$5 for 23pp, Black Panther is for the people
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 April 2016 07:42 (eight years ago) link
It¨s good. It's not earthshaking or twist filled, or unusual like something like The Vision. But it's thoughtful, well plotted, and some of the artwork is pretty awesome. The scene with the two lovers in silhouette was beautiful.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 April 2016 07:43 (eight years ago) link
Little flowery on the prose
Don McGregor tribute?
― Chicamaw (Ward Fowler), Thursday, 7 April 2016 07:56 (eight years ago) link
you tell mehttp://i.imgur.com/jVUruU1.png
― ulysses, Thursday, 7 April 2016 08:03 (eight years ago) link
btw, on thread recommendation I read the first six issues of Tom King's The Vision... it's great!
― ulysses, Thursday, 7 April 2016 08:31 (eight years ago) link
lol "beautiful"
why can't the internet tell me if the Tom King in comics from 2016 is the Tom King in comics from the 90s
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 April 2016 09:56 (eight years ago) link
Why is that lol?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 April 2016 10:02 (eight years ago) link
I mean, I doubt it, but I'd like to think DC finally caught on to the talent behind Snookums, That Loveable Transvestite
lol because the panel as posted by forks was unremarkable bigtwo drawing with block computer colouring (and clunky typing over the top, not that that's on Stelfreeze &/or whoever else, but it's still part of the panel)
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 April 2016 10:40 (eight years ago) link
It's not the most original drawing, no, and nothing in the scene is. But I still think it's beautiful. And it's not normally how the bigtwo draws black skin, I don't think, not to speak of how scenes with two half nude lesbians tend to be drawn.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:07 (eight years ago) link
Marvel probably should lead with the 'two half nude lesbians' in those parts of the country where TNC isn't a hook.
― My Whole Existence Is Flan (Old Lunch), Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:13 (eight years ago) link
They've been discussed quite a bit in the pre-release interviews... Though mostly it was TNC talking with himself about his discomfort with the 'virgin warrior' concept of the dora milaje, how to deal with male gaze and that most of the creative team is male. Probably not the best strategy.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 7 April 2016 12:19 (eight years ago) link
I'd be hella psyched if The Vision tom king was pal-yat-chee tom king
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Thursday, 7 April 2016 19:25 (eight years ago) link
different guy: https://www.facebook.com/tomkingauthor
― ulysses, Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link
that doesn't say he is, he could have gone bald in the 23+* years since Snookums
*wasn't it originally a Daily Texan strip, like Chris Ware and Robert Rodriguez, before Pal-Yat-Chee?
― glandular lansbury (sic), Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:41 (eight years ago) link
he's an ex CIA operative. I think he's been busy with other things.
― ulysses, Thursday, 7 April 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link
Explains why he took a couple of decades off comics.
― glandular lansbury (sic), Friday, 8 April 2016 00:17 (eight years ago) link
The world needs to laugh!
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 April 2016 00:27 (eight years ago) link
I think daily Texan tom King is a storyboarder now
― scarcity festival (Jon not Jon), Friday, 8 April 2016 00:30 (eight years ago) link
I finally switched from subscribing to single issues to subscribing to Marvel’s 5-issue paperbacks. Still reading: Doctor Strange, Howard the Duck, Ms. Marvel, and Squirrel Girl.
― Allen (etaeoe), Sunday, 10 April 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link
It occurred to me today: does every Marvel superhero team now have someone who can teleport or at least some sort of teleportation device?
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 14 April 2016 02:29 (eight years ago) link
probably but only one is adorable
https://thewritersmultiverse.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/ms-marvel-generation-why-2.png?w=474&h=356
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 14 April 2016 06:46 (eight years ago) link
lockjaw and ms marvel are so good together - reminds me of kitty pryde and lockjaw
― a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 April 2016 10:46 (eight years ago) link
uh, lockheed i mean. never realised how similar their names are before!
― a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 April 2016 10:47 (eight years ago) link
Speaking of Marvel names with "lock" in htem, I only recently found out why Psylocke was thus named... Apparently it's an incredibly convoluted pun:
What does a psyche open?A psylock.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 14 April 2016 11:56 (eight years ago) link
Yeeesh. Wasn't she created by Delano? That seems excessively punny for him.
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 12:04 (eight years ago) link
I'm pretty sure Claremont created her as a character, though maybe not the name? Betsy Braddock has been around since the old Cap Britain comics of the 70s that Claremont wrote, but I'm not sure when they started calling her Psylocke... Maybe that was Delano?
