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never mind harrison, santana, hendrix, or hazel, the real key to princes guitar playing is neal schon.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7348372/prince-purple-rain-journey-faithfully-interviews

"How much he loved Neal Schon is crazy," Cain adds. "He studied Neal for so many years, learned his licks and made them his own. You can hear it on ('Purple Rain') for real."

StillAdvance, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link

In fact, didn't Clinton really like Around The World In A Day?

2rrican (Turrican), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:26 (eight years ago) link

Schon connection doesn't totally surprise me given Schon's connection to Larry Graham

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

connections!

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link

dunno if it's common knowledge but the swishy bass line on "Sex in the Summer" (off Emancipation) was the sampled heartbeat of his unborn son. Always makes that sweet song sad for me.

ulysses, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link

Schon is connected to Sheila E. too!

how's life, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:32 (eight years ago) link

Now it can be told, it's not that he can't play lead guitar, of course he can, it's just that he overuses that $&@"?! Journey guitar tone.

Radio Free European Son (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

That's cool that he was a Santana and Schon freak

Was reading the prince chapter in 'Keyboard Magazine Presents: Synth Gods' on Google Books today and they wrote that although synth was as important to Prince as guitar, he had no specific synth or keys heroes the way he had Santana, Hazel and Hendrix for guitar.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

i think there's some undeniable Funkadelic influence in Prince's synth work but he was also using the synth a lot in place of where other funk/R&B acts had a horn section

some dude, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link

Gary Numan seems like the most obvious synth reference point at least early on (he's obviously way beyond Gary as a keyboard player)

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

Yeah I did read him express appreciation for numan in some 80s interview or other

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

i think there's some undeniable Funkadelic influence in Prince's synth work but he was also using the synth a lot in place of where other funk/R&B acts had a horn section

― some dude, Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:47 PM

otm -- JOdy Rosen brought up this point in Slate's podcast yesterday iirc

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

that basically was one of the 2 or 3 core markers of the mpls sound - synths replace brass

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

well brass + saxes

u no what eye mean

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

surprised that geraldo rivera wasn't present when they drilled into prince's vault

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link

...and all they find were some dusty unused purple condoms and some spare parts to a drum machine.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link

and several crates of Appolonia and Nona Gaye long boxes

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

(i wonder if any under-35 ILXORs will get the geraldo rivera joke)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:02 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, Prince rated Numan highly in the early '80s, and the feeling was mutual if eye recall. 'We Take Mystery (To Bed)' has some Prince-like elements 2 it.

Eye'd avoid the Prince covers Numan did in the early '90s, mind. His version 'o' 'U Got The Look' is fucking terrible.

2rrican (Turrican), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link

i think avoiding 1990s gary numan is probably a good idea in general :(

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:05 (eight years ago) link

Numan is really happy playing goth buttrock and I'm glad he's happy but yeah dnw

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

(i wonder if any under-35 ILXORs will get the geraldo rivera joke)

Wouldn't be able to tell you.

Radio Free European Son (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:16 (eight years ago) link

dear god if only i were qualified to answer that question ;_;

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:17 (eight years ago) link

i got it

HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link

i got it

ejemplo (crüt), Thursday, 28 April 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link

I don't think anyone should be shocked by any influence on any act. Neil Young swears by Randy Bachman. Does anyone talk about Randy Bachman? Doesn't really matter. I have no doubt Prince was every bit as into George Harrison as he was (Santana era, I assume) Neil Schon or Joni Mitchell. Or, per that above link, Billy Gibbons or anyone else.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:17 (eight years ago) link

I got it, too, even if I flashed on an old Bloom County strip en route to getting it.

Crazy Eddie & Jesus the Kid (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:31 (eight years ago) link

Wasn't Prince married again after Mayte? Her name was Manuela I think?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:34 (eight years ago) link

apropo of nothing: of prince's minimalist-funk tracks, i really like "new position." wtf is that repeated sound on the one and the two, which sounds a little like a steel drum but more industrial. like someone hitting a kitchen sink basin with a pair of pliers?

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:38 (eight years ago) link

I thought it was sampled steel drum. Maybe it's real steel drum!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

in a fit of desperation I watched that episode of the New Girl that Prince was on. That show is terrible but Prince was funny.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 20:54 (eight years ago) link

I think somebody mentioned above that the steel drum sound was a Fairlight preset? I like to imagine a real steel drum myself, I LOVE that sound

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link

"Does anyone talk about Randy Bachman?"

uh, well...now that you mention it...

scott seward, Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:04 (eight years ago) link

I think somebody mentioned above that the steel drum sound was a Fairlight preset?

that wasn't verified although it very well could be

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link

apparently there's an unreleased version of that song with a full orchestra on it? wtf

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

he had to try a new position!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

A Clare Fischer arrangement no doubt

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

I don't think anyone should be shocked by any influence on any act. Neil Young swears by Randy Bachman. Does anyone talk about Randy Bachman? Doesn't really matter. I have no doubt Prince was every bit as into George Harrison as he was (Santana era, I assume) Neil Schon or Joni Mitchell. Or, per that above link, Billy Gibbons or anyone else.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on the current they told a story about the station manager going to paisley park to hear a new track and he made some offhand crack about grand funk railroad and prince admonished him and said grand funk was great and then played "foot stompin' music" for him

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:30 (eight years ago) link

The demos for Parade that are out there have Clare Fischer all over "I Wonder U" and some other tunes but not on "New Position".

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

this says it was Clare: http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=New_Position

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:00 (eight years ago) link

Sorry - the version of NP on that boot has no Clare F - as opposed to the version on Parade. Prince sings on it as well I think.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link

Fuck - i'm confused. I meant I Wonder U.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

Chemtrails dept:

Sometimes it Snows in April recorded 4/21/1986
Prince rushed to hospital with heart palpitations 4/21/1996
Prince dies 4/21/2016

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

Charade

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

sometimes it snows in April was in 1985

xp

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link

(xpost) That's insane.

Has anyone seen the pic posted today (?) of P buying his last music - I'm assuming - at Electric Fetus in MN? He seems super humble. No entourage. No smiling gawkers standing around taking his pic (not counting the possibly smiling gawker who took said photo).

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:10 (eight years ago) link

Interview with Randy Bachman in which he discusses his personal relationship with three guitar greats: http://www.gibson.com/news-lifestyle/features/en-us/randy-bachman-0616.aspx

My neighbor went to college with Clare Fischer's son and told me sometimes he would see Brent Fischer walking around campus with shades on, looking haggard. When asked what was up he invariably answered that he had just gotten some Prince demos the day before that he had to stay up all night transcribing for his dad.

Radio Free European Son (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Haha 85 of course. Still... 4/21

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

yeah that is crazy

Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link

I don't actually know much about Clare Fischer at all besides his Prince work. It sounds like they had a really smooth detached working relationship.

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link


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