An ILX roundtable discussion of Beyonce's Lemonade for people who don't feel like listening to it right now.

There is definitely a feeling for me that I can't even tell what I think about Formation as a song, because it's an event more than a song. It may be a song that 10-20 years from now I look back on as innovative, but right now it feels lost in the noise.

these pictures are so great!

https://www.flickr.com/photos/alcue/sets/72157649121163541/page1/

h/t the raggett.

http://sonicfield.org/2016/01/pauline-oliveros-on-the-difference-between-hearing-and-listening/

this vegetarian cookbook i have has a pretty good recipe for mint lemonade. the cookbook lady tends to favor blander recipes than i would like, it's taken me a few years to realize this. but a lot of the non-traditional ingredient combos are a good foundation, i say foundation, because i'm not vegetarian, but i will take her acorn squash kale thing and add chicken. But the lemonade recipe doesn't suffer from her "over-subtlety"

for a cocktail, it would probably be great with vodka. You can pretty much add vodka to anything.

Those pictures are amazing.

last great siouxsie album? a controversial statement, but it could very well be.

No way, Scott. You're way off. Tinderbox and Peepshow are easily just as good as Hyæna. And Through the Looking Glass is at least good fun.

Oh to be Steve Slutzah in 1978.

https://www.simplemarketingnow.com/blog/social-flooring-index-blog/bid/146101/Tile-Industry-Forum-Selling-Tile-Online-Steve-Slutzah-Westside-Tile

https://info.simplemarketingnow.com/hs-fs/hub/103148/file-28048575-pdf/docs/businesstimes-dec-2012.pdf

does it for the love of tile. we should all be more like Slutz.

Same mustache all these years!

Now the Lefsetz of the tile industry, calling them like he sees them.

I could get into tile. I think it's probably pretty underappreciated by music nerd hipsters like us. But could you imagine being on the cutting edge of tile design? Could be a good gig with room to grow.

"I have managed over 100 stores from New York to California. Getting tired of being told I made too much money, I opened Westside Tile and Stone in 2005."

Still got that Slutzah sass. I bet the hospitality suite at national tile shows is a place to be.

WAIT, did jack white produce the whole Lemonade album??? i had no idea. and he SINGS on it? ewwwwwwww...............

also, does Beyonce have the worst rock tastes on earth??? was glancing at some rolling stone thing that the raggett posted on FB and beyonce's rock connections a long list of stuff to avoid like the plague: coldplay, eddie vedder, animal collective, jack white.....yuuuuuuuuuuuuuuk.

now i really never want to hear this album...

Jack White is only on the one song (and it's good -- sounds like Kelis).

"And Through the Looking Glass is at least good fun."

this seriously might be the only rock covers album that i love.

new rule: every new album can only have 1 article written about it. doesn't matter if it's by Lefsetz.

i feel like we alternate b/w reminiscing affectionately about monoculture and cursing it for still existing.

y'all, here's the real secret ingredient for some dope lemonade: lavender.

THANK YOU, Buzzfeed...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/emofly/amazing-ways-to-spike-lemonade#.jiEzApR2o

yeah, okay, this:

14. Lavender-Thyme Lemonade (Add Gin)

Salt! I will live and die by salty lemonade.

do you guys have any tips on getting information?

so there's this kid -- maybe 10 or 11? -- who has been setting up a lemonade stand directly in front of our house regularly, and it kind of irks me. shouldn't she be doing it in front of her own house? what if my kid wanted to have a lemonade stand? that would be awkward. it's kind of a "hot" corner in the neighborhood, so she's totally cleaning up. should i demand a cut of her earnings?

I'm surprised by this. I don't think I've ever seen a neighbourhood lemonade stand. My sister and I tried to set one up when we were kids because we saw them in comics and cartoons. We sold absolutely nothing (and, no, we weren't selling the salty stuff). I figured it was because lemonade can be bought or made so cheaply and have always looked back on this as my first real lesson in economics. But apparently, more enterprising children are actually succeeding with this model these days??
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I've seen small lemonade stands in my current neighborhood. Never ever saw anyone trying to run one when I was growing up.

i feel like they only exist in upper-middle class neighborhoods as a quaint attempt to teach kids about the value of hard work that they will not have to do irl.

the true lil hustlers are out selling sealed m&ms for fictional sports teams.

We are pretty much lower-to-middle middle class.

i love how the temptation to listen to that Beyonce/Jack White song is remedied by the title: DON'T HURT YOURSELF.

STILL TEMPTED THOUGH. in a masochistic way....

just do it, scott. it's pretty good!

(totally over-generalized and projected my own class anxieties onto the lemonade stand thing; been doing that SO MUCH lately.)

i didn't even know that janet put out an album last year. that is so sad! black rock pioneer janet jackson! sorry, JJ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_t0ffY3JvE

culture shock upon moving to canada from Scotland: lemonade here is not carbonated

I had no idea a half lemonade/half iced tea was called an Arnold Palmer until this year. Honest Tea makes that and it's really, really good

Just picked some up to have with lunch, inspired by this thread.

Lemonade is carbonated in the UK? So every lemonade is basically lemony Sprite?

scott, the Janet album is excellent.

i wanna hear it. i love janet.

is everyone's favorite "rock" song by a huge non-rock pop star "black cat"?

i'd like a show of hands.

michael had some ragers obviously.

Is Prince non-rock?

I mean, I consider him rock but people seemed to think I was crazy when I argued that before.

Is this shandy thing any good? What beer would you use for that? A citrus-y wheat beer? A mild lager?

is everyone's favorite "rock" song by a huge non-rock pop star "black cat"?

"Black Cat" is up there, but mine is probably something by Pink. Her third album was mostly co-written by the main dude from Rancid.

Oh man, Pink's rock stuff really rubs me the wrong way.

"So What" = most grating song of that year

Try This was pink's best album don't @ me

^^^ x 1000

prince made way too much rock to be called a non-rocker. he was definitely a rock star. and a pop star. and the king of r&b.

i always had a soft spot for the rocking tracks on pop records. the more Slash-like guitar solos the better. cuz i'm a rock fan....

what's the most rock madonna song?

i might like "free your mind" as much as "black cat".

Reminds me of my sadly unloved When Soft Rockers Rock Out thread.

i always had a soft spot for the rocking tracks on pop records. the more Slash-like guitar solos the better. cuz i'm a rock fan....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqisMsT70TI