ha ha ha you're an idiot
MJ has written and sung much better songs about his pathologies; it's got nothing to do with sanctioning them. You're the guy bringing Ted Bundy into this when it's a worthless comparison.
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
Did I miss the MJ songs about cuddling with kids and loving his chimpanzee/giraffe and his Peter Pan fetish?
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:11 (fourteen years ago) link
"Morphine" and "Heal The World" have something to say about chimp-love.
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
jesus christ, all of you are doing my head in
― The-Reverend (rev), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:15 (fourteen years ago) link
vote cave/hitler.― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:08 (23 seconds ago) Bookmarkclassic songwriting partnership imo.
― FREE DOM AND ETHAN (special guest stars mark bronson), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:08 (23 seconds ago) Bookmark
classic songwriting partnership imo.
lol
― AleXTC, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:16 (fourteen years ago) link
vote cave/hitler.
― joe, Tuesday, April 14, 2009 12:09 PM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
LOL'd very hard
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i voted nick just cuz i listen to him more and i'm not going to think about it beyond that
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:19 (fourteen years ago) link
i've never heard a nick cave song, i don't think? not intentionally, anyway. i still voted for nick cave.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:20 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Alfred: the zombies in Thriller represent the children with whom he had improper relations.
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:26 (fourteen years ago) link
then there's that Liberian girl.
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:29 (fourteen years ago) link
leave me alone with ben
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:32 (fourteen years ago) link
and obviously, the P.Y.T...
― AleXTC, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Nick Cave's badass schtick is more convincing than MJ's ... MJ is only convincing as a badass to those 10 years and younger.
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:34 (fourteen years ago) link
He got flat babyKick in the back babyA heart attack babyI need your body
A hot kiss honeyHe's just a bitch babyYou make me sick babySo unrelying
I'm such a swine babyAll down the line daddyI hate your kind babySo unreliable
A hot buzz babyHe's one of us babyAnother drug babyYou so desire
Trust in meTrust in mePut all your trust in meYou're doin' morphine
Hoo!
They got place babyKicked in the face babyYou hate your race babyYou're just a liar
Your every lick babyYour dog's a bitch babyYou make me sick babyYou soul survivor
She never cut from meShe never cut babyI had to work babyYou just a rival
Always to please daddyRight up and leave daddyYou're thorwing shame daddySo undesirable
Trust in meJust in mePut all your trsut in meYou're doin' morphine
Go'on babe
RelaxThis won't hurt youBefore I put it inClose your eyes and count to tenDon't cryI won't convert youThere's no need to dismayClose your eyes and drift away
DemerolDemerolOh God he's taking demerolDemerolDemerolOh God he's taking demerol
He's triedHard to convince herTo be over what he hadToday he wants it twice as badDon't cryI won't resent youYesterday you had his trustToday he's taking twice as much
DemerolDemerolOh God he's taking demerolHee-hee-heeDemerolDemerolOh my Oh God it's DemerolHeeOooh
Oh!
He got shit babyYour dog's a bitch babyYou make me sick babyYou are a liar
Is truth a game daddyTo win the fame babyIt's all the same babyYou're so reliable
Trust in meTrust in mePut all your trust in meShe's doin' morphine
You just sit around just talkin' nothingYou're takin' morphineHoo!Go'on babyYou just sit around just talking about itYou're takin' morphineHoo-hoo!Just sit around just talking nothing about itYou're takin' morphineYou just sit around just talking about itYou're taking morphineYou just sit around just talkin' nothin'And takin' morphine
Hoo-hooI'm going down babyYou're talkin' Morphine
Go'on baby!Hoo!Hoo!Morphine!Do it!Hoo!He's takin' morphineMorphine!Morphine!
― I'm crossing over into enterprise (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:35 (fourteen years ago) link
xhuxk got it right, Cave is awkward and often kitsch. He's had some good moments but he's barely doing anything compared to MJ. Cave covering MJ would be miserable. Unfair match up.
― ogmor, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Nick Cave's badass schtick is more convincing than MJ's ... MJ is only convincing as a badass to those 10 years and younger
Whereas Nick Cave's only convincing as a badass to those 38 years and older
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 16:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Cave is awkward and often kitsch
Oh yes, `cos MJ isn't awkward at all, is he.
But Cave got a lot more ridiculous a lot sooner after that
Oh yes, `cos MJ isn't ridiculous at all, is he.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:11 (fourteen years ago) link
am i alone in sort of loving nick in ridiculous mode?
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:12 (fourteen years ago) link
xp M@tt: you're not alone!
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:17 (fourteen years ago) link
okay good, cuz dudes in this thread is all like OMG nick cave is just hopped up campy pseudosoutherngothic doomy claptrap!!! and it feels like people wandered into an ac/dc thread and started complaining about them using loud guitars
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Nick's arguable "ridiculousness" is evidently relative. Personally speaking, I think the current, porn-moustachioed Cave is a helluva lot more ridiculous than the smack-addled Cave, but that's me.
