Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

Worf's quarters aboard the Enterprise D are interesting. Everything either has multiple sharp points, or is an uncomfortable chair.
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kirk's sf apartment was my first thought and yeah whenever they need to they just replicate up some more bayfront property. would also like a tiny curtained meditation annex like spock has to his quarters. a thing on tng that i do like is the slim windows into space directly above the bunks.

Started watching TOS episodes for more or less the first time ever. Four out of the five so far have involved a well choreographed brawl or three. Still, the resolutions have relied on brain as much as brawn.

Then I watched a TNG episode where Riker cooks an omelette for his friends. Data says this is inefficient and Riker tells him a replicator lacks subtlety, flair, and individuality - he then proceeds to make scrambled eggs, and has to scrape them off the bottom of the pan when serving up. This might be the most ludicrous Star Trek scene I've ever come across - compounded by Dr Pulaski saying she's brought 'ale from Ennan Six' which looks more like brandy. Mmm, scrambled omelettes and ale!

I realise 'most ludicrous scene' is a bold claim for a franchise where e.g. two characters 'evolve' into primitive amphibians after exceeding warp 10, but I stand by it. It's the way no-one bats an eye as Riker dishes up his egg abomination, as though not only have they forgotten how to cook, they don't even know what an omelette is anymore.

Wait, take 3: it's ludicrous because the writers and actors and anyone involved with the scene irl apparently have no idea what an omelette is.

It's great that the rest of that episode (Time Squared - unless Riker makes a second omelette in an episode I haven't seen) is super dark and awesome.

I didn't dig it so much, seemed like a lot of standard tropes - mysterious entity! Time travel! Doppelgängers! - thrown together without much panache or originality. However it did have "the theory of the Moebius, a twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop. Where time becomes a loop. Where time where time becomes a loop becomes a loop."

if Kirk used money maybe his hairpiece would look better

oh man Time Squared is one of the best. there is something instinctive and primal about cooking eggs i feel like bad eggs are a good "canary in a coal mine" for when a universe has been thrown off course or is generally behaving spooky.

watched some TNG season 4: "The Loss" is about as enjoyable as any episode could be where the already useless Troi losses her powers and just becomes annoying and grating. there was a side plot about her leaving the ship and i was really hoping it would happen. it's not even necessarily that the plot was bad or uninteresting but by it's nature it essentially turned her into an emo teenager just taking it out on all of her coworkers.

also "Data's Day", kind of fun but you have to suspend your disbelief cos there is no way Data would be living and studying with humans for years and yet be clueless to a human being upset that a wedding was called off. or that sarcasms is a thing that exists. this seems to be a problem w Data, they kind of reboot the character way too often, where it seems like he should be learning from his experiences..

I can't understand not enjoying Time Squared - I mean, I can, because obviously you didn't. But the mix of dayglo goofballishness and scifi and unexpectedly metal moments (Picard murders his own duplicate!) is perfectly distilled TNG (for me).

So hey you guys, surprised no one's been talking about this but the new Star Trek series: a) has Bryan Fuller at the helm (we knew that already), b) is set in the original ST universe and NOT the new movie universe, c) is set chronologically between TOS and TNG, and d) will be a seasonal anthology. It sounds like they're doing this right! I watched very little of Voyager and none of Enterprise but I'm pretty psyched for this one.

It's because of Enterprise that I'm not that psyched about this, tbh. Everything up there sounds good except for being set between TOS and TNG - would much rather they went further into the future for more new stories and characters. I guess we'll be seeing those burgundy uniforms again.

It'd be nice if they could have the ST:TMP uniforms for at least a bit. The whole look of the uniforms and equipment in that movie is great, and foreshadows look of TNG.

oh man Time Squared is one of the best.

I really like this episode. It doesn't matter that the plot elements are a mish-mash of half realised ideas (an entity whose motivations we don't understand other than maybe it's some kind of test). Actually it helps to focus the story on Picard and his reactions to the situation. It's like the TOS episode 'The Enemy Within', where we find out a lot about Kirk through how he deals with what's happened.

