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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3557015/Former-Prince-engineer-wants-vault-music-released.html

"I think that it would be nice for historians and fans and scholars if someone went through that material," said Rogers, who worked as Prince's sound engineer from 1983-1987.

"I'd like to see the music put in the hands of the people who knew him best artistically and that would be the musicians who worked with him through different eras."

Rogers suggested that musicians with whom he worked in the 1980s and 1990s be allowed to finish unreleased songs in the style that they worked back then. "I think that would be lovely," she said.

Regardless of whether Prince wanted his music to see the light of day, Rogers believes there should be a debate.

"Maybe the artist is not thinking clearly about his legacy; there's a moral issue there and it's something we should be talking about."

It was Rogers who started the vault, collecting his tapes and starting to catalog them while Prince was working on "Purple Rain."

StillAdvance, Monday, 25 April 2016 14:40 (eight years ago) link

Susan Rogers is fucking cool

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Monday, 25 April 2016 14:57 (eight years ago) link

deejay friend of mine posted on FB about seeing a "secret" show in canada in 2011 in a club with about 150 capacity. anyone who pointed a camera/phone at the stage was immediately escorted out of the club. all female band + maceo parker doing nothing but p-funk and ohio players for two hours. !!!.

scott seward, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:00 (eight years ago) link

I was lucky enough to see him play Roseland on the Lovesexy tour. Can't remember how I found out but I rushed over after the show at the Garden to try to get in. I was front and center up against the stage and he played from like 1 to 4 or so. I feel like at the end he invited audience members up one by one to take over on each instrument and then he split but maybe I'm dreaming that.

Iago Galdston, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:41 (eight years ago) link

listening to stare on spotify for the first time, it just reminds me how rote so much of his recent material was. you can almost predict how its going to go - unnecessary reference to some of his older songs, slick production, 70s funk, auto pilot jazzy horns, some clunky lyrics which try to be both nostalgic and modern (do i want to hear prince talking about going HAM?). think i will avoid that second hit and run album after all. i think i saw him with amy winehouse at an indigo club aftershow when he did his mammoth run at the O2, but im starting to think i imagined it (i cant be bothered to google it).

StillAdvance, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link

i like 'stare', the horn chart is great! it's just a vamp turned into a song really but i don't care

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 25 April 2016 15:54 (eight years ago) link

sounds like just another day at the NPG office to me :|

StillAdvance, Monday, 25 April 2016 15:59 (eight years ago) link

I'm starting to think that the most annoying thing about YouTube being (largely) Prince-free is that the site keeps suggesting I watch Adam Levine cover "Purple Rain."

rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Monday, 25 April 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link

it def wasnt prince free at the weekend. there seemed to be hundreds of stuff freshly uploaded.

StillAdvance, Monday, 25 April 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link

He's obviously just happy to use prince to attack the monarchy but I did not expect Morrissey to pay tribute quite so fiercely!

http://true-to-you.net/morrissey_news_160424_01

― StillAdvance, Sunday, April 24, 2016 5:04 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Some of his prose is as wretched as ever, but the phrase "somehow the life of his music is just beginning"... that's nice.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Monday, 25 April 2016 18:40 (eight years ago) link

Morrissey's argument is the same one I had to make to a coworker who was upset that Prince "stole" Friday's Star Tribune top headline from the Queen.

Ys Man a.k.a. Have One on G (geoffreyess), Monday, 25 April 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

if you guys don't like "stare" you should try "screwdriver" on for size :/

rockpalast '82 (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 25 April 2016 19:48 (eight years ago) link

WFMU show today at 11am, Joe McGasko's surface noise, is the first radio sequence re: his passing that has not bored me (Sirius' Groove tribute channel is very repetitive)… heard "can't stop this feeling I got" for the first time since 1990 —completely forgot how it went…

https://wfmu.org/playlists/shows/66190

veronica moser, Monday, 25 April 2016 20:10 (eight years ago) link

I happened to be listening in this morning and that really was a good hour. First time I'd heard "Sometimes It Snows in April" in many, many years.

kills 1.8 percent of household germs (WilliamC), Monday, 25 April 2016 20:14 (eight years ago) link

Eye'm seeing plenty 'o' press reports about how Prince had been working 4 an insane amount 'o' hours be4 he passed away. The guy allegedly hadn't slept 4 over 100 hours. Eye don't no how much truth is in it, though.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Monday, 25 April 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link

that morrissey thing is the only time in years i've felt like saying "yeah, morrissey otm"

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 25 April 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

Bill Brewster's DJ History tribute has an interesting angle of NY dance hits, edits and general dancefloor tunes by Prince and associates. https://soundcloud.com/billbrewster/dj-history-podcast-352-bill-brewster

brotherlovesdub, Monday, 25 April 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link

Jimmy Jam supposedly wants to get his hands on The Vault. I hope if *anyone* touches the stuff in there it's left unembellished/as is. It would be beyond terrible if all kinds of contempo overdubs/remixing and nonsense gets tacked onto those tracks.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 April 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

Also -- toooooo soon, Jimmy. Thought you were classier.

