Would read
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
Also remember outside of the states the July 4th stuff plays as comedy, 100%
This reminds me of something I've been thinking about for a while. All the foreign films that make it to the US and get reviewed by the mainstream press seem to be of the "good for you" variety - earnest dramas about prejudice and sorrow, heartfelt tales of the human condition, blah blah blah. But I'm convinced other countries produce just as many dumbshit popcorn movies as America, proportionally - I just never hear about them. So in other countries' big dumb action movies, is there the same amount of hyperbolic nationalism and flag-waving? Is there a French equivalent to Michael Bay? And without totally hijacking this thread, what are the stupidest, most crowd-pleasingly boneheaded foreign movies folks can think of that I might want/need to see?
― the top man in the language department (誤訳侮辱), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
Feel like American chauvinism expressed via Hollywood is a fairly distinct phenomenon with few analogues? But as regards dumbshit patriotic films we could be here all day
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link
xp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yysbbPStfWw
― emil.y, Friday, 25 March 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
There was also a Sylvester Stallone disaster movie in 1996 or 1997 where people got caught in a car tunnel, I remember seeing that one at the cinema.
― Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 17:01 (eight years ago) link
Daylight!
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link
That came just after cliffhanger - in both he plays a character haunted by flashbacks of a disaster he failed to prevent
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link
Oh yeah, Daylight, that was from 1996 too.
It seems weird that several neo-disaster movies came out in 1996 already: Daylight, Tornado!, Independence Day, Twister... Considering the production time for your regular feature, it seems like there should be some ur-example that inspired this fad? Maybe it was indeed Jurassic Park? Or Speed? Or maybe they were all already anticipating Titanic, which must've been in the works for quite some time?
― Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
xp and that disaster was called "Stop! Or My Mom Will Shoot!"
THANK YOU AND GOODNIGHT
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link
xpost Was the success of Titanic always a foregone conclusion, though? I mean, the odds were in its favour--Cameron had been having a monster 90s (correct me if I'm wrong, but I think The Abyss was his only major film that underperformed according to expectations), but it was still a wildly expensive production featuring two non-superstar leads. Hard to imagine now, of course, but I think there was always the potential for it to flop.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 25 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
Everyone thought it would flop iirc.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 25 March 2016 17:53 (eight years ago) link
Including me (and my parents), when we saw it during its like first or second week. Like people in the theatre (a suburban multiplex, not at all some hipster enclave) were laughing at the dialogue, Billy Zane's acting, etc.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Friday, 25 March 2016 18:00 (eight years ago) link
Dark city, matrix, existenz, gattica
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Friday, 25 March 2016 18:09 (eight years ago) link
Yeah famously it had been building up a follywood rep before its release xxp
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Friday, 25 March 2016 18:10 (eight years ago) link
there were 2 near-simultaneous Hitchcock biopics a couple of years ago
seem to recall 2 Truman Capote biopics a couple of years before that?
― disco Polo (Noodle Vague), Friday, 25 March 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
Yep
Despicable me and megamind
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Friday, 25 March 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
megamind wasn't about truman capote
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Friday, 25 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
black hawk down / behind enemy lines (both 2001)
― Laertiades (imago), Friday, 25 March 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Braveheart (1995)Rob Roy (1995)
― calzino, Friday, 25 March 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link
dont tell me there's some comic book guy called the Magician
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 March 2016 19:34 (eight years ago) link
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_large/0/3125/1197318-fb19.jpg
― Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 19:58 (eight years ago) link
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/e/e5/Zatara_001.jpg
― Tuomas, Friday, 25 March 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link
The Double (2013, adapted from Dostoevsky's The Double)Enemy (2013, adapted from Saramago's The Double)
Both deal with doppelgängers and identity.
― emil.y, Saturday, 26 March 2016 15:42 (eight years ago) link
Nice! That's a perennial of course. Does anyone remember double take, the film about Hitchcock, Borges and doubles? Written by Tom McCarthy!
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link
The Football Factory (2004)Green Street (2005)
Followed by hundreds of terrible football hooligan films available at tesco
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link
you can find some of those films if you scroll right to the very very bottom of netflix's british films list
― Laertiades (imago), Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link
i have never watched one but it strikes me as the sort of thing one might do in pursuit of the fake real
― Laertiades (imago), Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link
Platoon (1986)Full Metal Jacket (1987)Good Morning, Vietnam (1987)Hamburger Hill (1987)
There are shitloads more from the 80's Nam boom, but these were the Oscar bothering type ones that ran concurrently.
