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XTC obvs perfected all pastoral rock ever on Senses Working Overtime and thereafter attempted to recapture its spirit with varying degrees of brilliance

Laertiades (imago), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link

'Little Lighthouse' was one of the songs destined for Skylarking, but Rundgren didn't choose it as part of his idea for the record, so they recorded it as the Dukes instead. If Andy had more control over the record, as he did with other XTC albums, I suspect that 'Little Lighthouse' would have made it onto the record, and there'd be less Colin songs. One of the things I always notice when Partridge discusses this is that he mentioned that Rundgren "picked all of Colin's songs" ... Also, 'That's Really Super, Supergirl' likely wouldn't have made it onto the record, and 'The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul' would have sounded completely different.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:23 (eight years ago) link

Shakey otm.

'Mermaid Smiled' is excellent, love it especially when the percussion comes in.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:25 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, 'Mermaid Smiled' wouldn't have made it onto the record without him urging Andy to finish the song, which I think was nothing more than just a riff. So, there's that too.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

I dunno, man, I don't really hear much of a difference between the XTC of Skylarking and the XTC of Nonsuch.

The first has many good songs, the second has much garbage

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:27 (eight years ago) link

Disputed

Laertiades (imago), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:28 (eight years ago) link

Nah, I don't agree... Nonsuch is one of their very best records, IMO. Only track that I'd drop from it would be 'War Dance'

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:29 (eight years ago) link

There's the dumb song about the smart monkeys, "Peter Pumpkinhead" itself, "Then She Appeared, "Holly Up on Poppy" -- they give '60s pop a bad name.

My first XTC album by the way. I didn't get the appeal until I worked backwards.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

'Then She Appeared' was supposed to be a Dukes song. I like 'The Smartest Monkeys', though... so many great musical moments in that track.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

Agree: the bass and guitar interaction. But I have to endure Moulding's smartypants vocal.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:37 (eight years ago) link

I agree w Alfred that Nonsuch is burdened w a lot of not-great tracks (altho naturally we disagree on which ones). Wardance, Smartest Monkeys, Omnibus, Books Are Burning, probably some others I've forgotten because I never listen to them... but I think Holly and Then She Appeared are great lol >)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link

anyway, Andy about to go HAM it looks like

https://twitter.com/xtcfans/status/712392702986461188

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:42 (eight years ago) link

when I listen to Nonsuch I usually skip 'Peter Pumpkinhead' and 'Books Are Burning' (easily done, since the band helpfully made them the first and last track respectively) (dropping those two makes the album 10 minutes shorter overall, which definitely helps) I like everything else, though. I love the synth-clarinets on 'War Dance', the song would probably be a bit dull without them.

soref, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:44 (eight years ago) link

I really like 'Omnibus', although maybe it could have done without the "make your Shakespeare hard and make your oyster pearl" lyric!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 21:59 (eight years ago) link

All I can stand on "Books Are Burning" are the two solos.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link

Rundgren shits all over Another Satellite in the Maron podcast, like a man bursting with WRONG

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:02 (eight years ago) link

xxxx-post:

It was only a matter of time before Partridge picked up on it, to be honest. He's quite fond of setting the record straight on Twitter - I've enjoyed his "THE CORRECTOR" series!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

oh I love Andy, the occasional misstep aside he is a lot of fun on twitter

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:04 (eight years ago) link

It still amazes me that the starting point for 'Books Are Burning' was apparently 'I Get Around' by The Beach Boys! I can kinda hear it in the chord progression, but I wouldn't have known unless Partridge had pointed it out.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:06 (eight years ago) link

Partridge going into overload on Twitter now!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

can't really blame him

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:29 (eight years ago) link

@xtcfans

lol

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

he's being p reasonable considering

Laertiades (imago), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link

TR is a great arranger. Really talented, we were lucky to work with him. He is a mediocre engineer at best.

seems accurate

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link

xp. aye, a pretty measured twitter rant

trickle-down ergonomics (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:43 (eight years ago) link

I tried to smooth over the waters and say nice things to be grown up but if the gloves are off, then they are off.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 22:59 (eight years ago) link

yo yo yo yo YO gangsta andy partridge in tha hizzouse straight from THE EASSIDE (of swindon)

now I hear this biatch todd gunsten talkin smack about tha xtc krew (shoutout to my homeboy c-money) about some remastering and shit well biatch I am gonna REMASTER YO ASS when I pop a glock up in yo area

homeboy yo gonna be saying "DEAR GOD GANGSTA ANDY I'M SORRY FOR BEING A BIATCH AND RUNNING MY BIATCH MOUTH"

gangsta andy partridge, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:10 (eight years ago) link

^ hahahaha!!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link

never change

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:17 (eight years ago) link

damn this is gettin' good

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:18 (eight years ago) link

He is a mediocre engineer at best.

And yet somehow, miraculously, he gave XTC by far the best drum sound they ever had (or would ever have) on any of their records.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:46 (eight years ago) link

Hmm. Not quite sure I agree with that. The combination of Terry Chambers and Hugh Padgham was godlike.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:50 (eight years ago) link

Oh, I think the drums (and everything else) on Black Sea are fantastic, but Prairie Prince's ringing snare seals it for me.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link

Public beef by obscure musicians over 30 year old album that hardly anyone has heard. The internet really has created an interesting world.

Poliopolice, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:57 (eight years ago) link

Andy copping Trump's style here lol: https://twitter.com/xtcfans/status/712581780398809088

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 15:52 (eight years ago) link

lmao

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

it was a more subdued, pastoral Sad

flappy bird, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:19 (eight years ago) link

something something president kill

Laertiades (imago), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 16:22 (eight years ago) link

I love Todd and think he was a big key to making Skylarking as great as it was but wtf at him dissing "Another Satellite"...my favorite song on the whole LP.

frogbs, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link

He's been slagging it off for years!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

I'm in Wiltshire! Hooray for being in XTC country

Laertiades (imago), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:41 (eight years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Coming soon, Skylarking in 5.1 with some not yet named unreleased bits and (I'd expect) a new stereo remix and all the trimmings common to these reissues, happy days.

MaresNest, Friday, 15 April 2016 19:51 (eight years ago) link

lolz Todd is such a dip

lute bro (brimstead), Friday, 15 April 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

Neat, Andy is doing an AMA on Reddit this Sunday.

https://twitter.com/xtcfans/status/722797454819627009

flappy bird, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:04 (eight years ago) link

that'll be great I'm sure

frogbs, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link

This is happening 2day so eye'm bumping this 4 anybody that may have 4gotten.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:29 (eight years ago) link

For some reason, Prince's delivery of the word "Controversy" reminds me of Partridge's delivery of the words "Respectable Street."

thom yorke state of mind (voodoo chili), Sunday, 24 April 2016 14:38 (eight years ago) link

Well both evenly stress every syllable

Οὖτις, Sunday, 24 April 2016 15:05 (eight years ago) link

Hopefully it's not just a queue of 40 something Canadians saying 'Hey, did you ever listen to my demo?'

MaresNest, Sunday, 24 April 2016 15:24 (eight years ago) link


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