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It's just Helvetica or something.

There are vague similarities in the sense that futura and the grotesks are sans serif, but futura is a very distinctive geometric font ("o", bowl of "a", all curves, etc. are perfect circle sections), which is very far from true of helvetica, akzidenz, etc. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sans-serif#Classification.

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:19 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I forget about old-school Helvetica b/c I've been using Helvetica Neue for so long that that is what I picture when I think "Helvetica" these days. I'm a bit envious of your typography knowledge, caek. I should take a class or something (again, if there are any books on the subject you would recommend..)

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Only started 7 hours ago, and I already feel way late to this fantastic thread.

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:30 (fifteen years ago) link

if you can tell the difference between helvetica neue and helvetica you're doing better than me!

this is the best book about typography going: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Elements-Typographic-Style-Robert-Bringhurst/dp/0881792063. there are maybe better books to learn about the kind of typography done in the sort of advertising/artwork on this thread.

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

(xp)

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

xp This will go on for years, you know. :)

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, there are better threads for the type nerds to thrash this out. back to images!

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:34 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3443/3223860429_244c24e37c_o.jpg

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:36 (fifteen years ago) link

The Blue Note album covers are a go-to, I'll just get some favorites out of the way early.

http://www001.upp.so-net.ne.jp/gako-oku/Modern.files/Dexter2.jpg

A little bit cute, but not TOO cute, you know?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_Lpkcc1bATi4/R5XrvbMNwEI/AAAAAAAAAM8/cOliCyTL1CI/s320/Horace-Parlan-Us-Three-362664.jpg

Yes.

http://bp2.blogger.com/_G9FtQLF2VFE/SA3GNC-b_LI/AAAAAAAAATU/QgJrHzrarg0/s400/cover.jpg

Yeah ok, it's better for type nerds, but this is a perfect album cover. (Helps that it's a perfect album.)

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:43 (fifteen years ago) link

do you know this? http://www.gokudo.co.jp/Record/BlueNote1/index.htm

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:48 (fifteen years ago) link

is there a thread for blue note sleeves? if not, there really should be. I mean those are sort of a thing unto themselves (not that they don't belong here, there are so many great ones that they could easily consume the thread)

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:51 (fifteen years ago) link

xp Now I do. Thnks.

I think my dad had this book.

http://www.chrismasto.com/delicious/images/236

The die is plaid! Everything is plaid! What kind of a god...

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:53 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost I think that was a hot thing when my dad was a teenager, books about how AMAZING numbers are. Because if he didn't have that book, he had ten other just like it.

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost Whoa, those are great

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago) link

whoa

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:00 (fifteen years ago) link

I have used the eyedropper tool to get this exact shade of orange many times:

http://www.farmidable.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/mccallsfurref.jpg

http://www.farmidable.com/2008/11/11/how-to-books-from-the-1950s

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:01 (fifteen years ago) link

man, book companies don't even try anymore do they

fucken cumlord (omar little), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

lol at futura on that 1956 gardner book. i guess i was wrong.

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:02 (fifteen years ago) link

they do ok, xp: http://bookcoverarchive.com/

caek, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

'72 but whatever - if he can get away with that, I'm going to say fuck it and post this ('73) just cuz:

http://covers.fwis.com/images/items/562.jpg

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:06 (fifteen years ago) link

So perfectly unnerving.

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:07 (fifteen years ago) link

I dunno why I posted the jpeg upthread, when I could have just as easily posted this:

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:12 (fifteen years ago) link

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:14 (fifteen years ago) link

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2060/2083543382_3f70e72b08.jpg?v=0

^^^short film about solar energy by saul bass

fucken cumlord (omar little), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

this thread is a goddamn goldmine

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:15 (fifteen years ago) link

Not all within the specific timespan but lots are. Saves me having to put loads of Penguin covers up.
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/119/308973659_3ecc693cf3.jpg
See the whole thing big here

Ned Trifle II, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:18 (fifteen years ago) link

when did tabloid newspapers (chiefly The Sun) start using Futura (Bold Condensed) for headlines?

Hard House SugBanton (blueski), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:29 (fifteen years ago) link

Maurice Binder's opening titles to Arabesque

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:32 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img.ffffound.com/static-data/assets/6/bf7fc0ffaf38f5954082332e56052b23573ab416_m.jpg

Fortune used to have the greatest covers ever. Now it's just bullshit CEO....

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:39 (fifteen years ago) link

http://www.cafes.net/ditch/wilkins.jpg

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Awesome run here ET

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 19:52 (fifteen years ago) link

There's more, I just have to get some lunch!

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Elvis has the stash

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link

caek: Treumann font is Clarendon btw

SORCEROUSES..roll on stage! (Pillbox), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link

The 1962 Seattle Worlds Fair is interesting as it's when the first bits of 60s-era modernism leak into the pop culture stream. Half of the fair's artifacts are 50s-era illustration and half are 60s Jet Age Modern.

Examples... This:

http://imagecache.allposters.com/images/pic/FIP/WA-00390-D%7ESpace-Needle-Seattle-World-s-Fair-Posters.jpg

versus

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3125/2899246248_c793377b23.jpg

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 22:17 (fifteen years ago) link

Vintage Penguin rules so hard

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1299/570934417_3b0bcf4567.jpg

Carroll Shelby Downard (Elvis Telecom), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link

caek: Treumann font is Clarendon btw

Oh Clarendon. Talk about thin line between love and hate. Can you still think a font is attractive when it's on the side of half the buses in the city advertising Starbucks' new instant coffee? Or in the TV ad for Madea Goes to Jail? (Really there are a million examples... it's fucking everywhere. It was four years ago, but now it's really out of hand.)

tits akimbo (kenan), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 22:24 (fifteen years ago) link


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