"I'm a sovereign human being, I stand under common law only" - Thread of Freemen

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True.

Someone I know kind of "got into" the sovereign booshit in the mid-'00s. We don't talk about it much, and they live far away now, but it saddens me, and I haven't felt like looking into the madness of it all very closely, but I'm sure it's baroque.

augh (Control Z), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link

It's extra-weird because they identify, emphatically, as Sinti (Middle-European / Central Asian; nomadic; aka "gypsy," but not Romani either) instead of white, and, again emphatically, as non-heterosexual (but not "gay" or "lesbian" in any normative sense either), and as Sufi Muslim, despite having been born to (at least nominally) white Lutheran parents in the rural Midwest. Go figure.

augh (Control Z), Saturday, 9 April 2016 17:48 (eight years ago) link

i think some people can adopt all sorts of fantasy conceptions of themselves if they're bored and dissatisfied enough

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link

even the Freemen mania has a side of wishing the world was more magical, buried away in the feckless selfishness

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:02 (eight years ago) link

Indeed. Unsurprisingly, perhaps, some of this emerged during an extended period of recovery from an injury. Still, they are genuinely very intelligent and talented and have a great sense of humor as well, and having known them over decades it simply wouldn't occur to me to question their self-identification as Sinti, non-heterosexual, and Sufi. The sovereign stuff, though, they can fuck right off with that.

augh (Control Z), Saturday, 9 April 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link

Um, this thread isn't indexed, searchably, for Google, is it?

augh (Control Z), Saturday, 9 April 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link

this is on ile so i think it is

call all destroyer, Saturday, 9 April 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

Searched on "Thread of Freemen" in quotes. Up came this thread.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Saturday, 9 April 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link

freemen inviolable sovereign rights of individual survival end times mra hangout coffee fun haribo

map, Saturday, 9 April 2016 21:12 (eight years ago) link

might be an idea for it to be deindexed anyway if that's still doable

disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 April 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link

welcome to all our new free-:man friends :) posting here enters u into a contract with me where u are obliged to transcribe "otm" after each of my intellectual property

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 April 2016 00:00 (eight years ago) link

otm

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 10 April 2016 00:05 (eight years ago) link

:)

lag∞n, Sunday, 10 April 2016 00:11 (eight years ago) link

lolol

*Is* it still possible to deindex a thread, specifically this thread? Because that would be really great, due in part to my indiscretion, for which I apologize. I didn't use any names or genders, but still, they'd recognize themselves instantly. :\

augh (Control Z), Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:05 (eight years ago) link

it is, you should prob post in mod request forum so someone sees it and either the thread can be deindexed or your identifying descriptions can be edited.

call all destroyer, Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:07 (eight years ago) link

Thank you, call all destroyer. Will do.

augh (Control Z), Sunday, 10 April 2016 01:11 (eight years ago) link

*recognizes self instantly*

hunangarage, Sunday, 10 April 2016 05:40 (eight years ago) link

http://gawker.com/friendly-fire-in-the-american-patriot-death-cult-1769165742

Intra group squabbles after Malhuer and drunken (possible) murder.

Modernity, war, and economic devastation will do a lot to people not given a safety net, socially or psychologically.

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:14 (eight years ago) link

libs so bleeding heart that we have to feel compassion for violent reactionaries too now? sometimes fascistic will to power is just fascistic will to power.

Mordy, Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link

He added, “When it comes to overthrowing a government, you have to start off peacefully.”

^Perfectly achieves that difficult mix of careful weighty thought and wild-eyed crazy.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 16:24 (eight years ago) link

If those people violently oppose being given a safety net, fuck em

nah they want a safety net, just not those moochers

μpright mammal (mh), Tuesday, 12 April 2016 22:51 (eight years ago) link

one month passes...

