I think in the book it's a group of pottery figures representing a love triangle?
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 18 April 2016 09:39 (seven years ago) link
the painting is a Corot iirc but there's nothing more specific than that - its only signification is that it's expensive as a gift from Anne?
The point where Smiley is able to link Witchcraft and the rotten apple is only dramatically explicit in the book (it's a great moment of realisation, the bit where everything unfolds for Smiley), implicit in the TV and missed entirely in the film i think. it's the thing that bothers me most with the adaptations, because it's critical how Smiley gets there: detection through paperwork. I can't remember the details of the book reasoning.
― Fizzles, Monday, 18 April 2016 11:53 (seven years ago) link
I see that someone asked this same question on the IMDb forum for the series, and here's how someone else answered it:
The business with Tarr and Merlin is complicated, and it’s easy to miss its significance.
• After Tarr flees Lisbon and hides out in Marseilles, Karla is desperate to shut him up. After using Witchcraft to discredit him at the Circus, Karla sends people to look for Tarr.
• Tarr, realizing that he’s being looked for, decides it’s time to come in from the cold. In order to protect his daughter and his daughter’s mother, he sets up a diversion: He secures travel bookings to London for them in the name of “Poole,” to match his own false identity, which he knows is blown. He then gives them the false Swiss papers that he had on him when he went to Lisbon and sends them to an entirely different destination. At this point, the only people in the world who associate the “Poole” travel bookings with Tarr are the Russians.
• In Guillam’s meeting with Alleline et al, he learns that Merlin is relating the “Poole/Tarr family to London” story to the Circus as a way of further discrediting him before he gets to anyone at the Circus. This draws a direct line between Merlin and Karla.
The rest of it is a result of Smiley’s reading of the history of Witchcraft, and his realization from that of how Witchcraft serves the needs of Moscow Centre. While this is the subject of an entire chapter of the novel, the whole thing is explained in a single brief scene in the TV series, and not at all in the recent film. It’s not really surprising that it wasn’t really clear.
The person wrote this is correct that it's not very clear in the series, and not explained at all in the movie. There's no scene where Smiley would connect all these dots, so his claim that Witchcraft is linked to the mole seems to come out of nowhere.
― Tuomas, Monday, 18 April 2016 12:13 (seven years ago) link
Do we have a thread on Night Manager?
They did a good job on it, despite/because/whatever studding it with big star actors and glamming it up
― Never changed username before (cardamon), Monday, 18 April 2016 21:14 (seven years ago) link
still no thread afaik but I'm watching it now on AMC and enjoying it
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 14:31 (seven years ago) link
(The Night Manager, that is)
good menswear
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 16 May 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
pvmic
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:40 (seven years ago) link
although the scene in the most recently aired episode had hiddleston's character being sized up by a tailor and the dimensions read off made me think, damn that is one fit dude
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 16 May 2016 19:42 (seven years ago) link
I think it was like 41" chest, 32" waist
All fine attributes for modelling men's underwear and boat racing season, but not significant qualities in a half decent actor.
― calzino, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:07 (seven years ago) link
or modelling t-shirtshttp://assets.elleuk.com/gallery/23464/tom-hiddleston-elle-feminism-t-shirt__large.jpg
― calzino, Monday, 16 May 2016 21:10 (seven years ago) link
Guinness & Co rule, Hurt & Co drool
― normcore strengthening exercises (benbbag), Monday, 16 May 2016 23:25 (seven years ago) link
lol http://www.hollywood-elsewhere.com/2016/06/sedative/
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 2 June 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
pretty sure I've used those shows in much the same way many times
― Al Moon Faced Poon (Moodles), Thursday, 2 June 2016 21:41 (seven years ago) link
although I often don't make it into bed before falling asleep
confession: I didn't finish the blu ray set of the original series. Love the book, the movie is okay-to-good, I didn't feel like the miniseries was leaps and bounds beyond it (aside from having more time to fit material in) and both pale in comparison to the novel.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 2 June 2016 21:47 (seven years ago) link
mini series owns so hard
― lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2016 20:56 (seven years ago) link
i liked the night manager alot tho agree w whoever said it was unnecessarily sexed up, especially the scene where they demo the weapons by shooting multiple airplanes out of the sky was very silly
― lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
xp otm otm otm fu "karl malone" morelike karla moron
― poor fiddy-less albion (darraghmac), Thursday, 14 July 2016 20:59 (seven years ago) link
Lol i was so busy linking that i didnt notice it was milo
i dont have a milo/ttss joke
Someone start a Night Manager thread plz, it is completely disrespectful to mention that garbage on this thread.
― calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:00 (seven years ago) link
its by the same author
― lag∞n, Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
I am not being completely serious, but he is a terrible writer and i didn't notice this thread was about the movie - rather than the two brilliant series.
― calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:31 (seven years ago) link
also*
― calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2016 21:35 (seven years ago) link
yeah night manager was trash
grudging respect for the sun's "tinker taylor snogs a spy"
― r|t|c, Friday, 15 July 2016 11:59 (seven years ago) link
at least there was some comedy relief added in the ep where TH is developing his drug dealer/tough guy back story or Colman's Yorkshire accent throughout.
― calzino, Friday, 15 July 2016 13:30 (seven years ago) link
actually her accent isn't funny it is just very bad.
― calzino, Friday, 15 July 2016 13:32 (seven years ago) link
I liked Night Manager but it was sooo lightweight
― mh, Friday, 15 July 2016 14:39 (seven years ago) link
no love for house md smh
― lag∞n, Friday, 15 July 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
I was just listening to a really compelling episode of R4 series Document about Eric Roberts - the MI5 op who uncovered a large network of 5th Column fascists in wartime England. The MI5 fucked him off in the cold war years when he was in Vienna, possibly because of his grammar school background - they probably thought he was a Soviet mole. After which he went into a complete ILXer style huff and followed it up by emigrating to Canada!
― calzino, Saturday, 22 April 2017 23:04 (six years ago) link
Is that downloadable, sounds just the ticket for my drive today
― virginity simple (darraghmac), Sunday, 23 April 2017 07:55 (six years ago) link
I'm not sure if it's downloadable but link is here.http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b061qzwt
― calzino, Sunday, 23 April 2017 08:55 (six years ago) link
i had to make a gif for this
https://i.makeagif.com/media/5-25-2017/W8XGiW.gif
― nomar, Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:44 (six years ago) link
It is perfect.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 25 May 2017 00:53 (six years ago) link
Best moment of the series
― Moodles, Thursday, 25 May 2017 01:54 (six years ago) link
😍
― Yoni Loves Chocha (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 25 May 2017 02:32 (six years ago) link
R.I.P. Ricki Tarr :/
― nomar, Thursday, 3 August 2017 16:43 (six years ago) link
Park Chan-Wook is making his TV debut directing a John Le Carré adaptation starring Alexander Skarsgard and Michael Shannon?! pic.twitter.com/N4mRAvQOPi— sonia saraiya (@soniasaraiya) August 21, 2018
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 22:20 (five years ago) link
fuckin all right
― faculty w1fe (silby), Tuesday, 21 August 2018 22:21 (five years ago) link
doesnt sound too shabby
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 00:39 (five years ago) link
hi lag∞n!
― The Silky Veils of Alfred (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 00:48 (five years ago) link
haay
― sprout god (lag∞n), Wednesday, 22 August 2018 00:54 (five years ago) link
watching again (movie) and rly its excellent
― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:41 (five years ago) link
the little drummer girl is pretty good so far
― la bébé du nom-nom (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 4 November 2018 21:54 (five years ago) link
ilm
― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Sunday, 4 November 2018 22:05 (five years ago) link
This is my comfort movie
― I have measured out my life in coffee shop loyalty cards (silby), Monday, 5 November 2018 03:07 (five years ago) link
have u watched the mini series
― lag∞n, Monday, 5 November 2018 04:04 (five years ago) link
Do we all love the BBC’s Smiley’s People? I love the BBC’s Smiley’s People. That and Tinker Tailor I’ll watch at least once per year.
― chinavision!, Monday, 5 November 2018 13:44 (five years ago) link
its great but its a step below TTSS tbf
― lie back and think of englund (darraghmac), Monday, 5 November 2018 14:12 (five years ago) link