Ico / Shadow of the Colossus

loved ico, hated colossus.

Rumor is that Team ICO has something ready to show at E3.

absolutely LOVE SotC, top 5 game for me.

i still haven't played Ico, need to find a way to do that.

colossus is top 5 for me too, loved that game

so, shadow of colossus only this time you ride the colossus?
yeah, that could talk me into buying a ps3

is that actually a thing?

also... where do i know that music?

yeh, that musics bugging me as well, its from a film - i'm thinking Miyazaki or Coens?

oh, youtube comments say Millers Crossing.

ahhhh

yeah, that could talk me into buying a ps3

yep!

People who have played these games, please estimate percentage of time spent walking around doing nothing but getting from pt A to pt B and also estimate how much of this drudgery you believe is essential to the enjoyment of these games.

30% / 22%

You aren't doing nothing; you're looking for the colossus. Sometimes that's can be a bit of a puzzle, given the lack of a HUD. It's a little bit like if you had a horse in Fallout, and there weren't any dudes out in the wasteland.

i have totally wished for that horse in fallout, and that i didn't have to worry about molerats & raiders.

i got the perk to keep the molerats off. And the bears.

"You aren't doing nothing; you're looking for the colossus."
The colossus is where the shiny thing is. When there's a vast grass plains in between you and the shiny thing, it's no puzzle at all that you have to drudge drudge drudge drudge all the way there.

i guess it's boring but it helps to set the scene. i found it kind of soothing, and it would have felt like a very different game if you went directly from colossus to colossus.

Yeah, I don't want to eat a dinner of a steak and a banana split; there's gotta be some greenery and soup to levy that shit out.

it's no puzzle at all that you have to drudge drudge drudge drudge all the way there.

I don't know, it took me a while to find some of the later colossi.

It's not greenery and soup; it's a waiter deliberately stalling for time and handing you more bread baskets.
I get the idea of different paces, but how much are you willing to put up with before you "leave the restaurant?"
please estimate how much more grind you could endure for these games.

hey guess what philip nunez you're wrong

Yeah, I don't want to eat a dinner of a steak and a banana split

all the more for me.

the grind killed colossus for me. it was all grind, even after you'd found them it was a grind to kill them.

i experienced no "grind" at all, until the last colossus anyway

one man's grind is another's healthy labour.

I have a game for you grinders:
"Desert Bus
Desert Bus is the best known minigame in the package, and was a featured part of Electronic Gaming Monthly's preview. The objective of the game is to drive a bus from Tucson, Arizona to Las Vegas, Nevada in real time at a maximum speed of 45mph, a feat that would take the player 8 hours of continuous play to complete, as the game cannot be paused.
The bus contains no passengers, and there is no scenery or other traffic on the road. The bus veers to the right slightly; as a result, it is impossible to tape down a button to go do something else and have the game end properly. If the bus veers off the road it will stall and be towed back to Tucson, also in real time. If the player makes it to Las Vegas, they will score exactly one point"

I'm not asking as a rhetorical put-down on grinders -- I genuinely want to know the limits of what you are willing to put up with from a game, specifically these games, because I think it might be possible to modify them for the purpose of extending the distance between you and the collosumuses.

um, dude, I gave you percentages. you're moving into troll territory now.

"um, dude, I gave you percentages. you're moving into troll territory now."

As much as I'd like to make a game mod to cater to one dude, I'd like get a few more stats before making the attempt. But yes, I was thinking primarily of shortening the game before people responded in the opposite direction.

BTW I have no idea how to go about doing this without seriously breaking the game. The last time I tried doing this it was just hex-editing some dungeon RPG which would give you insane stats but would crash randomly.

I honestly think removing all the in-between "exploring the world" parts of Shadow of Colossus would break it. If all you want is boss battles and nothing but, you're better off with a flash game.

I guess the main point is that this game is not for dudes with short attention spans who crave 'stats'.

the scenery was pretty, the ambient sounds are great, keeping your eyes peeled for fruit and white lizards is fun and honestly it doesn't take that long to find your way through, 3-5 minutes maybe? even on the maze-y ones. i have no idea wtf ur complaining about, fuck outta here with this bus to vegas bs

The 3-5 minutes are especially long if you are watching someone else play. In fact, the more craft the game employs at conveying vast wastelands, the more excruciating it is.

BTW I am all about the grind -- I ended up playing Super Mario Bros solely for the endless underwater world, but that game doesn't foist the grind on you as mercilessly as this game does.

"this game is not for dudes with short attention spans who crave 'stats'."
I'd be happy to remove the score and lifebar meters if you think this will enhance the game. To me the lifebar feels particularly redundant since the game already offers you plenty of feedback re: relative health, and I'm not sure what the score is supposed to represent anyway.

Since when is there a score on the screen?

I'm fine with getting rid of the lifebar meters as long as the game replaces it with something that makes sense, but that was a small concession that I was willing to deal with, and the lifebar disappears most of the time.

i like slow movies too

when are we gonna get a bela tarr xbox tie in, i ask u

bela tarr game will be on ps3; hi capacity bluray innit

other famous director's slow game:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/ca/Takeshi_no_Chosenjo_boxart.png/256px-Takeshi_no_Chosenjo_boxart.png

"Completion of the game requires several unorthodox uses of the Famicom system, such as using the second controller microphone to speak while playing pachinko, or not touching the controls for 60 minutes. "

What is a game you enjoy so we can shit all over it.

um... ducktales?

you mean FUCKTALES, the famed spanish shit machine?
Fuck that game. Fuck it in the BEAK.

(actually i like ducktales)

(yeah it's pretty good)

oh you mean suck tales

i assume you're referring to duck fails

My childhood is in tatters!

in the BEAK

holy mackerel @ that video!!!!

pretty sure it's a griffin or a cat not a mackerel