Star Trek: Classic or Dud?

his break was deathwatch on stage. before that people thought he was too ugly. no mention of the balcony in the book.

here's nimoy and shatner together prior to star trek
https://youtu.be/LSQ3UqBKJ0o?t=1m30s

there's a list of the replaced spaceship shots here

http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/tos_ships.htm

I like all the new effects stuff in TNG though - seems pretty seamless for once. And the remastering colours are really beautiful - I never thought of TNG as a beautiful show. This image from "The Survivors", for example.

http://tng.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x03/the_survivors_hd_091.jpg

I never thought of TNG as a beautiful show.

it was phenomenally ugly! imo. just the drabbest color scheme, dimly lit etc.

ST in general is really good at making space travel seem pretty drab and boring, imo

Yes - I remember it as being super ugly and v 90s drab, but the remasters just look *great*. Drab has dated well.

I was poor and lived in a trailer, so it looked like a super nice hotel to me. Loved it.

which decor of any of the series would you guys prefer to live in?

OST hands down

DS9 had pretty nice living quarters

If you like Cardassian design and architecture.

sisko's dad's place. louisiana with no crime, good air conditioning, and not sinking into the ocean. with instant or near-instant travel to anywhere on earth.

i was thinking more of the nice big windows

kirk's SF apartment has floor-to-ceiling views
http://www.filminamerica.com/Movies/StarTrek/02TheWrathOfKhan/wrath02.jpg
also rent is reasonable because they don't use money

Worf's quarters aboard the Enterprise D are interesting. Everything either has multiple sharp points, or is an uncomfortable chair.
http://funkboxing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/WorfsChairRender.jpg

kirk's sf apartment was my first thought and yeah whenever they need to they just replicate up some more bayfront property. would also like a tiny curtained meditation annex like spock has to his quarters. a thing on tng that i do like is the slim windows into space directly above the bunks.

Started watching TOS episodes for more or less the first time ever. Four out of the five so far have involved a well choreographed brawl or three. Still, the resolutions have relied on brain as much as brawn.

Then I watched a TNG episode where Riker cooks an omelette for his friends. Data says this is inefficient and Riker tells him a replicator lacks subtlety, flair, and individuality - he then proceeds to make scrambled eggs, and has to scrape them off the bottom of the pan when serving up. This might be the most ludicrous Star Trek scene I've ever come across - compounded by Dr Pulaski saying she's brought 'ale from Ennan Six' which looks more like brandy. Mmm, scrambled omelettes and ale!

I realise 'most ludicrous scene' is a bold claim for a franchise where e.g. two characters 'evolve' into primitive amphibians after exceeding warp 10, but I stand by it. It's the way no-one bats an eye as Riker dishes up his egg abomination, as though not only have they forgotten how to cook, they don't even know what an omelette is anymore.

Wait, take 3: it's ludicrous because the writers and actors and anyone involved with the scene irl apparently have no idea what an omelette is.

It's great that the rest of that episode (Time Squared - unless Riker makes a second omelette in an episode I haven't seen) is super dark and awesome.

I didn't dig it so much, seemed like a lot of standard tropes - mysterious entity! Time travel! Doppelgängers! - thrown together without much panache or originality. However it did have "the theory of the Moebius, a twist in the fabric of space where time becomes a loop. Where time becomes a loop. Where time where time becomes a loop becomes a loop."

if Kirk used money maybe his hairpiece would look better

oh man Time Squared is one of the best. there is something instinctive and primal about cooking eggs i feel like bad eggs are a good "canary in a coal mine" for when a universe has been thrown off course or is generally behaving spooky.

watched some TNG season 4: "The Loss" is about as enjoyable as any episode could be where the already useless Troi losses her powers and just becomes annoying and grating. there was a side plot about her leaving the ship and i was really hoping it would happen. it's not even necessarily that the plot was bad or uninteresting but by it's nature it essentially turned her into an emo teenager just taking it out on all of her coworkers.

also "Data's Day", kind of fun but you have to suspend your disbelief cos there is no way Data would be living and studying with humans for years and yet be clueless to a human being upset that a wedding was called off. or that sarcasms is a thing that exists. this seems to be a problem w Data, they kind of reboot the character way too often, where it seems like he should be learning from his experiences..