Either way, he's incalculably superior to Michael Jackson, who is simply objectionable shit on every conceivable level.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
you know whos great is nate dogg
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:21 (fourteen years ago) link
you ain't kiddin' homie
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:22 (fourteen years ago) link
okay good, cuz dudes in this thread is all like OMG nick cave is just hopped up campy pseudosoutherngothic doomy claptrap!!!
On the contrary, it's the fact that he's a load of fucking boring middle-aged crud for 42 year old Goths
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
just like ILM, amrite???!?!?
― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:24 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Alex in NYC: the only thing I find non-objectionable shitty about Michael Jackson's adult career is the zombies in the Thriller video. However, those zombies weren't as good as the ones in Land of the Dead
George Romero >>> Michael Jackson
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:25 (fourteen years ago) link
I only recently decided that Nick Cave didn't completely suck, mostly because I only recently heard The Birthday Party.
Michael Jackson was a staple artist in my household from before I was born.
― I can sit in my car all day, and that doesn't make me a car. (HI DERE), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:26 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Tom D: from what period are you marking as "fucking boring middle-aged crud"? Birthday Party is definitely not boring middle-aged crud, and the first decade of Bad Seeds albums aren't either
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:27 (fourteen years ago) link
lol max
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Did he touch you in funny places when you were a fetus?
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:29 (fourteen years ago) link
btw tom having been a vikings season ticket holder for 10 years i can listen to whatever homo musik i want and not be a goth, membership has its priviledges
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:30 (fourteen years ago) link
xp He made crafts at the Perry house with a staple gun.
― Alex in SF, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:32 (fourteen years ago) link
get a new joke
xp
― goole, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
xp2 actually
The Birthday Party were awesome. Early Bad Seeds bit crappy, in retrospect, then got a bit better, downhill from then on.
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:33 (fourteen years ago) link
In contrast, MJ awesome at numerous points in a career that started when he was 7 years old, or sumthin'
― Sacco, Vanzetti, Passantino... (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:34 (fourteen years ago) link
xp Tom D: when is then? Bad Seeds definitely had a more brutal/rocking phase and I lost interest when they got more lugubrious ballad-y - somewhere in the late 90s.
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Why does Michael Jackson like 27-year olds?
Because there are 20 of them.
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
doesn't work in numerics
― Old Big 'OOS (AKA the Cupwinner) (darraghmac), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:40 (fourteen years ago) link
^^ yeah, you're right - doesn't work as well written down. The big hand/little hand joke does though.
― photoshop your disgusting ass partner into passive-aggressive notes (sarahel), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:42 (fourteen years ago) link
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:12
Another day has gone I'm still all alone How could this be You're not here with me You never said goodbye Someone tell me why Did you have to go And leave my world so cold
Everyday I sit and ask myself How did love slip away Something whispers in my ear and says That you are not alone For I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay
You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart You are not alone
All alone Why, oh
Just the other night I thought I heard you cry Asking me to come And hold you in my arms I can hear your prayers Your burdens I will bear But first I need your hand So forever can begin
Everyday I sit and ask myself How did love slip away Then something whispers in my ear and says That you are not alone For I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay For you are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart And you are not alone
Whisper three words and I'll come runnin' And girl you know that I'll be there I'll be there
You are not alone I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay You are not alone I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart
You are not alone For I am here with you Though you're far away I am here to stay For you are not alone For I am here with you Though we're far apart You're always in my heart
For you are not alone
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Michael Jackson jokes make me sad. I think he's a good guy.
― fillibustar superstar! (Abbott), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
i read an interview w/nick cave a few years ago in which he said he goes to an office 9-5 to write his material nowadays, and i was like, it shows. the only NC album i have any real affection for is the boatman's call, which i guess isn't really representative, but he has seemed to just rehash his schtick over and over again for most of this decade. every album sounds the same. so if you're comparing their declines, it's a decline into boring middle age and lack of ideas vs decline into being a tragic clown and figure of fun. and if you're comparing their peaks it's not really fair.
― lex pretend, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 17:58 (fourteen years ago) link
mj at his best obv, but this thread makes me want to listen to the birthday party a hell of a lot more than MJ.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
the idea of MJ not committing a lot of "method-acting" and "kitsch" to wax is pretty lol and rockist ("Demerol" vs. "Mutiny In Heaven"), though its rarely "dead-assed" true.
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm a huge Nick Cave fan but God do I ever hate the Boatman's Call
― Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:16 (fourteen years ago) link
i watched that nick cave best-of dvd and the descent to neil diamondhood is pretty omg
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
not that he hasn't started making something out of that
― da croupier, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link
<3 that song : )
always forget how damn tall he is!
― wassup rockers? (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link
What, and that makes him infalible or something? Hell, the fuckin' Carpenters were extolled as demigods in my household before I was born, and I'd sooner drop sulfuric acid in my eyes than listen to that crap.
― Alex in NYC, Tuesday, 14 April 2009 18:42 (fourteen years ago) link