TASTES LIKE CHICKEN
― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:35 (seven years ago) link
I feel like the comics he's best known for are mostly just origin retellings or by-the-numbers plots that drop in the most well-known allies/villains with the "this is character X who acts in this way and progresses the plot by doing what they always do, in a way that ties back to the main antagonist"
which is, to be fair, a lot of non-Loeb comics but it really highlights how quickly he goes off the rails when he doesn't retell stories
― μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:37 (seven years ago) link
Old Lunch otm
I will reiterate the props I've formerly given to Loeb for Ultimate X, which was good (with beautiful Art Adams art) and which redeemed like .00001% of the soul he tarnished so thoroughly by writing Ultimatum.
― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link
(It was more than a little jarring to see Loeb briefly on the rails and realize that he can actually write competently if he wants to. But I guess trying is hard or something.)
― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
turns out I've been Loeb-free for 25 years (had seen Teen Wolf previously)
http://goodcomics.comicbookresources.com/2010/05/11/comics-you-should-own-flashback-challengers-of-the-unknown-1-8/
those Baker and Hempel covers tho
― glandular lansbury (sic), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 15:58 (seven years ago) link
Never forget that Loeb wrote Commando. Yes, the Schwarzenegger movie.
― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 16:39 (seven years ago) link
the musculature and body poses of both cap and falcon is absolutely kraken me up herehttp://i.cdn.turner.com/tntla/images/portal/10108/37298/75244/2412122.jpg
― ulysses, Friday, 29 April 2016 19:03 (seven years ago) link
like how deep is the spandex into the creases of those guys quads
Good ol' Bart Sears. I remember when he was the 'realistic' alternative in a sea of Liefeld-a-likes.
I wonder what caused Sam's muscles to start melting.
― Your Ass Is Grass And I Will Mow It With My Face (Old Lunch), Friday, 29 April 2016 21:56 (seven years ago) link
Justice League Europe was one of the first superhero comics I ever bought, so I'll always have time for Bart Sears, and his steroidal duck faces.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 29 April 2016 23:18 (seven years ago) link
This guy is like the Todd Van Der Werff of awful comics writing:
http://www.vulture.com/2016/04/captain-america-takedown-apology.html#
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:25 (seven years ago) link
here's a pair of pages from Marvel's Planned Parenthood promotional comic from 1976, "The Amazing Spider Man vs The Prodigy".Different times.http://i.imgur.com/4XVl0mg.png
― ulysses, Friday, 13 May 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
I just got a vivid image of Spidey swinging into a music venue and pulling the plug on a mind control device just before the Prodigy launched into their new hit single, 'Knock My Bitch Up'.
― Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:07 (seven years ago) link
I scanned across that image for "twisted firestarter", didn't find it, closed tab
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:09 (seven years ago) link
spidey discovers the contemporary pro life conservative agendahttp://i.imgur.com/IL7Moz0.png
― ulysses, Friday, 13 May 2016 15:15 (seven years ago) link
Just read Millar's Civil War for the first time - the digital version was on sale. What an incredible piece of garbage! I guess I shouldn't have been surprised. But still -- baffled why anyone would choose to film it -- the story just turns all your faves into gigantic murdering arseholes. (I assume the movie is much better.)
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 13 May 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link
clicked through just long enough to check it was Abraham Riesman
― glandular lansbury (sic), Friday, 13 May 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link
tbf, he's an even worse television writer
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, May 13, 2016 4:45 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
That's Millar's shtick all over, isn't it. Everyone's either a psychotic arsehole or a victim of needless cruelty.
The film is nothing like that, thankfully.
― Pheeel, Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:22 (seven years ago) link
to be fair to millar, sometimes they're a psychotic arsehole AND a victim of needless cruelty
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:13 (seven years ago) link
I think my perspective on Civil War is salvaged somewhat by having read the entire crossover, of which Millar's contribution was just a small piece.
― Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Sunday, 15 May 2016 17:28 (seven years ago) link
It's a solid concept, and the art is pretty decent at humanising Millar's childish dialogue, but so much of it - Robot Thor killing Goliath, for example, is proper "what were they fucking thinking?!?" without the saving grace of being at least interestingly batshit.