― calzino, Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:25 (eight years ago) link
Hmm, the academy stopped liking Kubrick after Barry Lyndon, and FMJ only got one nod, for Screenplay, so I dunno if I would count it as "Oscar bothering." Also, while FMJ is the only one out of the three of those that I've seen (never saw HH) that I actually like, any trend that can swing as wildly from FMJ to GMV has something more going on in it than the usual spikes in the popularity of disaster flicks.
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:41 (eight years ago) link
yeah i mean, kinda not very surprising that there would be movies about vietnam being made in the 1980s!
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:45 (eight years ago) link
they were probably attempting to bother the oscars I should have said, fuck 'em anyway cos Barry Lyndon is a great movie.
― calzino, Saturday, 26 March 2016 16:53 (eight years ago) link
World Trade Center (2006)United 93 (2006)
― Rainer Weirder Faßbooker (wins), Saturday, 26 March 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link
there was a Flight 93 in 2006 too!
― Laertiades (imago), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
let's roll (the cameras!)
Went The Day Well (1942)Saboteur (1942)
― calzino, Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link
oops forgot the question mark
― calzino, Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
Deep Star Six (1989)Leviathan (1989)
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:17 (eight years ago) link
Oh, man:
Terminal Velocity (1994)Drop Zone (1994)
Competing skydiving thrillers!
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link
Without Limits (1998)Prefontaine (1997)
(Both pretty good, actually)
Mission to Mars(2000)Red Planet (2000)
― Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:20 (eight years ago) link
touching the void was alas a full 3 years after vertical limit xp
― Laertiades (imago), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
In The Last Starfighter (July 84), a humanoid space-fighter pilot teams up with a vaguely reptilian alien; through adversity they become close friends.
In Enemy Mine (Dec. 85), a humanoid space-fighter pilot teams up with a vaguely reptilian alien; through adversity they become close friends.
― living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:23 (eight years ago) link
too much distance and it basically ends up being casablanca --> to have and have not, the latter film clearly riffing on the former, maybe improving massively on it etc
― Laertiades (imago), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-iSjnlF6CQBc/Tk67Fu8mpAI/AAAAAAAAENo/pVW7VEdIuXA/s1600/liz%2Bman2.jpg xp
― living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:27 (eight years ago) link
BTW To Have and Have Not is a fun movie. Was you ever but by a dead bee? Put your lips together etc.
― living colour me badd english beat happening (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:30 (eight years ago) link
Two biopics called Harlow in '65
― kevin smith what a bro (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 26 March 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link
also two biopics about isadora duncan in the space of about a year from ken russell & karel reisz.
― no lime tangier, Saturday, 26 March 2016 20:19 (eight years ago) link
In 2003, Ned Kelly, a $30 million budget movie about Kelly's life was released. Directed by Gregor Jordan, and written by John M. McDonagh (brother of Martin McDonagh), it starred Heath Ledger as Kelly, along with Orlando Bloom, Geoffrey Rush, and Naomi Watts. Based on Robert Drewe's book Our Sunshine, the film covers the period from Kelly's arrest for horse theft as a teenager to the gang's armour-clad battle at Glenrowan. It attempts to portray the events from the perspectives of both Kelly and of the authorities responsible for his capture and prosecution and throws in a romance between Kelly and an married upper-class Australian woman. It was not a success; one review dismissed it as fiction.
That same year (2003) a low budget satire movie called Ned was released. Written, directed and starring Abe Forsythe, it depicted the Kelly gang wearing fake beards and tin buckets on their heads.
― no lime tangier, Saturday, 26 March 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link
Was there two westerns with all/mainly female protagonists in the mid/late 90s
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 March 2016 20:36 (eight years ago) link
Even Cowgirls Get the Blues and Bad Girls? (I don't think the former is actually a 'western' but might fit?)
― emil.y, Saturday, 26 March 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link
Sharon stone?
I need to take the time to research this is lazy stuff from me
― Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Saturday, 26 March 2016 21:09 (eight years ago) link