater recently... The road rage scene is funny!

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

I think that scene awful. He couldn't have made MD if he hadn't made LH and in most other art forms artists are allowed to fail in one work in order to develop the themes in a subsequent work. Having said that I don't even think LH is a failure - the sense of dread in the first section is singular and powerful and worth the perceived failures.

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link

i don't know why, but i have more affection for L.H. than M.D., maybe because the former was kind of overlooked/condescended to while the latter was immediately embraced as a masterpiece.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

obviously M.D. is much more emotionally accessible in a lot of ways. i've heard L.H. described as "anti-humanist" and that isn't entirely wrong.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

On The Air is some weird shit. It feels more like a bad trip than any other Lynch thing imo.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 April 2016 01:43 (eight years ago) link

Can't remember a road rage scene.

Lynch's humour falls flat for me 70% of the time.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 April 2016 15:14 (eight years ago) link

I've never seen Lynch's humor as particularly "funny". It's more like a dog that's suddenly gained the power of speech and tries to tell a joke. More uncanny and surreal than LOL.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 April 2016 15:17 (eight years ago) link

The problem is I usually find it tedious. I think Inland Empire (my favourite) would be far better without a sense of humour.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 April 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

Funniest Lynch thing for me is maybe the woman giving clues at the start of Fire Walk With Me.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 April 2016 15:28 (eight years ago) link

Funniest Lynch scene is probably the hitman scene in Mulholland Drive. That one had me actually laughing out loud.

silverfish, Friday, 29 April 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

It's good but it feels surprisingly like Coen brothers did it.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 April 2016 17:20 (eight years ago) link

I have the same opinion.

Mr. Hathaway. (jed_), Friday, 29 April 2016 18:28 (eight years ago) link

well "Have you ever done this before?" "I don't know" is a p good amnesia joke in Mulholland Dr.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 29 April 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

eraserhead probably the most consistently funny lynch feature, no?

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link

fremen yelling 'breeeeaaaaak!' at the stone in dune is a good laugh.

wmlynch, Friday, 29 April 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

xp yeah, first half of eraserhead is funny as hell, if bleak. and i remember finding blue velvet pretty droll, but it's been quite a while, so i dunno. single funniest lynch moment is gurney clutching a battle pug as he charges off to meet his maker in dune

surprised by the amount of fwwm love in this thread, but maybe amateurist is right about its having been reevaluated? it's always seemed unfocused to me, though still quite entertaining. and lost highway is awesome. the first half is awesomer, yeah, but the whole thing still rules, and the ending is amazing.

(⌒_⌒)ノ (contenderizer), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

in the context of Twin Peaks, FWWM can seem like it's just retreading stuff from the show (oh, Leland's the killer? U DON'T SAY)

Οὖτις, Friday, 29 April 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

but I think its individual parts work p well, lot of good scenes in it

Οὖτις, Friday, 29 April 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

FWWM is a complete ret-con of the TV show, making the implicit explicit

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

also it just seems pretty consistently inventive in its editing/soundtrack/staging/etc. that scene where laura and leland are accosted by the one-armed man on the road!

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 20:42 (eight years ago) link

I love that scene

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 29 April 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link

Wild At Heart was the first Lynch I saw, FWWM was the second and the one that made a fan out of me.

Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 April 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

I love that scene

― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, April 29, 2016 4:36 PM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

it gets really loud in the theater. i remember being utterly terrified.

wizzz! (amateurist), Friday, 29 April 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

i saw Mulholland Drive in the theater when it came out and was laughing through the first half hour or so. everything was so hilarious, the awkward nonsensical dialog, the scene transitions, that ridiculous swing montage from out of nowhere, etc.

i find Lynch's work to have a cosmic and deep sense of humor that is genuinely exciting and thrilling in a way that makes most humor seem lazy and rote. but i totally see why people don't think he's funny, you have to be willing to get to a very particular mindspace.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 30 April 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

i find myself laughing at the sheer audacity and unexpectedness of some of his stuff

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 30 April 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link

laughing appreciatively, of course

wizzz! (amateurist), Saturday, 30 April 2016 00:35 (eight years ago) link


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