one time there were two magician movies

There is I think a particular term for simultaneous but separate invention/conception, but I can't think of what it is. Anyone?

A Bug's Life (1998)
Antz (1998)

im pretty sure the generic Blart was probably more enjoyable than O&R

Deep Impact
Armaggedon

both 1998

Mirror Mirror (2012)
Snow White and The Huntsman (2012)

does dantes peak (1996) volcano (1997) count?

plausible deniability maybe

or wait the opposite of that

Turner & Hooch (1989)
K-9 (1989)

haha my summer camp took us to see K-9 on a field trip taht year.

^yes indeed that is the paradigmatic example

The end of the 80s also had a lot Vietnam movies come out in rapid succession, but that doesn't really fit squarely into what we're going for here.

Capote (2005)
Infamous (2006)

An American Werewolf In London and The Howling and Wolfen (1981)

My Dinner With Andre and Bustin' Loose (1981)

hercules
the legend of hercules

!!

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First Daughter (2004)
Chasing Liberty (2004)

Hoop Dreams
Poop Dreams

i always mix those up

Tombstone (1993)
Wyatt Earp (1994)

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/DuelingWorks/Film

i seen one of the magician movies it was fucken stupid i can only imagine how fucken stupid the other magician movie is with alfie zulu in it

They're both okay, but the twist in the Edward Norton one is easy to guess, and since half of the movie rests on that "shocking" revelation, it kinda diminishes it. Whereas the the two major twists in the Christian Bale/Hugh Jackman one genuinely come out of the left field, which makes it more fun to watch, if not super memorable.

Can't remember the Norton one, but I guessed the Prestige twist and it didn't affect my enjoyment of it. Also I didn't know a certain cameo was going to be in it so that really made my day.

the prestige was so good.

There was even a third magician movie around the same time, by the peep show guys

Another borderline case:

The Truman Show (1998)
EDTV (1999)

Probably much too far apart to count but...
Porridge (1979)
Escape to Victory (1981)

Robin hoods

Famously there was a British Robin Hood film that ended up being completely eclipsed by prince of thieves

Xpost!

Feels weird to include that because there have probably been years when there have been like 7 Robin Hood films produced

War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0407304/
The War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0425638/
War of the Worlds (2005) - http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0449040/

the first one is the Tom Cruise one, the second is the english version set at the same time as the book, the third is a knock-off rushed out on video ahead of the Cruise version to confuse people into buying it.

The General (1998)
Ordinary Decent Criminal (2000)

Both based on Irish gangster Martin Cahill

I thought it was normal to have certain themes be popular in certain years. Not sure what determines it , unless it is just competition within the industry. Or industries, do publishing houses do similar?

a second time there were two magician movies

the incredible burt wonderstone (2013)
now you see me (2013)

Because they were such anomalies at the time (two psycho-killer movies today wouldn't be notable), and because of the stature of the two directors, Psycho and Peeping Tom, both 1960.

I watched the British Robin Hood movie a few years ago, and it was really quite good, certainly better than Prince of Thieves. Possibly even the best Robin Hood feature film since the Errol Flynn era?

i kind of feel like

things to do in denver when you're dead (1995)
the usual suspects (1995)

should qualify but there were so many, so many tarantino knockoffs produced in the 90s that at least two of them would necessarily (emphasis) had to have bryan ferry, with his floppy, insouciant hair and sharply, elegantly disarrayed suits, as a former gangster trying to go straight but he's dragged back into the crimeworld for one last job to save his flailing enterprise but it goes disastrously wrong with an ensemble cast and interpersonal quibbling and banter that i'm not really sure if it does.

Another one that's maybe a bit of a stretch but I think fits: the two grand-diva movies of 1950, Sunset Boulevard and All About Eve.

California Split and The Gambler, 1974.

Catch-22 and MASH, 1970--not just war films, but a very specific kind of Strangelove absurdist black comedy.

Also both given a "not Vietnam, but we're really talking about Vietnam" gloss by their directors.