Yeah, far future would be best. If you're in the middle ground, you have to deal with the whole touchy not fucking up the ST universe thing, which I'm almost certain they will. Easier to do without those constraints.

Just saw Bride of Chaotica on the weekend, p hilare.

Good ep.

I'm so happy that I'm able to work in Picard's DOB into something at work today.

http://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2016/04/29/patrick-stewart-plays-star-trek-marry-f-kill/

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/74935

2) Rather than confine itself to a single era in Starfleet history, each season of the new series will tackle a different era. Each season could go pre-Archer, post-Janeway, or any timeframe in between.

If this is true, that is AWESOME. I love the idea of each season having its own arc. Feels very Culture-y.

I wonder if they would use the same actors, like American Horror does? Not my preference.

post-Janeway

I want this to be like a Starfleet HQ version of The Office, where Janeway is this backpacker bore type who's going on and on about all the amazing stuff she saw in the Delta Quadrant, while all the other people in the office are gathered around the watercooler complaining about her behind her back.

Janeway: "Did I ever tell you about the time I travelled faster than Warp 10 and turned into a lizard?"
Colleague: "Yes, three times already."
Janeway: "It was amazing..."
Colleague: (thinks) 'I hate my job.'

Colleague 1: "If I hear another of Janeway's Borg stories, I swear I'm going to blow a plasma conduit."
Colleague 2: "Yeah, has she told you the one about how she defeated the Borg Queen with the help of her future self? I can't believe that someone would think we'd fall for a made up story like that."
Colleague 1: "Right, I think it's just a weak attempt to cover up how she stole that armour tech off of some alien species."

Colleague 3: "Dude, watch out. Janeway is super pissed off."
Colleague 4: "Why?"
Colleague 3: "She got 7 Of 9 to hack into the secret Starfleet message board and found the poll thread called 'who was the biggest bullshitter: Archer or Janeway?'."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE

what can you say about a logo reveal?

i guess the music is kinda nice. keeping it classy.

Yeah, that is the teasingist of teasers...

only thing i really got from it was that it'll debut on CBS?

i think first ep on cbs, then the rest of it is locked into cbs's new netflix-type thing

Please no.

in other words it's torrents only

finally finished DS9 after a year and a half of slow progress through it. very strange final sequence but "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" might have been my favorite episode of all so i'm glad i stuck it through

congrats :)

now time to figure out what the good voyager episodes are i aint watching every ep of that shit

I was thinking there was a twitter follow-up to this for voyager but I'm not finding it:
https://twitter.com/fart/status/466076006499905537

i don't think jon fucks with voyager iirc but i'm sure someone else out there has made one

some here https://liztellsfrank.com/category/tv/skip-itwatch-it-guide-tv/ but they seem generous with the Watch Its.

Very weird: http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2016/06/23/your-star-trek-fan-films-are-now-legally-in-the-clear

i watched 'the thaw' the other day and that final scene really stuck with me, good stuff

i've definitely noticed the directing in voyager more than in the other series even if the writing is not as fresh

Tried watching some of the fan films/shows on Youtube - not sure what the fanboys are smoking thinking they compare to even the worst of latter-day Trek (excepting Enterprise because I never saw that).

i've definitely seen some fan films that were better than some of the worst TOS/TNG episodes. but i don't really remember them...

ahem... Unexpectedly awesome Star Trek fan productions

but my main point i guess was that the restrictions are obnoxiously onerous - forced to use official merchandise for costumes, banning of any official Trek actors, etc

Unreasonably exciting news: all the Star Trek TV shows are on Netflix UK again so I can quit with this VPN bullshit. Whoop.

Weirdly enough, I get my TNG fix from BBC America.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DdH1WjHiB0

We got 4 free passes to the latest movie, is it worth going to see? I saw the first of the new reboots recently and it wasnt so bad.

wait until it comes out before asking?

(also Simon Pegg wrote it so I'd have thought that would be enough for you)