This Japanese Sign 'O' The Times Blu-Ray, released in 2014, is Region A, meaning it will play on US players. The next time some money lands in my PayPal account, I'm thinking about buying one.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:05 (eight years ago) link
I remember reading somewhere that whereas a lot of musicians were trying to tweak and push the Linn machine beyond the custom sounds and making it do all kinds of crazy stuff, Prince only used the preset sounds - but did so better than maybe anyone else. I always thought that's why SOTT contains all the sounds of the 80s (to me) but not sure if it's near true.
― niels, Thursday, 28 April 2016 12:58 (eight years ago) link
(story was regarding SOTT specifically)
I still have a copy of the SOTT DVD that was given away with the Observer newspaper in the UK. Prince loved giving stuff away via newspaper.
― Position Position, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:06 (eight years ago) link
nielsPosted: April 28, 2016 at 8:58:17 AMI remember reading somewhere that whereas a lot of musicians were trying to tweak and push the Linn machine beyond the custom sounds and making it do all kinds of crazy stuff, Prince only used the preset sounds - but did so better than maybe anyone else. I always thought that's why SOTT contains all the sounds of the 80s (to me) but not sure if it's near true.
In this spate of reading random old Prince articles I have been seeing, generally, that he was not all that into patch programming and liked to just use presets (on his synths as well as drum boxes) -- he saw no problem with that as it was all about the assemblage or where it fit in the 'painting'. I think that's awesome.
NB I am sure fink and Lisa programmed plenty of their own crazy patches for shit they did in the revolution
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:27 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMRCBdhpBIA
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link
This is kind of neat, too:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofKyPTXt5co
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 April 2016 13:37 (eight years ago) link
Interestingly, in an interview around the release of Rave Un2... Prince says that his old Linn Lm1 was taken out of mothballs for that record after long disuse. He says no other drum machine locks in like the LM1.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:15 (eight years ago) link
Anyway, I am here rn to tell you guys that the 1984 First Avenue Birthday Show is beyond essential. Amazing performances, ideal soundboard sound quality, three unreleased songs, opens with 17 days, fucking get it.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:17 (eight years ago) link
yeah, that was a good sunday.the following saturday evening, big tv, headphones on loud (i had young kids/wife etc who were not interested), and a few glasses of wine.bloody perfect.intend on repeating that experience in the near future.
― mark e, Thursday, 28 April 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah, I forgot about that one, I've probably got it.
― Mark G, Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
I am here rn to tell you guys that the 1984 First Avenue Birthday Show is beyond essentialyeah so good. "noon rendezvous"!
― tylerw, Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link
if there are other purple rain era revolution boots of that quality i would love to pointed at em.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link
Y'all do know that a BIG part of the drums on SOTT was the Fairlight?
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:32 (eight years ago) link
Parade too, right? Lot of odd drums sounds on that one.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
Here's something I finished up after the news. Had started it a month ago as an exercise in Princely drum sounds. https://soundcloud.com/professorjorge/peach-and-black-raw-mix
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link
xpost yeah I think there may be some Fairlight on that, too. Like the steel drums on New Position...
Yeah - lots of Fairlight used in 1986 ! http://www.princevault.com/index.php?search=Fairlight&go=Go
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link
The bank has its hands on the Vault: http://kstp.com/news/prince-received-out-patient-treatment-bank-trustee-drills-princes-vault-open/4119830/
― Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:16 (eight years ago) link
dead link
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:17 (eight years ago) link
Meanwhile, 5 EYEWITNESS NEWS has also been told Bremer Bank, recently appointed trustee of Prince’s estate, hired a St. Paul company to drill through Prince’s personal vault at Paisley Park Tuesday. Sources said the bank had to move quickly to get inside the vault because, as court-appointed trustee, Bremer is legally responsible for safeguarding and handling all of Prince’s assets.
The vault is known to store Prince’s invaluable recordings, of which, dozens have not been released. Prince was the only person who knew the combination, which is the reason Bremer Bank had to hire someone to drill through the lock to retrieve and take inventory of its contents.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link
Even though the direct link didn't work I got to the article via main page of KSTP's website
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:21 (eight years ago) link
I missed the news that Bremer was appointed the special trustee yesterday:
A trust company has been appointed to temporarily oversee Prince's multimillion-dollar estate. Bremer Trust was named special administrator of Prince's estate on Wednesday after an informal telephone conference with some of the musician's possible heirs and a judge. The judge says Bremer Trust now has the authority to manage and supervise Prince's assets and determine his heirs. Bremer will act as special administrator for six months or until a personal representative is appointed. Prince's sister, Tyka Nelson, asked for the appointment of a special administrator, saying she believes her brother didn't have a will and that immediate decisions about his business interests needed to be made. In his nearly 40 years as an entertainer, there's no doubt Prince made millions. His estate is rumored to value at least $300 million.
Attorney Christopher Burns says roughly 70 percent of millionaires don't have a will.
"A lot of them figure they didn't need it, it wasn't their time, maybe a feeling of immortality," Burns said.
Because it doesn't appear Prince set anything aside, Burns says Prince could pay nearly $150 million in state and federal estate taxes.