Some freeman cry-for-help going hog-wild just now with FOI requests

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/user/george_tsigarides

a defense for Euro-Blackface (Bananaman Begins), Friday, 13 May 2016 11:25 (seven years ago) link

You can only withdraw funds from Were-Bank when the moon is full

mick signals, Saturday, 14 May 2016 00:09 (seven years ago) link

I thought it might be where you kept your wergild, which seems like the sort of concept these folks would claim is still in effect.

inside, skeletons are always inside, that's obvious. (dowd), Saturday, 14 May 2016 09:33 (seven years ago) link

were is everyperson

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Saturday, 14 May 2016 09:56 (seven years ago) link

hapless cocks everywhere

An actual friend of mine has started posting stuff like this. Really worried about his mental state.

emil.y, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 11:41 (seven years ago) link

i'm sorry!

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

someone dropped her name on the malheur standoff thread; JJ MacNab is a great reporter on this beat.

https://twitter.com/jjmacnab

goole, Tuesday, 17 May 2016 15:53 (seven years ago) link

http://www.knoxnews.com/news/local/tiny-anderson-courthouse-sign-sparks-big-uproar-332315cb-efc0-2dbe-e053-0100007ff793-380013031.html

A tiny sign affixed to the office door of County Mayor Terry Frank's chief of staff has sparked a big uproar in the latest bizarre twist in Anderson County politics.

The sign, "Lesser Civil Magistrate," on Richard Burroughs' door is linked to the sovereign citizens movement, County Commissioner Steve Mead contends. Mead says the FBI lists that subculture as a "domestic terrorist group."

There is some chutzpah in working for a gubmint paycheck and declaring yourself a sovereign citizen at the same time.

A nationally known air show announcer/personality (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 19 May 2016 02:57 (seven years ago) link

ppl who think ron swanson is real

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 May 2016 02:59 (seven years ago) link

gonna reach a point where local government officials are going to need to be screened by listing any constitutional beefs & if the answer includes the 14th amendment and allcaps = hard pass

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2016 04:36 (seven years ago) link

also lol @ this

After a closed-door, executive session with the county law director Monday night, commissioners passed a motion that any signs on the outside of courthouse doors that open onto hallways — other than those required by the Americans with Disabilities Act or designating an office — are to be removed.

we're doomed

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 19 May 2016 04:42 (seven years ago) link

lol wut

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 May 2016 16:33 (seven years ago) link

http://www.seditionists.com/antigovviolence.pdf

how's life, Monday, 23 May 2016 18:09 (seven years ago) link

bundys complain that their second amendment rights are being violated, i.e., they're not allowed to have guns in jail

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/bundys-want-better-jail-conditions

mookieproof, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:22 (seven years ago) link

Bold attempt

Daithi Bowsie (darraghmac), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:32 (seven years ago) link

Fuck's sake call yourselves a democracy

Noodle Vague, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 18:55 (seven years ago) link

We have started to get these billboards in my town. They are appearing all over the country.

http://i.imgur.com/lmcvVfm.jpg

Seems surprisingly well resourced.

http://legalnamefraud.com

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 21:40 (seven years ago) link

Well, they are quite a big bank

kinder, Wednesday, 25 May 2016 22:16 (seven years ago) link

A nutball has no /legal/ name.

nickn, Thursday, 26 May 2016 01:10 (seven years ago) link

Very well resourced - there is one on the north side of London Bridge station, visible to all the traffic coming south over the bridge iirc.

A quick look at the website confirms what I've been saying for years - YouTube must be stopped.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 26 May 2016 06:46 (seven years ago) link

The woman behind it was in tech and owns an ISP which explains where the money comes from but raises questions about why the website is so bad.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 May 2016 06:49 (seven years ago) link

Is LEGAL NAME underlined, or is that something sticking out from the car in front?

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:04 (seven years ago) link

Underlined.

On a Raqqa tip (ShariVari), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:07 (seven years ago) link

Pretty sure ones I've seen haven't had it underlined, so this is a new development.

"Yeah, we're still not getting the sort of google search numbers and new uptake we'd hoped... maybe there's something we need to change on the billboards..."

So you are a hippocrite, face it! (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 26 May 2016 08:12 (seven years ago) link

"legal name" as a UK concept is v different to US law and largely meaningless as I understand it

Noodle Vague, Thursday, 26 May 2016 09:31 (seven years ago) link


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