~~~~~nutrition nazis 2012~~~~~

Yeah, the Kaiser model is statistically based, so if a certain approach works 85% of the time, you must be subjected to it and prove that it failed for you before anyone is allowed to try any other approach with you. You can see why this is a scientifically sound methodology, but it sucks if you are in any way atypical and understand how your case differs from the statistical norm.

xps thankyou ODM! but i think it's just not the diet for me. i think lots of different extreme or semi extreme diets work, but only for certain people.

I would be surprised if the group approach works anything like 85% of the time in the long term.

remember this lol

i want to change the way i eat and live. making a vegan stir fry tonight. BUT also drinking a Sixpoint Resin so

i wish i could get hypnotized out of my love of IPAs. they're one of my only true dietary vices but they mess so much up--in the morning i will feel dehydrated and won't want to go running

unfortunately i do remember this

it seems like "nutrition nazis" is a self-defeating way to think about eating healthier. you gotta crave the good feelings that comes from health, not fetishize the fact that you're denying yourself foods that make you feel bad and hurt your health

how many times does it need to be said?!

i guess over and over until no one affixes "nazi" to the word "nutrition" anymore

Mostly I smirked thinking of the Great Sardine Stan of whatever year it was.

There was a LOT of talk about sardines at one point.

"Soup nazi" is funny til real nazis start killing worshipers and protesters.

sardines are our only hope

i never thought it was very funny to minimize nazism to imply strictness or whatever it is supposed to imply
i didn't like soup nazi either

there was a straight up sardine obsession here
also those horrible slimy yam "noodles"

Treeship have you tried something like Liquid IV? Would help with the hydration issues.

In an era when western right wing governments are calorie counting and implementing "popular" policies that subject "undeserving" sections of the population to much lower levels of nutrition than the majority and forcing them into charity foodbanks - that's the definition of Nutrition Nazis for me.

talk to me about intermittent fasting. am I going to turn into a libertarian doofus like j03 r0g4n

what do you expect to gain from intermittent fasting?

I've looked into it. I think its beneficial but not enough to override an otherwise bad diet, and its effects are wildly overstated by proponents.

Much of the cellular response to fasting doesn't occur without 3+ days of water-only or very hypercaloric nutrition, and I think the most interesting and adoptable fasting inspired approach is the fasting mimicking diet, 5+ days of a < 1000 kcal low protein diet, once a month or season.

sardines are our only hope

I have been meaning to eat sardines for like three months now but have not gotten around to it #NNfailure

I bought sardines thinking I would finally do the avocado on bread thing and I kept looking at the can and thinking of all the million things I would like to eat before I put those oily fishes in my mouth

#nnfail

advice: spread bread with tomato paste or passata, arrange fish on top, grate some cheese, grind pepper, grill

Damn need to try this!

lol, every time I walk past sardines in the grocery store I think about how ilx would want me to eat those.

oh, gave me another idea what to do w/harissa. ty, MatthewK! i don't eat 'em that often but when i do i usu get smoked sardines. dang, part of the reason i like them is bc i thought they were a sustainable seafood option. just looked on montereybayseafoodwatch and it seems they are not
https://www.seafoodwatch.org/seafood-recommendations/groups/sardine?q=Sardine

I love sardines with grey poupon.

Bitter greens: Sautee, add minced garlic, lemon juice. Voila, now they tasted like sauteed garlic and lemon!

I think Pacific sardines are considered a sustainable fish, Atlantic are not. I usually buy the Wild Planet brand, no sure how widely available it is.

is any fish sustainable anymore

A few fisheries are managed to maximize tonnage caught while theoretically not decreasing future stocks. And by a few, I mean just the ones listed as "best choices" in Monterrey Bay Aquarium's consumer guides.

Even the catch of Peruvian sardines has declined. Fish oil plants lay fallow, and the price is high enough that sardine meal is no longer a major component of cat food and farmed salmon feed.

i would buy arctic char but have never seen it in stores in Calif. i used to purchase a lot of it when my job was purchaser though. it's a v nice alt. to salmon/trout (not really crazy about trout tbh). would be happy to live on scallops, oysters and sand dabs

I have objections to some of these in the "good choices" category. Gulf shrimp, for example, requires dragging nets over the seabed, and that destroys habitat for juveniles of finfish.

Re: nutrition, I delved into the seafood components most likely to provide direct benefit (not just by displacing red/processed meat). Its likely just long chain omega-3s (EPA/DHA) and taurine. There are vegan supplement alternatives.

I still viscerally loathe this thread title.

We can request a mod to change it, yeah?

I did a couple of weight loss bets where I did intermittent fasting and it worked pretty well. IDK about the supposed health benefits (besides eating less overall) but I will say after a week or so you get used to it

I was doing 24-48 hour fasting every week to other weekish, depending on how I felt or my plans, for about two years. It was fine. I usually tried to do it mon-tues or thurs-fri while I was at work so I would be busy and have a routine.

It sucked at first but I eventually got so used to it I could still work out the morning of the third day before having my first real meal to eat. Hmmm, this all sounds very crazy.

yeah 48 hours sounds tough but 24 is really no problem, I skip breakfast most days anyway so it's just a matter of skipping lunch really. it doesn't really affect you as much as you'd think.

wtf 48 hours??? working out the morning of the third day before finally eating?

why u do this?

i mean "food restriction thread" is accurate -- there is nothing in here specifically about nutrition and personally i am opposed to " _____ nazi" anything

doesn't matter what i think, it's just inaccurate and also (imo) offensive

I know it sounds nutty but this is when I was in really really good shape and eating basically the Tom Brady diet. If I fasted on thurs and fri I had a saturday morning kickboxing class that I really liked so I would go to that first before eating my breakfast. Technically I was consuming 200-300 calories on those fasting days spread throughout (like small amounts of green juice) so it was soothing and I never really felt lightheaded or sick or whatever. I was just looking up my bloodwork from those years and things like my cholesterol were insanely good.

I used to have one meal a day. Just worked out easier. I was never lightheaded. Now w a family, it wld be anti-social (?) to do that really.

not sure where to put this. i think it's interesting. but then got to the end and, uggh:

Companies such as Nestlé are investing heavily in functional food ingredients, dietary supplements, and medical nutrition products in order to be able to provide foodservice operators with more options when it comes to the ingredients and products they can supply.

https://www.restaurant.org/Articles/News/The-restaurant-of-the-future?fbclid=IwAR3mgUvolkgihzf57S5z2q2AepUMxL17dgeo7jZY8GU2uBRBjsW60Ak7iDM

lads... sardines

lol, every time I walk past sardines in the grocery store I think about how ilx would want me to eat those.

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After buying several tins of sardines over the years, which would inevitably waste away in the back of the cabinet, I finally cracked a tin this morning and am eating them with lemon juice. This is not bad at all. Can definitely include these in my healthy food options.

When I gave up vegetarianism several years ago, I was sick and fucking tired of beans, and have avoided them to a large extent since then. However, last year my daughter was diagnosed with some food issues, so she has been eating black beans every single night. So recently, I started throwing a can of beans a day into the mix somewhere for myself. As a guy who struggles with excessive snacking, they're remarkably satiating.

You guys, I've recently taken up swimming in addition to the sardines and on those days when I happen to combine those two activities, I feel like a motherfucking PENGUIN.

Yes! Best sardines I’ve had so far are the Bella brand. Also Trader Joe’s has some good ones imo - although a bit salty tasting.

Bela! Not Bella.