Acid Hose (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 25 April 2016 20:57 (eight years ago) link

Eye personally think it's a little 2 soon 4 people 2 start looking in2 the Vault stuff, and when the time feels right 2 start going down that route then eye hope nobody fucks with the recordings 2 much, if at all. Besides, it's not as if Prince only put out 3 albums or something, he left behind an incredible amount 'o' music. Eye suspect that, diehards aside, there's still a lot of people catching up on the music that he actually officially released... plus all the side projects!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Monday, 25 April 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

susan rogers should be in charge of the vault!

kurt schwitterz, Monday, 25 April 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

okay, if you are only gonna watch ONE mega over the top version of purple rain....yikes!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vCS_iKITCY

scott seward, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link

jeez...thx for that

dynamicinterface, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 02:57 (eight years ago) link

the entire show is up ~for now~ and it's amazing

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 03:05 (eight years ago) link

https://soundcloud.com/user-353868239/prn1999

Here's 2.5 hours of Prince demos

fgti, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 03:54 (eight years ago) link

holy fuck i am losing my mind over these demos
Fucking crush my skull

if only i could download them

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link

oh my god

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:08 (eight years ago) link

There's a plugin for Firefox that lets u

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:13 (eight years ago) link

http://anything2mp3.com/

Fetchboy, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:14 (eight years ago) link

thank you so much!!

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:16 (eight years ago) link

"Do Yourself a Favour"
fuckkk

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:16 (eight years ago) link

Also

http://soundflush.com/

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link

http://i.imgur.com/m56fBgL.jpg

That's Charlie Murphy on the concrete there, in case you couldn't tell.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:18 (eight years ago) link

i feel like i just opened a treasure chest

flappy bird, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 04:32 (eight years ago) link

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/22/magazine/prince-andthe-competition.html?_r=0

To mount a proscenium in the company of Prince, who died Thursday at age 57, was to bask in greatness and to risk humiliation. On occasions like this one, Prince’s performances had a way of shifting from show business as usual — a star’s prerogative to entertain and strut his stuff — into the realm of pure blood sport. He aimed not only to put on a great show but also to show others up, to singe lesser mortals with pyrotechnic displays of musicianship and charisma. His competitive instincts could overwhelm his gentler, courtlier ones. A month before the Rock Hall gig, he appeared on the Grammy Awards, charging through a medley of his hits alongside Beyoncé. You could see him straining to be courteous, to cede the spotlight a bit. But after a few minutes, he appeared to lose patience and cranked up the virtuosity — dancing, shredding on guitar, sliding from the depth-sounder bottom end of his vocal register into an otherworldly falsetto. The spectacle concluded with another guitar toss, and Beyoncé, one of the world’s more unflappable performers, was left looking rather windblown, teetering on her high heels.

StillAdvance, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 07:50 (eight years ago) link

was travelling when I heard the news and could not believe it

such a powerful soul, his curiosity in music has given me so much inspiration, his musicality was mindblowing, his sense of humour contagious

we had a very uncommon level of snowfall this april

rip :'(

niels, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 08:49 (eight years ago) link

I love how that soundcloud mix *starts* with Extra Lovable. Like, right off the bat, here's a jam that could have been a hit for anyone.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 12:10 (eight years ago) link

seriously anyone in this thread not listening to that demos mix needs to GETT ON ITT STTATT

MatthewK, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 12:53 (eight years ago) link

Several years ago, a local virtuoso tribute band (in recent months they've tackled both Bowie and Earth, Wind & Wire) did a Prince set. This was the setlist:

Sexy M.F.
Alphabet St.
When Doves Cry
Nothing Compares 2 U
Sign 'O' The Times
Seven
Housequake
P Control
Head
Little Red Corvette
Electric Chair
Pop Life
Starfish & Sometimes Medley
Darling Nikki
Lady Cab Driver
Call My Name
Let's Go Crazy
Purple Rain

Songs were apparently chosen democratically, which is why I think the setlist was maybe a missed opportunity. So, question: if you could choose two (and only two) songs to go, which would they be, and what would you pick to replace them? I'd probably kill "P Control" and swap it for "Erotic City" and swap "Electric Chair" for "I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man."

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link

(Ha, Earth Wind and Fire)

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 13:36 (eight years ago) link

No, do not tell me there's no such crossover band as "Earth, Wind and Wire" and that means they don't do "Boogie WonderDrill"

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 13:46 (eight years ago) link

Wire ... now with horns and Afro-futurist pyramid lyrics!

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 13:49 (eight years ago) link

Interrupting my love train of thought
White lines of latitude and longitude

scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 13:50 (eight years ago) link

i think 'erotic city' could have been a huge hit had prince been willing to sanitize the lyrics for radio play

it's certainly his stealth greatest hit, if you know what i mean

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 13:52 (eight years ago) link

i wonder, what do we think is prince's worst album, excluding some of the web-only and concert-only releases? i suspect there aren't many qualified to answer that question, since it requires close familiarity with all this albums, including those from the last 10 years. conventional wisdom says his nadir was around the turn of the millenium, with rave un2 the joy fantastic and (the very different) rainbow children.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:07 (eight years ago) link

that's about right

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:12 (eight years ago) link

I like The Rainbow Children, but it's probably the biggest outlier in the whole Prince catalogue.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:21 (eight years ago) link

Didn't he issue two VHS cassettes at one point, in the middle of the "Slave" business, wonder what they were about..?

Mark G, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:23 (eight years ago) link

N.E.W.S. is the worst by a wide margin.

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 26 April 2016 14:26 (eight years ago) link


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