Prince RIP

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that van jones video made me cry when I watched it

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:06 (eight years ago) link

same here, had to turn it off since i'm at work

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:07 (eight years ago) link

Oh man, I should not have clicked on that YouTube link...

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:14 (eight years ago) link

Wendy, Lisa, Mark, Fink and Bobby just posted a group video saying they're gonna do a tour as the revolution

It was so cute

I love those ppl so much

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

Susan Rogers on mixing board IMO

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:16 (eight years ago) link

more details:

The probate court has not identified an executor, and estimates of Prince’s net worth and of the value of his estate have varied widely. Forbes magazine last estimated his earnings in 2005, when it said that he made $49.7 million before taxes that year.

But Prince’s worth could be much greater now, particularly since two years ago he took control of his valuable publishing catalog — the copyrights for songwriting — and negotiated a favorable new deal with Warner Bros., his former record company. Since his death, Prince has sold at least 650,000 albums and 2.8 million tracks in the United States, according to Nielsen.

Beyond his music, Prince, who was born Prince Rogers Nelson, owned extensive property in the Minneapolis area. Its value is unclear, but Paisley Park, his studio complex in the suburb of Chanhassen, Minn., has been assessed at over $7 million, according to Carver County public records.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:26 (eight years ago) link

He did not come 2 fuck around!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

Wendy, Lisa, Mark, Fink and Bobby just posted a group video saying they're gonna do a tour as the revolution

love all these people but how are they gonna deal with the gigantic hole in the middle of those songs...? maybe they can get D'Angelo onboard.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:36 (eight years ago) link

Julian Lennon

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

George Clinton

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link

i listened to "Kevin Smith Talks About Prince" last night. saw it way back in the day but forgot all about it and wanted to revisit it. good god, it makes Kevin Smith out to sound like a complete jerk. he's basically just talking shit about Prince behind his back, making fun of how small he is, taking the job (Prince hired him to make a documentary on an album) not all seriously, complaining the whole time that Prince isn't baby-stepping him through it, and then at the very end of it all getting all pissed off that when he was leaving Prince didn't STOP RECORDING MUSIC to say goodbye to Kevin Smith.

seriously, Kevin Smith is a jackass.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:46 (eight years ago) link

would be cool if Kevin Smith had died instead of Prince imo

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

maybe it'll be like that scene in "true stories" where each audience members takes one or two lines of each song?

xpost

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

y'all just jealous of k smith's fashion sense, prince had nothing on this mutha

http://www.contactmusic.com/pics/la/kevin_smith_170608/kevin_smith_5152264.jpg

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:50 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/26/arts/music/prince-death-album-sales-charts.html

damn. i hope an executor can be appointed and all these $$ can go in a trust for charity or something...

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:54 (eight years ago) link

I thought he didn't seem dickish at all. And neither did Prince. People are going to react to working with Prince differently. I don't think he was pissed that Prince didn't stop recording music - he was pissed that he did a bunch of work for free and flew his family out for the holiday and that Prince didn't seem grateful or appreciative that he put in the effort. I think it was a dick way to end the story I guess - as opposed to something along the lines of "s'all good bc I wouldn't have traded the experience for anything" which would have been most people's reactions.

Honestly when I saw the length of the video I thought there was no way I was gonna make it to the 5 minute mark, but it's a pretty thoroughly interesting story and he does a great job telling it.

billstevejim, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link

D'Angelo doing a tribute on Fallon tonight apparently

sam jax sax jam (Jordan), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

I don't think he was pissed that Prince didn't stop recording music

he says he was actually in the car ready to leave without saying goodbye. then his wife said something about saying bye to Prince and he changes his mind, decides to say goodbye before he leaves. by the time he is back at Paisley Park, Prince is recording music. to me that sounds like he's upset Prince didn't drop what he was doing on a dime to thank him that moment.

he was pissed that he did a bunch of work for free

then he shouldn't be an idiot that says he will do a bunch of work without a signed contract or some legal framework. he had a crew and camera with film stock working for like a week. this is basic business stuff, it just makes Smith sound like an amateur.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link

astonished to discover that Diamonds And Pearls was his biggest album in the UK by some distance. triple platinum!

piscesx, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:01 (eight years ago) link

every studio album b/w Lovesexy and Come hit #1!

