jonathan richman: is this guy a class fucking act or what?

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i missed his closest concerts this time out. but i saw him on his last two tours--the last one not even supporting a record IIRC.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 7 April 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link

he was still great the last time i saw him two or three years ago. but yeah, i think he reallllly does not care about the business side of things. he could easily have the profile of at least someone like robyn hitchcock, but even that tiny level of cult fame must be unappealing to him.

tylerw, Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link

I don't blame him really. He's a great live show, great songwriter, great player, good for him for just focusing on the stuff he likes to do.

Οὖτις, Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

yeah, it's totally refreshing really -- I hope he makes enough dough to just keep doing it his way. (though yeah, i wouldn't mind reissues, or a nice box set or something)

tylerw, Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:07 (eight years ago) link

Saw him for like the 5th time live last night. It definitely had its great moments but this may have been the first time I was a tad disappointed. A short gig-an hour, and he raced through some cuts--"That Summer Feeling" and started and stopped others quickly.

I liked his delivery though of "When We Refuse to Suffer," "Take Me to the Plaza at 2 am"(not sure of the exact title), and “As My Mother Lay Lying"

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 April 2016 14:27 (eight years ago) link

No merch for sale at the show. He strolled onstage in a winter coat carrying his acoustic guitar in its case. He threw down the coat on the stage, opened the case and started strumming. I was told he likes to take the train from town to town when he can. He said he doesn't have a tv and doesn't like having one in his hand.

He encouraged the crowd to clap and dance and said "I don't do concerts, Beethoven does concerts (and he does them well)."

curmudgeon, Friday, 8 April 2016 14:32 (eight years ago) link

Saw him on this tour, too. Wasn't utterly moved the way I have sometimes been in the past, but I was charmed as always, and as always I left feeling like I understood him and his world view a little better. I teared up a little at "As My Mother Lay Dying," too.

Evan R, Friday, 8 April 2016 14:34 (eight years ago) link

Paramahansa Yogananda composition on the new album.

timellison, Friday, 8 April 2016 23:43 (eight years ago) link

He made a vague yoga mention at the show I saw

curmudgeon, Saturday, 9 April 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

huh never noticed this before for some reason

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVfCOfh_7VE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdZAQwIMx7k

Οὖτις, Monday, 18 April 2016 15:07 (eight years ago) link

He played near us the night of the San Bernardino shootings. There was just a heaviness in the air and going to see him play in a Costa Mesa strip mall seemed like the right thing to do. 34 years of going to gigs and somehow I'd never seen him before or even made note of the albums after than one with "Velvet Underground" on it.

At first I was freaked out. Jonathan sounded depressed! He moped. I thought of Margaret Keene paintings. He interrupted songs with a routine about not wanting to go back to an earlier time. His eyes bugged out unsettlingly. He sang in French and Arabic about Van Gogh and I was overcome with this feeling that I (as an audience member) really didn't want to disappoint Jonathan Richman. After about twenty minutes of this he broke and in that unmistakable voice, shouted to someone in the back of the room "HEY, IS THAT BAG OF FRIES STILL THERE? LEMME HAVE THOSE FRIES." I think I was so caught in all the odd stories about him that not once did I consider that he's a master showman and works the crowd like a fucking pro. Great show. Definitely go see him if he passes through.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/776/23494874812_c71702f28f_z.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 01:48 (eight years ago) link

He also came on stage in the big coat and did the same routine with throwing down the coat, opening the case, and go. Couldn't tell you if it's all part of the act, but he definitely seems to have constructed his own space out of things. As noted upthread, he definitely seems indifferent to the business/marketing/hype cycle of the world.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 01:53 (eight years ago) link

haha that sounds fabulous. I can see how he would take on the local vibe of an evening to some degree, and work with it until he got it right.

the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 02:03 (eight years ago) link

how long has he been touring w/ tommy larkin? must be over 20 years now.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 04:40 (eight years ago) link

No, not as long as that but still TOO LONG! Wish he'd put together a little and and tour. He got really unambitious after There's Something About Mary.

everything, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link

I think he's been playing with him like 23 years, actually, but I don't know if that was all duo?

timellison, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 05:12 (eight years ago) link

there's about zero chance that jonathan richman is going to get a band together.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link

He has grown very complacent it is true.

everything, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link

yeah, but he's retirement age, so it's OK.

wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 19 April 2016 16:59 (eight years ago) link

he's a master showman and works the crowd like a fucking pro

otm

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 19 April 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link

He got really unambitious after There's Something About Mary

tbf it's probably hard to go more ambitious than Major Role as Singing Narrator in Hollywood Blockbuster. then again he had been doing the stripped down music thing for decades by then.

maybe it's more ambitious to not do the easy thing and just slap together a band that runs through Roadrunner every night.

last saw JR in Athens at the 40 watt club and the experience was a lot like described above. most charming performer i have ever seen.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 11:00 (eight years ago) link

I've seen him with a band inside the last 20 years, but I couldn't peg a date to it …

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 12:52 (eight years ago) link

August 96, it turns out.

