Prince RIP

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Funnily enough, me neither... eye always thought 'The Vault' was just a name he gave 2 a bog-standard tape archive. Eye kinda like the fact it was an actual vault, though... and 4 Prince 2 be the only person 2 know the combination... just goes 2 show how protective he was 'o' his masters, although it really shouldn't come as a surprise 2 anyone given his actions 2wards WB in the mid '90s!

stuffed fish

I thought this was a jokey comment, but no, a bit of googling later and it turns out Entwistle loved him a stuffed fish.

Presumably notorious trout farmer Roger Daltrey went HAM on them in the auction.

ironically he owes warners for the vault. and PP in general. they paid for it (partly, though prob a lot if not most of it, even prince admitted this i think).

Per future earnings, he had no extended family, he has no children, he has an ex wife and a sister, but that's about it. Anyone and anything that earns for Prince in the future is just free money for someone with no real business with or right to said money. Hendrix had no will, and for decades family/lawyers/people were suing and fighting over his legacy. This seems potentially much, much worse.

i wish someone who cared about and shepherded Prince's career/catalog like Alan Leeds had been granted some kind of control over this stuff but that probably didn't happen.

i pray that his lawyer lets alan leeds handle it.

on that R&RHOF performance:

TOM PETTY (shared lead vocals with Jeff Lynne on “While My Guitar Gently Weeps”) Olivia Harrison [George’s widow] asked me if I would come along and induct George. I was told, “Well, Prince is going to play too,” and I was like, “Wow, that’s fantastic.”

Look, we got Prince here willing to play lead guitar. Why should we give him an eight-bar solo? Over a solo that — the Beatles solo, everyone knows it by heart and would be disappointed if you didn’t play that particular solo there. And Prince was a great fan of George’s, and the Beatles in general, but I think he particularly admired George. I think George would have liked it a lot.

I had no sense Prince liked George but whatevs, Tom

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/28/arts/music/prince-guitar-rock-hall-of-fame.html

He did like George... Clinton, that is.

Somebody must have shielded him from the Geoff Emerick book with all the anti-George stuff.

never mind harrison, santana, hendrix, or hazel, the real key to princes guitar playing is neal schon.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7348372/prince-purple-rain-journey-faithfully-interviews

"How much he loved Neal Schon is crazy," Cain adds. "He studied Neal for so many years, learned his licks and made them his own. You can hear it on ('Purple Rain') for real."

In fact, didn't Clinton really like Around The World In A Day?

Schon connection doesn't totally surprise me given Schon's connection to Larry Graham

connections!

dunno if it's common knowledge but the swishy bass line on "Sex in the Summer" (off Emancipation) was the sampled heartbeat of his unborn son. Always makes that sweet song sad for me.

Schon is connected to Sheila E. too!

Now it can be told, it's not that he can't play lead guitar, of course he can, it's just that he overuses that $&@"?! Journey guitar tone.

That's cool that he was a Santana and Schon freak

Was reading the prince chapter in 'Keyboard Magazine Presents: Synth Gods' on Google Books today and they wrote that although synth was as important to Prince as guitar, he had no specific synth or keys heroes the way he had Santana, Hazel and Hendrix for guitar.

i think there's some undeniable Funkadelic influence in Prince's synth work but he was also using the synth a lot in place of where other funk/R&B acts had a horn section

Gary Numan seems like the most obvious synth reference point at least early on (he's obviously way beyond Gary as a keyboard player)

Yeah I did read him express appreciation for numan in some 80s interview or other

i think there's some undeniable Funkadelic influence in Prince's synth work but he was also using the synth a lot in place of where other funk/R&B acts had a horn section

― some dude, Thursday, April 28, 2016 2:47 PM

otm -- JOdy Rosen brought up this point in Slate's podcast yesterday iirc

that basically was one of the 2 or 3 core markers of the mpls sound - synths replace brass

well brass + saxes

u no what eye mean

surprised that geraldo rivera wasn't present when they drilled into prince's vault

...and all they find were some dusty unused purple condoms and some spare parts to a drum machine.

and several crates of Appolonia and Nona Gaye long boxes

(i wonder if any under-35 ILXORs will get the geraldo rivera joke)

Yeah, Prince rated Numan highly in the early '80s, and the feeling was mutual if eye recall. 'We Take Mystery (To Bed)' has some Prince-like elements 2 it.

Eye'd avoid the Prince covers Numan did in the early '90s, mind. His version 'o' 'U Got The Look' is fucking terrible.

i think avoiding 1990s gary numan is probably a good idea in general :(

Numan is really happy playing goth buttrock and I'm glad he's happy but yeah dnw

(i wonder if any under-35 ILXORs will get the geraldo rivera joke)

dear god if only i were qualified to answer that question ;_;

i got it

i got it

I don't think anyone should be shocked by any influence on any act. Neil Young swears by Randy Bachman. Does anyone talk about Randy Bachman? Doesn't really matter. I have no doubt Prince was every bit as into George Harrison as he was (Santana era, I assume) Neil Schon or Joni Mitchell. Or, per that above link, Billy Gibbons or anyone else.

I got it, too, even if I flashed on an old Bloom County strip en route to getting it.

Wasn't Prince married again after Mayte? Her name was Manuela I think?

apropo of nothing: of prince's minimalist-funk tracks, i really like "new position." wtf is that repeated sound on the one and the two, which sounds a little like a steel drum but more industrial. like someone hitting a kitchen sink basin with a pair of pliers?

I thought it was sampled steel drum. Maybe it's real steel drum!

in a fit of desperation I watched that episode of the New Girl that Prince was on. That show is terrible but Prince was funny.

I think somebody mentioned above that the steel drum sound was a Fairlight preset? I like to imagine a real steel drum myself, I LOVE that sound

"Does anyone talk about Randy Bachman?"

uh, well...now that you mention it...

I think somebody mentioned above that the steel drum sound was a Fairlight preset?

that wasn't verified although it very well could be

apparently there's an unreleased version of that song with a full orchestra on it? wtf

he had to try a new position!

A Clare Fischer arrangement no doubt

I don't think anyone should be shocked by any influence on any act. Neil Young swears by Randy Bachman. Does anyone talk about Randy Bachman? Doesn't really matter. I have no doubt Prince was every bit as into George Harrison as he was (Santana era, I assume) Neil Schon or Joni Mitchell. Or, per that above link, Billy Gibbons or anyone else.

― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, April 28, 2016 3:17 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

on the current they told a story about the station manager going to paisley park to hear a new track and he made some offhand crack about grand funk railroad and prince admonished him and said grand funk was great and then played "foot stompin' music" for him

The demos for Parade that are out there have Clare Fischer all over "I Wonder U" and some other tunes but not on "New Position".

this says it was Clare: http://www.princevault.com/index.php?title=New_Position

Sorry - the version of NP on that boot has no Clare F - as opposed to the version on Parade. Prince sings on it as well I think.