The Prestige has Bowie-as-Tesla in it
The Illusionist is a bad movie but has Philip Glass' best score ever

bridget jones' diary (2001)
legally blonde (200))

a blonde zaftig protagonist shows up at a party dressed in a bunny costume because they thought it was a costume party but it wasn't, but she wins the day despite things

The Illusionist wasn't even the best movie named The Illusionist in recent times

legally blonde also 2001, not 200)

Catch-22 and MASH, 1970--not just war films, but a very specific kind of Strangelove absurdist black comedy.

― clemenza, Friday, March 25, 2016 9:11 AM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

speaking of, Strangelove and Fail Safe prob fit

Lambada (1990)
The Forbidden Dance (1990)

Breakin' (1984)
Beat Street (1984)

Like Father Like Son (October 1987)
Vice Versa (March 1988)
Big (June 1988)

18 Again! (April 1988)

The new inspirational movies are about how moguls starting making bank. Assume the bezos one is coming soon. Maybe an "irreverent" one about musk in a decade or so.

Just back from BlackBerry--definitely lots of overlap with Air, starting with a note to myself to take a break from films where people shout at each other for two hours (BlackBerry the much more egregious offender on that count).

Also that there's a Mario movie, a Tetris movie, a DnD movie and a Barbie movie all out at the same time. Not exactly the same, but seeing them all up there on the cinema board was like a list of "Christmas most wanted list 1988"

I have no idea what this Blackberry movie is going to entail, but I'm just imagining someone looking up with a mad look in their eyes during a boardroom brainstorming session saying: "Wait a minute, I've got it. Let's include ALL the letters"

I'll have to figure out a thread for posting about it, but it really wore me down before long.

Lol dog Latin

After the great cultural achievement that is Minecraft: The Movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHY8NKj3RKs

I am just gonna hold out for Candy Crush III: the Crushening

Minecraft, Minesweeper, whatever

Frogger 2: The Froggening was pretty good tho

That Minesweeper thing is great

Remember: Mine is money.

In the tradition of "Air" and "Blackberry," I just saw a trailer for "Flamin' Hot," a movie about Cheetos.

Can’t tell if serious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=it7sNRloq-A

when there's a movie about Flamin' Hot Monster Munch, I'll allow it in this thread

I completely forgot that I saw a David O. Russell movie about a mop.

can't wait for the Swiss Cheese origin story

there are two different kinds of pastry known as nun farts: pets de nonne from france, and pets de sœurs from canada

there are probably many documentary films online about nun farts but i expect they are unrelated

The great thing about the Flamin' Hot movie is that the story it's based on is, of course, wrong

https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-05-16/flamin-hot-cheetos-richard-montanez

Flamin’ Hots were created by a team of hotshot snack food professionals starting in 1989

they should make a movie about this, too, and just have sooooo much cocaine in it

o snap i guess they already did:

An internal promotional video for the Cheetos brand from the first quarter of 1991 serves as further proof that Flamin’ Hots were already out in the world.

The nearly nine-minute video, which Lukaska shared with The Times, is a Day-Glo green-and-pink time capsule, with Frito-Lay execs in fashionably baggy suits touting the latest and greatest snack aimed at kids, Cheetos Paws. At one point, two DDB Needham advertising executives perform a “New Jack City”-era rap about the coolness of Chester himself. Flamin’ Hots appear in the video for less than a second, in a rapid-fire slideshow set to MC Hammer’s “U Can’t Touch This,” alongside two other minor brands of the day, Cheetos Curls and Cheetos Light.

Every once in a while, my career puts me in touch with people who do things like that (devise and market snack foods, novelty ice cream products, energy beverages, etc.).

I do kind of wonder what their inner lives are like, and whether they laugh or cry when they reflect on the sheer silliness of it.

A few examples:

I worked for the person who came up with the slogan "soup is good food." Research indicated that mothers had underlying anxiety about feeding children meals that had not been prepared from scratch; Campbell's play was to alleviate this using the simplest, most direct possible language. The underlying lesson, I think, was that sometimes a lack of cleverness is a type of cleverness.

Much later I worked with the people who came up with the Taki's box-with-one-chip-in-it campaign. Ordinarily, companies want to communicate value, bounty, abundance. This was an instance where a manufacturer decided to go the opposite direction and sell scarcity.