Roaming gang of aggressive circlepits (ithappens), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 12:54 (eight years ago) link

what was it, drums and bass?

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link

wait you're saying richman did a drum'n'bass album in the 1990s??

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link

yeah a collab with µ-Ziq iirc

tylerw, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 17:37 (eight years ago) link

maybe it's more ambitious to not do the easy thing and just slap together a band that runs through Roadrunner every night.

Ok, forget about the first Modern Lovers album. I'm with Jonathan in that don't rate it that highly. And I don't have a problem with him performing solo, or with Tommy on drums - I've paid money many, many times for just that, but I'm not gonna pretend that I'm seeing the best Jonathan Richman show. He was a much better performer in the 70s and 80s than now, and one of the reasons is because he was writing songs that involved other people in their performance. Yeah he's a charming performer, but even more charming were the harmonies and the call and response thing that formerly featured in so many of his songs. Often his performances sound mawkish and self-indulgent. Every song ends the same way (by softly singing the title) and a big chunk of his repertoire hasn't changed since the 90s. Let's not pretend he's doing anything edgy.

everything, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

edgy is overrated

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:03 (eight years ago) link

ive never looked for edginess in the music of jonathan richman

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:32 (eight years ago) link

Keep meaning to pause this summer feeling set, but not yet not yet (from the Burger Boogaloo, or something like that, last year in Oakland; 39 minutes): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4TjC20AOds

dow, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:05 (eight years ago) link

Now that's a band.

dow, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 23:29 (eight years ago) link

it's true that the early-mid 1980s was the high point for him, viz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ta6EnFN48xk

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 21 April 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

There's so much wisdom, purity and personality in his current live act that I hadn't even considered the idea of him touring with a full band.

But it'd be interesting to see; even on the new record he's got a ton of backing singers all over his songs, and he has a lot of fun playing off of them. I kept hearing them in my head when he played "Let Me Do This Right" live (great song, btw).

Evan R, Thursday, 21 April 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

xpost. Pretty much any live recordings from the Rockin' Robins period are essential!

everything, Thursday, 21 April 2016 21:01 (eight years ago) link

five months pass...

absolutely class act

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbUYJfbZ-Qc

niels, Friday, 14 October 2016 08:55 (seven years ago) link

Nobel Prize one day surely.

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Friday, 14 October 2016 09:13 (seven years ago) link

three months pass...

last year's album has finally been put on the bandcamp they created for him the other month

https://jonathanrichman.bandcamp.com/

Isi, Wednesday, 18 January 2017 12:44 (seven years ago) link

five months pass...

The ancient weird guy in his toga
Staff in hand
The ancient bearded guy doing yoga
On the sand

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 8 July 2017 14:52 (six years ago) link

Really glad to get to hear Ishkode! Ishkode! all the way through and all the other recent material. It's a really good album, I think. I find what he has to say to still be very interesting and I love his musicality. The abstractness in his compositions has obviously gotten even more extreme.

timellison, Monday, 10 July 2017 00:09 (six years ago) link

From Bandcamp: JONATHAN RICHMAN DOES NOT USE THE INTERNET. ALL EMAILS WILL BE SENT TO BLUE ARROW RECORDS, HIS LABEL.

smug dinner-jazz atrocity (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 11 July 2017 21:56 (six years ago) link

I wish I could say more than "I love his musicality." I suppose it's not the simplest thing to discuss. He's obviously exploring the use of very minimal melodic and harmonic materials more and using more dissonance. I live his voice as an improviser, too, in his singing and his playing.

timellison, Thursday, 13 July 2017 03:49 (six years ago) link

*like*

timellison, Thursday, 13 July 2017 03:53 (six years ago) link

Jonathan re-wrote and re-recorded Old World for the 2008 album

years late but ty for this, had no idea that new version was on an album. as I mentioned upthread, it floored me

sleeve, Thursday, 13 July 2017 04:07 (six years ago) link

ten months pass...

Nice

curmudgeon, Thursday, 24 May 2018 03:56 (five years ago) link

:)

Et Dieu crea l' (Michael White), Thursday, 24 May 2018 04:24 (five years ago) link

Old and New at the same time; so divine.

bodacious ignoramus, Friday, 1 June 2018 16:56 (five years ago) link

M. White!!! hail fellow well met

Οὖτις, Friday, 1 June 2018 17:07 (five years ago) link

this guy is a class fucking act

niels, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:21 (five years ago) link

Jerry Harrison plays on b-side!

Cow_Art, Friday, 1 June 2018 19:30 (five years ago) link


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