― Tuomas, Thursday, 14 April 2016 12:07 (eight years ago) link
Seems it was Claremont who chose the name too:
In New Mutants Annual #2 (1986), Claremont integrated Braddock into the X-Men franchise. The story sees her abducted to the Mojoverse, where she is subjected to brainwashing, fitted with bionic eyes, and referred to as "the Psylocke" for the first time.
That's totally a Claremontian pun, though IIRC that New Mutants Annual (or any other comic by Claremont) doesn't actually explain it as a pun, you're supposed to figure it out yourself.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 14 April 2016 12:11 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I never read or heard that before. And you are correct, she was in the old Captain Britain comics, but she was just Brian's normal human sister and I think Delano was the one who made her a mutant.
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:03 (eight years ago) link
yeah, that sounds correct to me. delano and alan davis also scarred me for life when i was like eight and read the captain britain story where she's blinded by slaymaster:
http://www.littlestuffedbull.com/images/2013/psylocke/capbritain2-13c.jpg
that final panel is indelible in my mind
― a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link
This conversation has made me go back through Betsy's history and MAN did a lot of bizarre, terrible things happen to her
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:32 (eight years ago) link
yeah, even by x-men standards she's been through some shit
― a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:34 (eight years ago) link
Was it Slaymaster who possessed or posed as Brian and (at least) attempted to rape Betsy?
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:35 (eight years ago) link
no, i think that was a brian from an alternate reality - that panel of the assault is another that fucked me up as a kid
― a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:38 (eight years ago) link
That was Kaptain Briton: http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Byron_Bra-Dhok_(Earth-794)
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:39 (eight years ago) link
Gah, can't even imagine reading that as a kid. That was some fucked up shit to see as an adult.
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:41 (eight years ago) link
YUP. That's one of the things where I was reading the history and went "wait WHAT THE FUCK"
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:44 (eight years ago) link
"hey guys, Betsy had to kill somebody again"
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 14 April 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link
Every now and then the thought pops into my head that Psylocke isn't as murderous as the other X-Force characters and I wonder about her inclusion until I remember her actual backstory as opposed to only remembering how she was drawn pre-Siege Perilous
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 14:02 (eight years ago) link
I was thinking the other day about Rick Remender's additions to the mutant/Avengers stories and all told, I think it worked pretty well? He grabbed The World from Morrison's run, added the character of Father, and then managed to spin it into at least two different stories -- the accelerated time X-Force/Apocalypse thing, and the android ascension, tied to the original Human Torch, story in the Secret Avengers plot. And then he kind of merged the two -- with Deathloks!
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 14 April 2016 14:50 (eight years ago) link
for all the (deserved IMO) press Hickman gets, Remender did some stuff that was equally impressive in that same time frame IMO
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link
i'm way behind on avengers / x-men but that sounds agreeably batshit
I really liked remender's 'captain America gains a son in another dimension' arc
― a lad of balls (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:08 (eight years ago) link
Yes. The first stretch of his Marvel Now! Cap and Uncanny Avengers runs are all the Remender I've read, somehow. Oh, and his brief Secret Avengers run! That was good, too. I guess he's done with Marvel for the time being?
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link
I think Hickman is a bit better at that thing, at creating his own little fiefdom over several titles with Manifolds, Doctor Dooms, Sols Hammers, and all that. But yeah, Remender definitely was good at it as well. I did not read anything he did after AvX, though, is it good?
Gillen's work with Loki is up there as well.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link
I'm still very impressed with the worldbuilding in Pak's Planet Hulk et al. When I first saw the attendant handbook, it seemed clear that the dude had spent like the five previous years prepping his Hulk pitch.
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link
And Abnett and Lanning's cosmic stuff! It's been a good era for big stories.
― I Pith On Your Quip (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:23 (eight years ago) link
Axis was ehhh, but I can let that go
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:26 (eight years ago) link
The big problem with Axis was that it went on for waaaay too long (and I think everyone forgot that Havok was still inverted before the universe blew up)
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:29 (eight years ago) link
the inversion thing was pretty half-assed, I have the feeling it was pitched and a few projects (Iron Man, Carnage) were spun off, a few characters were conveniently changed for use in different titles (Sabretooth) and the rest of it was just kind of hand-wavey
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:33 (eight years ago) link
I also thought it was incredibly poor timing to have the mantle of Captain America pass over to Sam Wilson just in time to turn him into an honorless, murdering bastard as part of a widely-hyped company-wide crossover.
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:35 (eight years ago) link
very bad
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 14 April 2016 15:36 (eight years ago) link