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link

that's p weird given that's where the wheels started to come off

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:06 (eight years ago) link

the longer you're a star, the better the masses like you, sometimes

also it's the UK, Chuck Berry had a #1 with "My Ding-a-Ling"

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:09 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, the guy was huge 4 longer than people seem 2 think, which is why when eye read comments about Prince being an "'80s phenomenon", eye find myself scratching my head.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

the longer you're a star, the better the masses like you, sometimes

also it's the UK, Chuck Berry had a #1 with "My Ding-a-Ling"

― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius),

in Amerikay too

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

oh? the shame

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link

It's often 4gotten 2 that Prince won Best International Male at the 1996 Brit Awards - yes, at the height 'o' Britpop at the same ceremony that Jarvis Cocker wiggled his arse at Michael Jackson. He also per4med the title track 'o' Emancipation at the 1997 awards, 2. Eye don't remember him being as visible after that, though... not until his newspaper giveaways, at least... but he was still a big deal in the UK in 1994 thru 1997.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:19 (eight years ago) link

It's my impression that Prince was a huge deal esp in NW Europe from mid 80s onwards. Holland, Belgium, Sweden etc.

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:22 (eight years ago) link

was WB not in charge over there or something?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:23 (eight years ago) link

just in terms of marketing, his post-symbol album stuff was not really well supported in the US

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I remember the first time i heard "My Ding-a-ling" was on the American chart rundown on RLuxembourg (Bob Stewart, probably) and I had no idea who it was: I thought it was Ernie off the Muppets.

xpost by plenty, nm.

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:24 (eight years ago) link

the claims of intense opiate dependency and over the top stage fright are blowing my mind.. i dont know how to process them.

kurt schwitterz, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:28 (eight years ago) link

both of those are pretty commonly shared by millions of people maybe process it by saying oh hey Prince got butterflies in his stomach like anyone else

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link

on the shyness tip there is his very first US TV interview, from American Bandstand 1979:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh6_ey0T62Q

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:44 (eight years ago) link

Someone on ILX years ago was kind enough to burn me CDs of at the time all his 12"s to date.

I think that was me! 💪

Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

i think that's the hard part to process tho. prince seemingly wasn't like anyone else in any way

dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

No, WB was still in charge 'o' Prince in the UK when he was with the label. He legendarily refused 2 promote Chaos and Disorder but it still went Top 20 in the UK and 'Dinner With Delores' was a Top 40 hit. Eye remember the video 4 'Dinner With Delores' getting a lot 'o' play on the music channels at the time. The guy was still selling records even at that time.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link

yah no doy people suffer from stage fright and opiate dependency except this person was always running around dancing like a crazy man and on stage 10 hours a night.

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:03 (eight years ago) link

interesting about the stage fright. Olivier devloped it at *60* years old.

piscesx, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:18 (eight years ago) link

I wonder about the possibility of coke. I never thought he was as clean living as he claimed to be, but a habit would really surprise me.

Iago Galdston, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:26 (eight years ago) link

there was a book published around 2002/2003 that I reviewed for Blender but do not have any more…at the time, it seemed to me that it was by far the definitive, best researched piece of work on him, plenty of interviews with principals…I seem to recall that the author said that the no drugs thing was successful P.R. = untrue. He mentioned other incidents beyond the ecstasy mishap that scuppered the Black Album, but I can't remember specifics. To be sure, cocaine would be commonplace at recording studios in the 1970s-80s, and would certainly go some way towards stimulating his work rate therein. god knows it seems like he would really go for that shit.

veronica moser, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 00:38 (eight years ago) link

Idk what to make of the drug allegations. He burned so many bridges over the years you'd think someone would've spilled the beans before now. Like i would've expected there to be more rumors at least.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 01:07 (eight years ago) link

The (unreleased for now) song "Dream Factory" is a jab at St. Paul Peterson, who quit as lead singer in The Family in order to try living the dream in LA and ending up - allegedly - with a nasty coke habit. Prince never seemed to mention hard drug use except as an evil so I highly doubt the man was a junky. Time will tell, right?

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link

seems like a pill guy to me. i doubt he ever used coke regularly. speed though? yeah

flappy bird, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 01:40 (eight years ago) link

Looks like the existence of illegitimate children/heirs has been raised

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link

just in terms of marketing, his post-symbol album stuff was not really well supported in the US

― Οὖτις, Tuesday, April 26, 2016 6:24 PM (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

that's prince's own fault, really, since it wasn't until the mid-2000s that he settle into a long-term deal w/ a major label. before that he switched distributors each record and often didn't really cooperate with whatever marketing plan the distributing label cooked up. so some of those releases were practically invisible. i remember going into record stores, seeing a new prince album, and thinking, "wait, this exists? when did this happen?"

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 02:13 (eight years ago) link

i should clarify -- after he broke w/ warners, he spent about a decade making one-off deals with distributors, releasing stuff in multiple configurations via web, phone, retail, etc. (confusing the marketplace)-- turns out the major-label strategy of putting a lot of marketing energy into one major release every two or three years isn't so dumb.

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 02:14 (eight years ago) link

pop life another song demonizing coke

kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link

i am prince's son

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link

going to sit in the vault listening to music for the rest of my life and not share any of it

μpright mammal (mh), Wednesday, 27 April 2016 02:46 (eight years ago) link


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