There is a nice poem by Stephen Dunn with a line about how helping National Biscuit sell biscuits is wildly comic. https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/browse?contentId=36748

this all just reminds me when they made a big-budget movie based on the battleship board game and everybody was like "a movie based on a BOARD GAME god movies really have sunk to a new low", and all i could think of was how people said the same thing when the movie based on the board game clue came out in 1985. plus it had three different endings depending on which print you saw. total gimmick film.

except of course that film is fucking AMAZING.

if you make a good film on a stupid premise it will probably take longer for it to get appreciated but it will probably eventually become a cult classic. see also for instance the wachowskis making a film on the pretty bad '60s anime "speed racer" or rian johnson inexplicably deciding to make a movie in the trashy "star wars" series of films

I worked for the person who came up with the slogan "soup is good food." Research indicated that mothers had underlying anxiety about feeding children meals that had not been prepared from scratch; Campbell's play was to alleviate this using the simplest, most direct possible language. The underlying lesson, I think, was that sometimes a lack of cleverness is a type of cleverness.

― sane clown posse (Ye Mad Puffin)

a classic counterexample, someone who came up with ideas too clever for their own good, is stan freberg. he came up with this extremely elaborate busby berkeley extravaganza to promote a line of soups called the "great american soup" intended to compete with campbell's... people saw the ad and thought it was for campbell's soup. also see his ad campaign for the airline company that had just had some high-profile crashes... sophistication and irony are maybe not the best qualities for an ad campaign... it was nice to see daniel clowes getting work mind you.

Good post Kate.

Now I feel like maybe we have enough material to make a musical about canned food, which will be called...

Wait for it...

SOUP OPERA.

that made me think Ouija Boards were originally a board "game" made by Parker Brothers and imdb lists

1. Ouija: Origin of Evil (2016)
2. Ouija (II) (2014)
3. Ouija House (2018)
4. Ouija Seance: The Final Game (2018 TV Movie)

so we are back on topic 8)

the second Ouija was actually really fucking good.

Elvis (2022) & Priscilla (2023)

Oh no, but he’s not a hero

Indies about three dopey dudes who thieves and pull off a big heist after some enept smaller robberies: Bottle Rocket and Palookaville, both 1996

"who become thieves and try to pull off a major heist" & "inept smaller robberies "

The two O.J. projects (F/X series + 8-hour ESPN documentary). O.J.: Made in America screened at Sundance on Jan. 22, 2016; The People v. O. J. Simpson: American Crime Story debuted on Feb. 2, 2016, 11 days later.

https://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=41

lol

Hah

I thought this was going to be about

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From 2011:

“La Guerre des Boutons” (“The War of the Buttons”) is a comedic remake of a 1962 blockbuster about spirited boys fighting with catapults and wooden swords. It was released Wednesday in French theaters.

But in an unprecedented development here, a more melodramatic film of the same story, with the similar title “La Nouvelle Guerre des Boutons” (“The New War of the Buttons”), comes out just a week later.

Both scripts are based on the same book, “La Guerre des Boutons,” written in 1912 by Louis Pergaud. Both have the same co-producer, the privately owned television channel TF1, and the same budget, about 13 million euros, or nearly $18 million.

https://www.critique-film.fr/la-guerres-des-boutons-2-films-differents/

https://archive.is/IIjHG

I suppose this sort of thing is going to keep happening as books fall out of copyright

a 1912 book by someone who died in 1915 would've been public domain for a while though

for some reason it didn’t enter the public domain until 2010, not sure why

Once upon a time there were two Jean Harlow biopics released five weeks apart:

Harlow (1965)
Harlow (1965)

came on here to post this but emil.y beat me to it 8 years ago lol

emil.y at 3:42 26 Mar 16
The Double (2013, adapted from Dostoevsky's The Double)
Enemy (2013, adapted from Saramago's The Double)
Both deal with doppelgängers and identity.

RIP Christopher Priest, without whom there would have only been one magician movie.

RIP. He wrote a lot of great stuff.

I have yet to watch the movie or read the book, been saving it up.

Still need to finish Nina Allan’s The Rift as well, which starts out grebt.

Immaculate
The First Omen

Haha I just said the same thing to my friend.

Bizarre how similar they are

Not just in "nun" premise but the first half hour of movie too