Creation Records

Many thanks for the Emily info. I'd been wondering about that band for years, owing to the likely unfounded, it turns out, Gruff Rhys chatter.

Here is the official line on Gruff:

Mark Williams
‏@MarkW06
@mjqmjqmjq cheers, gruff did play drums but not on any recorded stuff and only for a couple of gigs

Are you ready!

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“It’s a story of relentless ambition, mental torment, drugs, bankruptcy, unfathomable wealth, courting politicians and of how one written-off young Glaswegian upstart rose to irrevocably change the face of British culture,” according to the film’s production company...

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The burning question will be, who plays Rubber Jaw?

Awesome, can't wait. Creation & Mute mean far more to me than Factory ever did.

The production company can use that quote in the promotional material.

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I am available to provide additional dialogue should the filmmakers require it - particularly in those scenes involving the character of Bobby Gillespie. I also feel that the Old Etonian just out of RADA they pick to play Bobby might need a dialogue coach to help them perfect Bobby's extremely working class accent.

Got excited for a second as I saw the name 'Cavanagh' in there, which could ideally have meant the inclusion of the Terry Bickers curry binge scene but then realised it's to be based on McGee's autobiography. Have long since fantasised about a film of gargantuan length based on My Magpie Eyes.... featuring Lawrence, House Of Love, Baby Amphetamine etc, but all things considered, this will most likely be terrible

https://www.nme.com/news/music/creation-stories-movie-alan-mcgee-irvine-welsh-danny-boyle-oasis-interview-movie-2477425

Given the people involved I think McGee’s book makes sense as the source text, but I have low expectations.

‘My Magpie Eyes...’ is a phenomenal book, I need to re-read it. Could it work as a film? Certainly wouldn’t provide McGee with the same opportunities for myhologising.

Would love to read My Magpie Eyes, but it's always going for silly money. Presumably a reprint will never happen?

xpost I know it's implausible but we're allowed to fantasise. There are so many bizarre stories across the eras in the Cavanagh book but I can't imagine them making it anywhere near a screenplay, let alone not vetoed by McGee. Fully expect it to be dominated by the Scream and Oasis and painting McGee in a flattering light

this will be pure wank

Paul and Jim both firmly OTM in those two posts.

The film would seem a great opportunity to get “the accountants version of the story” (McGee, of course) back in print.

Was watching Upside Down the Creation Records Story on Amazon Prime last night. Throughout, there were interview clips of an old man in a bowler hat who I don't remember being identified onscreen. My guess being that the man was deceased and the interviews were archival and anyone familiar with the label would understand that. Can anyone help me out here?

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That's BP Fallon

That’s BP Fallon: “ageing Irish DJ, music guru and McGee’s Death Disco co-conspirator (“purple-browed Beep” in T.Rex’s Telegram Sam).”

Thanks all. And he's still alive! Wonder what was up with the old-timey television conceit.

Holy shit, that biopic. What a trainwreck, poor Ewen Bremner carrying the weight of the whole thing, lucky he's a good actor.

It died a death didn’t it?? Literally vanished without trace. I was half tempted to watch it but I feel like those stories have been told a million times.

Guessing it was a tax-dodge thing for somebody(?) Like Status Quo's heist movie.

It was made by Nick Moran, and I feel he had one eye on his mate Dexter.

Problem is, there's really not much of a tale to tell, so it's leavened out with huge amounts of super-real scenes, like Trainspotting and Human Traffic 25+ years too late.

It also makes me crazy how filmmakers who decide to do this kind of movie (esp British ones) can never get a simple scenario like a small gig to look/feel right.

I think 'Control' just about managed it, but the scenes of MBV playing in The Living Room with the crowd (of about 30 people) jumping in the air pumping their fists and rotating 360 degrees while screaming in joy, come the fuck on.

There is a very good recreation of a gig at a 80s shithole uk venue in Nico 1988.

That pre-Smiths Morrissey biopic of a few years ago was particularly bad at this.

sorry to pop in here with an interruption, but that WHAT??

i just watched the trailer and omg how did i miss this????? it looks absolutely, tremendously terrible. i must watch it.

It was a lot better than I expected. Then again, I was expecting very little, but it was mmm passable.

Well, I tried to sorta sum it up

https://theshfl.com/guide/creation-records

i can't find page 2 where you obviously talk at length about revolving paint dream.

Alack.

A lesser-heralded aspect of the collapse of Creation is the whole decade of attempts to make Edward Ball a big star, though I appreciate that if I had a label like that I would probably indulge my friends just as much.

The funny thing is, "Pirate Playlist 66" is one of my favourite albums of all time, whereas I find most of his other albums alright/interesting at best.

Thing about Creation I often think about is how in 2000 when they no longer existed but to release the final singles from XTRMNTR they spun off seemingly utterly uncommercial things like Exterminator and *still* they made the UK Top 40. That's the fanbase era of chartdom in full, gleaming effect.

like Accelerator ahem

Can I just say the best song ever released on Creation by anyone is Love in a Car

I've not heard that LP in forever because i only have it on tape. would buy a CD but the only choice seems to be the 5cd deluxe box which is 4 CDs too many (i must already have 6 copies of Christine and shine on)

I loved Creation's breadth of styles and their onward progression through various styles.

And yet, House of Love, Ride, various others I never saw what the intense love was about.

scrolling through their discography it occurs that the only thing saving them from turning into a complete embarrassment in the second half of the 90s was SFA. not sorry

but after Xtrmntr and Guerrilla my third favourite Creation album is C'mon Kids :(

oh that's up there for me too, don't think of them as late 90s though! and XTRMNTR isn't even 90s lol (i like it too)

cmon kids as best boos album is a great call tbc

nah was just saying C'mon Kids was second half of the 90s!

This thread prompted me to sell The Telescopes Precious Little EP at the record store. A nastier sounding piece of vinyl would be hard to imagine. I got $5 for it though!

House of Love is a total classic, on the other hand.

I can’t think of any record that encapsulates the nightmare of the last 20ish years as well as XTRMNTR.

Right? I discovered it right at the beginning of lockdown, it absolutely hits the right (f-ed up) tones of the times.

C'mon Kids is a masterpiece, one day I will poll it.

Will just need to make sure Dog Latin is around

C'mon Kids is a masterpiece, one day I will poll it.

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there's a 33 1/3 book inside me about C'mon Kids.

It's a great British Psychedelic album, as good as Piper, Butterfly, Sgt Pepper etc.

Songs about the seaside - check
Creepy Childrens song - check
Guitar Freakouts - check
William Blake reference - check
'pop' songs for 'the kids' - check

xp I'm around!