I can't understand not enjoying Time Squared - I mean, I can, because obviously you didn't. But the mix of dayglo goofballishness and scifi and unexpectedly metal moments (Picard murders his own duplicate!) is perfectly distilled TNG (for me).

So hey you guys, surprised no one's been talking about this but the new Star Trek series: a) has Bryan Fuller at the helm (we knew that already), b) is set in the original ST universe and NOT the new movie universe, c) is set chronologically between TOS and TNG, and d) will be a seasonal anthology. It sounds like they're doing this right! I watched very little of Voyager and none of Enterprise but I'm pretty psyched for this one.

It's because of Enterprise that I'm not that psyched about this, tbh. Everything up there sounds good except for being set between TOS and TNG - would much rather they went further into the future for more new stories and characters. I guess we'll be seeing those burgundy uniforms again.

It'd be nice if they could have the ST:TMP uniforms for at least a bit. The whole look of the uniforms and equipment in that movie is great, and foreshadows look of TNG.

oh man Time Squared is one of the best.

I really like this episode. It doesn't matter that the plot elements are a mish-mash of half realised ideas (an entity whose motivations we don't understand other than maybe it's some kind of test). Actually it helps to focus the story on Picard and his reactions to the situation. It's like the TOS episode 'The Enemy Within', where we find out a lot about Kirk through how he deals with what's happened.

Yeah, far future would be best. If you're in the middle ground, you have to deal with the whole touchy not fucking up the ST universe thing, which I'm almost certain they will. Easier to do without those constraints.

Just saw Bride of Chaotica on the weekend, p hilare.

Good ep.

I'm so happy that I'm able to work in Picard's DOB into something at work today.

http://redshirtsalwaysdie.com/2016/04/29/patrick-stewart-plays-star-trek-marry-f-kill/

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/74935

2) Rather than confine itself to a single era in Starfleet history, each season of the new series will tackle a different era. Each season could go pre-Archer, post-Janeway, or any timeframe in between.

If this is true, that is AWESOME. I love the idea of each season having its own arc. Feels very Culture-y.

I wonder if they would use the same actors, like American Horror does? Not my preference.

post-Janeway

I want this to be like a Starfleet HQ version of The Office, where Janeway is this backpacker bore type who's going on and on about all the amazing stuff she saw in the Delta Quadrant, while all the other people in the office are gathered around the watercooler complaining about her behind her back.

Janeway: "Did I ever tell you about the time I travelled faster than Warp 10 and turned into a lizard?"
Colleague: "Yes, three times already."
Janeway: "It was amazing..."
Colleague: (thinks) 'I hate my job.'

Colleague 1: "If I hear another of Janeway's Borg stories, I swear I'm going to blow a plasma conduit."
Colleague 2: "Yeah, has she told you the one about how she defeated the Borg Queen with the help of her future self? I can't believe that someone would think we'd fall for a made up story like that."
Colleague 1: "Right, I think it's just a weak attempt to cover up how she stole that armour tech off of some alien species."

Colleague 3: "Dude, watch out. Janeway is super pissed off."
Colleague 4: "Why?"
Colleague 3: "She got 7 Of 9 to hack into the secret Starfleet message board and found the poll thread called 'who was the biggest bullshitter: Archer or Janeway?'."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXpPweAooeE

what can you say about a logo reveal?

i guess the music is kinda nice. keeping it classy.

Yeah, that is the teasingist of teasers...

only thing i really got from it was that it'll debut on CBS?

i think first ep on cbs, then the rest of it is locked into cbs's new netflix-type thing

Please no.

in other words it's torrents only

finally finished DS9 after a year and a half of slow progress through it. very strange final sequence but "Inter Arma Enim Silent Leges" might have been my favorite episode of all so i'm glad i stuck it through

congrats :)

now time to figure out what the good voyager episodes are i aint watching every ep of that shit

I was thinking there was a twitter follow-up to this for voyager but I'm not finding it:
https://twitter.com/fart/status/466076006499905537