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 15 May 2016 19:29 (seven years ago) link
ugh, I just remembered speedball's s&m makeover :(
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
that was actually the character Voldo from the SoulCalibur video game series
― μpright mammal (mh), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:16 (seven years ago) link
lol
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 May 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
It's kinda weird that they chose Millar to write the central book in a huge crossover, given that his contributions to the Marvel Universe proper at that point consisted of his Marvel Knights Spider-Man book and a brief run on Wolverine.
― Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link
Ostrander had written nothing for DC before Legends, and Byrne had drawn one issue of a Batman miniseries in 1980. Mantlo had written nothing for DC, Sears had drawn nothing for DC, and McFarlane had done a few months on Infinity Inc before Invasion!. It works fine if the people are any good at what they do.
As further illustration of this principle, Brad Meltzer had written one six-month run on Green Arrow before Identity Crisis.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Sunday, 15 May 2016 22:51 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, but there's no accounting for the stuff those weirdos at DC do.
― Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 May 2016 01:57 (seven years ago) link
Old Lunch sums up what I was thinking, succinctly
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 02:10 (seven years ago) link
This is such a fugly cover. Luke Cage looks like Rick Ross and WTF is up with Iron Fist's eye.
http://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Power-Man-and-Iron-Fist-Cover.jpg
― earlnash, Monday, 16 May 2016 05:02 (seven years ago) link
0_o
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 May 2016 08:18 (seven years ago) link
I like it! Luke has a weird forehead tumour tho
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 May 2016 08:42 (seven years ago) link
I like it too. There's some cartoonish exaggeration, but the artist clearly knows what he'd doing, it's not like the exaggeration comes from Liefeldian ineptitude. IMO it's cool that in recent years Marvel has allowed more cartoonish/non-realistic art styles to be used with their characters instead of just sticking to a realistic house style.
― Tuomas, Monday, 16 May 2016 10:35 (seven years ago) link
OTM, I was just thinking the same yesterday. Except when the artist in question mixes a cartoonish/non-realistic art style with Liefeldian ineptitude and has been effing ubiquitous for the past decade (*coughhumbertoramoscough*).
― Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:33 (seven years ago) link
sometimes I love Ramos, sometimes I think he is the worst thing in the world
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:40 (seven years ago) link
I think the thing of his I enjoyed most was DV8
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2016 15:41 (seven years ago) link
Ramos and Chris Bachalo are both kind of indistinguishably annoying to read - both dreadful at panel layouts, and everyone has a pointy head
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 May 2016 16:17 (seven years ago) link
I will not allow bad things to be said about Chris Bachalo!
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:43 (seven years ago) link
Bachalo's layouts are sometimes incoherent, though
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:50 (seven years ago) link
bachalo is a terrible storyteller but i've always liked his style
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:55 (seven years ago) link
hmm ok you guys get a pass for this reasonable criticism
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:56 (seven years ago) link
Yes, agree 100%. I've always loved Bachalo's art but he couldn't storytell his way out of a potato sack.
― Peanut Duck (Old Lunch), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link
it's nice in the potato sack
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link
now we've put that to rest i'd like to say that I really like humberto ramos and i've never had a problem with his layouts
that power man and iron fist cover isn't ramos tho is it? looks more like paul pope to me but i don't think it's him either
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:36 (seven years ago) link
Sanford Greene, apparently.
http://marvel.com/comics/issue/57948/power_man_and_iron_fist_2016_1
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 16 May 2016 20:42 (seven years ago) link
ah glad someone else thought it looked like Paul Pope (albeit kinda shittier and uglier than he generally is)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 16 May 2016 20:48 (seven years ago) link
looking up sanford greene just led me to the news that darwyn cooke has died at 53. fuck :(
― (main prostitute from Game Of Thrones) (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 16 May 2016 20:51 (seven years ago) link
Yeah, I like Bachalo too, although much prefer his old Shade style. Felt more human. Right now I can't imagine him drawing a character like Kathy, say, who feels like they could exist as a real person. Maybe he should stick to Giffen-style nine and six panels or something.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 May 2016 20:52 (seven years ago) link
(I meant Lenny not Kathy)
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 16 May 2016 20:53 (seven years ago) link