mansun have like 3 threads!!!
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 21 April 2016 12:35 (eight years ago) link
your experimental novel is Mansun slash fic isn't it?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 April 2016 12:42 (eight years ago) link
shhhhh
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 21 April 2016 12:43 (eight years ago) link
I never feel like that with Joyce at all, and FW isn't really fiction.
oh sure I was v callow and wrong and full of wrong-headed notions about form and genre when I had those thoughts
― some men just want to watch the world Bern (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 April 2016 12:53 (eight years ago) link
We were all young once.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 April 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link
https://tune.pk/video/5311874/father-ted-mrs-doyle-guessing-the-name
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 April 2016 21:03 (eight years ago) link
I think a couple of my relatives are in there.
― Romeo Daltrey (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 April 2016 21:05 (eight years ago) link
It's the other greatest Irish listmaker who inspires the Father Ted name-guessing - similar scene in the 3rd Policeman
― woof, Thursday, 21 April 2016 21:52 (eight years ago) link
but i just keep staring at that list
Left Boot Sent on Approval
― woof, Thursday, 21 April 2016 21:54 (eight years ago) link
similar scene in the 3rd Policeman
Right, read it years ago but I don't remember much about it - apart from how it made me feel. Got to read that again.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 April 2016 07:56 (eight years ago) link
pynchon's disgusting candy drill + alliterative feast at either end of gravity's rainbow were just standing on these shoulders huh
― And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:48 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Is that the only book you've read?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 21 April 2016 11:50 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
siiiiiick
― carly rae jetson (thomp), Friday, 22 April 2016 08:43 (eight years ago) link
[found it]'Do you recall that you told me that I was not here at all because I had no name and that my personality was invisible to the law?''I said that.''Then how can I be hanged for a murder, even if I did commit it and there is no trial or preliminary proceedings, no caution administered and no hearing before a Commissioner of the Public Peace?'[...]Then he spoke.'Are you completely doubtless that you are nameless?' he asked.'Positively certain.''Would it be Mick Barry?''No.''Charlemange O'Keeffe?''No.''Sir Justin Spens?''Not that.''Kimberley?''No.''Bernard Farm?''No.''Joseph Poe or Nolan?''No.''One of the Garvins or the Moynihans?''Not them.''Rosencranz O'Dowd?''No.''Would it be O'Benson?''Not O'Benson.''The Quigleys, The Mulrooneys or the Hounimen?''No.''The Hardimen or the Merrimen?''Not them.''Peter Dundy?''No.''Scratch?''No.''Lord Brad?''Not him.''The O'Growneys, the O'Roartys or the Finnehys?''No.''That is an amazing piece of denial and denunciation,'he said.He passed the red cloth over his face again to reduce the moisture.'An astonishing parade of nullity,' he added.'My name is not Jenkins either,' I vouchsafed.'Roger MacHugh?''Not Roger.''Sitric Hogan?''No.''Not Conroy?''No.''Not O'Conroy?''Not O'Conroy.''There are very few more names that you could have, then,' he said.
― woof, Friday, 22 April 2016 08:51 (eight years ago) link
That's so good, thanks!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 April 2016 09:07 (eight years ago) link
But to go back to the Joyce, how many racehorses have been named from that list? "Tight before Teatime" has surely been taken up by now.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 April 2016 09:10 (eight years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=see3U9uUeZ4
― mahb, Friday, 22 April 2016 09:13 (eight years ago) link
The child, a natural child, thenown by the mnames of, (aya!aya!), wouldbewas kidnapped at an age of recent probably,possibly remoter; or he conjured himself from seight by slideat hand; for which thetheatron is a lemoronage; at milch-goat fairmesse; in full dogdhis; sod on a fall; pat; the hunderingblundering dunderfunder of plundersundered manhood; behold,he returns; renascenent; fincarnate; still foretold around the hearth-side; at matin a fact; hailed chimers' ersekind; foe purmanant,fum in his mow; awike in wave risurging into chrest; victis poenishesternis; fostfath of solas; fram choicest of wiles with warmenand sogns til Banba, burial aranging; under articles thirtynine ofthe reconstitution; by the lord's order of the canon consecrand-able; earthlost that we thought him; pesternost, the noneknownworrier; from Tumbarumba mountain; in persence of wholelandslots; forebe all the rassias; sire of leery subs of dub; the Dig-gins, Woodenhenge, as to hang out at; with spawnish oel full hisangalach; the sousenugh; gnomeosulphidosalamermauderman; thebig brucer, fert in fort; Gunnar, of The Gunnings, Gund; oneof the two or three forefivest fellows a bloke could in holidaycrowd encounter; benedicted be the barrel; kilderkins, lids off; aroache, an oxmaster, a sort of heaps, a pamphilius, a vintivatniviceny, a hygiennic contrivance socalled from the editor; thethick of your thigh; you knox; quite; talking to the vicar's joyand ruth; the gren, woid and glue been broking by the maybolegards; he; when no crane in Elga is heard; upout to speak thislay; without links, without impediments, with gygantogyres,with freeflawforms; parasama to himself; atman as evars; whomotherwise becauses; no puler as of old but as of young a palatin;whitelock not lacked nor temperasoleon; though he appears afunny colour; stoatters some; but a quite a big bug after thedahlias; place inspectorum sarchent; also the hullow chyst ex-cavement; astronomically fabulafigured; as Jambudvispa Vipraforesaw of him; the last half versicle repurchasing his pawnedword; sorensplit and paddypatched; and pfor to pfinish our pfunof a pfan coalding the keddle mickwhite; sure, straight, slim,sturdy, serene, synthetical, swift.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 11 May 2017 20:12 (six years ago) link
#Trumps1stYearAtHogwarts pic.twitter.com/aGMZcVLWOH— wint (@dril) January 19, 2018
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 19 January 2018 22:19 (six years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6CHq9mXkJ8
― F# A# (∞), Monday, 19 February 2018 18:24 (six years ago) link
The crisp of the crackling is in the chawing.Give us an-other cup of your scald.Santos Mozos!That was a damn good cup of scald!You could trot a mouse on it.I ingoyed your pick of hissing hot luncheon fine, I did, than’ awfully, (sublime!)— Finnegans Wake (@finnegansreader) June 19, 2019
got a massive idiotic laugh attack from "a cup of scald". It has give me this image of some congenial host pouring some boiling wine straight from a kettle.
― calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:30 (four years ago) link
:) we should make this a permanent ilx FW reading group
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link
I'd definitely like to try tackling it. It's about 3 years ago to the day that I last attempted it.
― frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 08:57 (four years ago) link
I'm in
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link
To be read alongside Tōru Takemitsu's riverrun and a way a lone.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link
xxp cant believe you’ve never heard this extremely auld wan from Dublin phrase!But yeah, I’m in!
― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:02 (four years ago) link
Altho this online annotated edition is coming along nicely http://finwake.com/01/01.htm there's something distracting to me in superabundant footnotes, even tho they add thoughts and knowledge i didn't possess already
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:06 (four years ago) link
Some contemporaneous secondary reading material:
https://zehfilardo.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/our-exagmination-round-his-factification-for-incamination-of-work-in-progress-searcheable.pdf
(Work in Progress was Finnegans Wake's working title).
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link
i love Takemitsu so yes yes
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:07 (four years ago) link
I feel like I'm ready for it, but always have 5 or 6 history books lined up on my kindle, and Shalamov was the author that taught me most that fictional worlds can be much more truthful than historical accounts by hardbrained professors. Sorry getting dizzy spells after too much coffee.
― calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:09 (four years ago) link
I'm in as well!
― Uptown VONC (Le Bateau Ivre), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:09 (four years ago) link
cuppa scald and trot a mouse well by god lads thats just everyday talk tbh
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:14 (four years ago) link
But deems, you are Finnegan.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:15 (four years ago) link
if it really was scalding all the alcohol would be burnt away:(
― calzino, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:16 (four years ago) link
No such thing as skalding without mulled wine.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:18 (four years ago) link
im blissfully ignorant as to whether being finnegan is a good or bad thing and shall remain so
― godfellaz (darraghmac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link
Good not bad imho.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:19 (four years ago) link
I mean, he's a primordial giant and pub owner.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:21 (four years ago) link
I gave this account a follow for a while. Loved the annotations as she read the thing:
Joyce's advice on goodbye #finnshotel pic.twitter.com/XOos80Uduq— Susie Lopez (@LookUpYoga) October 30, 2017
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:25 (four years ago) link
a) one of the knottiest knots i find in reading FW is the feeling that each sentence and obv sometimes each word carries a semantic level informed by knowing the whole book - discovering the book is always partially predicated on rediscovering it or anticipating what you might be discovering
b) i got no idea what form a reading group might take or how we might proceed - but those aren't reasons not to do it
c) yeah there's always other books on the go. I'm only just beyond paddling in The Tale of Genji atm, amongs other sidetracks and a permanent sense of distraction and half-arsing everything. But there's probably always time to put the knitting down and wonder thru FW again, especially in company.
d) i had a (d) about the ghost story of the narrator of The Bell Jar getting lost and crazy in the shallow end of FW but i'm fucked if i can remember what it was, i'm kind of at work lol
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:29 (four years ago) link
e) maybe we should just follow the Twitter reader more diligently on here for a while and pull at the threads it throws up
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
How far in is the twitter?
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:36 (four years ago) link
Brb, going to remedy my ailing German and Italian, pick up proper Ancient Greek and Latin then dabble in Irish Gaelic, Norwegian and Old English before reattempting to read the whole thing, bemoaning my lack of Sanskrit and Hebrew all the while.
― pomenitul, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link
From my infrequent use of Twitter i think the account i follow tosses up excerpts at random, not necessarily reading from "beginning" to "end"
I mean that's not inappropriate
But another aspect of that knot i was talking about is that reading FW as atomised chunks feels as wrong as it's right, it's doing the book a disservice to imagine it's not moving or goung anywhere even if where it goes is an endless return
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link
That account does do it from beginning to end, one passage at 10 min intervals.
If you want to know where it is just Google the passage.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link
ah right. Good. riverrun.
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 09:44 (four years ago) link
Delmore Schwartz’s cat
― TS The Students vs. The Regents (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:16 (four years ago) link
I was wacthing a thing on Joyce on the i-Player last night (presented by Angelica Houston, obv.). No-one on it really speaks up for FW.
― fetter, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
Huston presumably got the gig cause of the dead
― shhh / let peaceful like things (wins), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
Yes and it was bad bad. Only liked Frank McGuiness' comments iirc
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 19 June 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link
― govussy blues (gyac), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link
We could probably do Book 1 on a section by section basis. That'll be untenable later on but it's a way to start.
― Oy McVey (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 19 June 2019 13:20 (four years ago) link