"Certainly Prince could have had Paisley Park as a museum, or a resource for the community had he had a plan, but it is sad that he seemingly did not put such a plan in place," Burns added.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:23 (eight years ago) link
jesus that is sad. i worry that to pay taxes they'll auction off a bunch of shit that ought to be in a museum.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link
Yep.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:35 (eight years ago) link
this is possibly worst case scenario in action here jesus
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link
what's esp. sad is that given his philanthropic bent, prince could have easily put many of his assets in a charitable trust. in such a case a lot of the money going to his estate would end up helping people. i suspect that some kind of trust will be set up, but its assets will be much diminished in the course of determining how the estate will be divided up.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
maybe a melvin dummar will come out of the woodwork and allege that prince, after driving his purple motorcycle off a state highway in rural minnesota, made a secret will naming them as the caretaker of the Vault.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:40 (eight years ago) link
xpost: this. It's why I was so startled at the absence of a will.
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
given his philanthropic bent
Or his litigious bent!
― how's life, Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:43 (eight years ago) link
btw i hadn't realized that he and mayte had two children who died shortly after birth. speaking of sad. :(
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
i worry that to pay taxes they'll auction off a bunch of shit that ought to be in a museum.
This happened to John Entwistle's estate. The situation was different -- he had a will -- but UK taxes, combined with his massive debt, necessitated auctioning his house and his possessions (massive collection of basses and guitars, medieval armor, stuffed fish).
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
that sort of thing happens all the time, sadly.
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link
some vegas millionaire will end up putting the motorcycle from the cover of purple rain in the foyer of their casino or something :(
― wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
me too.surely his lawyer crew must have said something in the last couple of years.i cannot imagine he had not been urged to crack on with getting something sorted.maybe, just maybe, he thought : "f*ck it, you can sort it all out, i'm too busy to think about all that stuff, i got some tracks to make".
(nb : as a old man/parent sideline - sort your will out people, we avoided doing ours for years, but bloody hell, it was a good job we did eventually get it sorted when we did.)
― mark e, Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
xpost
the second child they lost was a miscarriage
prince's longtime set designer heather mcelhatton was interviewed on mpr and she said something interesting, that prince before the death of his son and prince after the death of his son were like night and day. He apparently became super attentive in the aftermath to knowing the names of everyone who worked for him and knowing things about their lives, asking them questions about themselves etc.
i guess we will never know what kind of changes that experience produced in him. certainly it must point the way to the JW conversion?
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 28 April 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
that shit is totally traumatic, of course he was changed by it
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
my wife said she hopes there is a hologram of Prince in the vault doing the Batdance
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:15 (eight years ago) link
Mayte's statement the day he died ("he's with our son now") was just heartbreaking.
― some dude, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:24 (eight years ago) link
As others have said, eye'm really surprised that Prince never had a will, given how on the button he seemed in terms 'o' his business affairs. Eye have 2 say, there's a lot that's come out over the last few days that has stunned and surprised me. In a way, it often feels like at times there's this strange "big reveal" going on which eye'm unsure that eye and others should be privy 2. There's a whole lot 'o' shit flying out 'o' the woodwork. U Tube suddenly being flooded with videos is one thing, but eye can't help but think that a lot 'o' tongues have suddenly become loose in the immediate aftermath 'o' Prince's death. Add 2 this everything being picked over 2 an insane degree and it's all a bit grim. Eye hope all 'o' this gets sorted out as quickly and painlessly as possible. Until then, it's hard 2 imagine Prince will ever rest in peace.
― 2rrican (Turrican), Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
I think we all understand what you're going for here Turrican, but bear in mind it is kinda unreadable.
― how's life, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:32 (eight years ago) link
Maybe the Minecraft guy or some richer than god cat like that will just buy everything.
I had no idea the vault was an actual vault.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:33 (eight years ago) link
with a combination that only Prince knew! that blows my mind.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
im kinda ambivalent about all the youtube videos. its great for people to see. but its also footage that might secure his future earnings. who knows how much that would be these days, but still... im still shocked and slightly disbelieving that he didnt write a will or any sort of contingency plan.
i wonder what happens to the vault now they have drilled into it. does it all stay there? does it go somewhere else? are they just logging whats there? (selfishly would like to see an actual photo of it).
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
I mean I assumed he had old tape reels appropriately stored away somewhere but that's next level
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― Οὖτις, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
im sure i read that he would quite often just dub over old tracks, that he wasnt that precious about them (though the extent to which he stored them all makes me think he must have cared about them). maybe a lot of classic outtakes sound diff to how we know them.
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
xxx-post:
Funnily enough, me neither... eye always thought 'The Vault' was just a name he gave 2 a bog-standard tape archive. Eye kinda like the fact it was an actual vault, though... and 4 Prince 2 be the only person 2 know the combination... just goes 2 show how protective he was 'o' his masters, although it really shouldn't come as a surprise 2 anyone given his actions 2wards WB in the mid '90s!
― 2rrican (Turrican), Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
stuffed fish
I thought this was a jokey comment, but no, a bit of googling later and it turns out Entwistle loved him a stuffed fish.
Presumably notorious trout farmer Roger Daltrey went HAM on them in the auction.
― Position Position, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:47 (eight years ago) link
ironically he owes warners for the vault. and PP in general. they paid for it (partly, though prob a lot if not most of it, even prince admitted this i think).
― StillAdvance, Thursday, 28 April 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link
Per future earnings, he had no extended family, he has no children, he has an ex wife and a sister, but that's about it. Anyone and anything that earns for Prince in the future is just free money for someone with no real business with or right to said money. Hendrix had no will, and for decades family/lawyers/people were suing and fighting over his legacy. This seems potentially much, much worse.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 28 April 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link