Pet Shop Boys - Bilingual POLL

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Fans on the internet did not like "Before" when it came out and I think it cast a shadow on the album as a whole. I remember them complaining it was too airy and barely there. Which I guess is what Chris is saying, people were expecting a big record.

LeRooLeRoo, Thursday, 17 March 2016 21:47 (eight years ago) link

Tht's one of the few post-peak singles I do have memories of hearing in a club.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, 'Before' really isn't as anthemic or melodic as some of the Very singles had been, but I always liked the way it sounded "up" and "down" at the same time. I haven't seen the video for years, but I remember it being played a lot on MTV Europe/VH-1 at the time. It may have made more sense to lead the album campaign with 'Se A Vida E', which would have been a hell of a comeback single. I think 'Before' confounded people that were perhaps waiting for a 'Can You Forgive Her?' or something.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 17 March 2016 22:08 (eight years ago) link

"Can You Forgive Her?" is a confounding first single too! "Go West" makes better sense.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 March 2016 22:12 (eight years ago) link

'Can You Forgive Her?' has a really distinct shift from the verse to the chorus, though, whereas with 'Before' it's a little more difficult to pinpoint which part is meant to be the chorus, as the "you find your love before" part sounds as if it could be part of the verse, and the "before, before, before" part, while definitely a hook (as Neil explains above) doesn't really feel like a chorus either.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 17 March 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 20 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 21 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

well

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 March 2016 00:01 (eight years ago) link

Somehow my vote for "The Survivors" didn't work.

LeRooLeRoo, Monday, 21 March 2016 01:23 (eight years ago) link

'To Step Aside' is great, I think, but being buried right near the end of the album (which is pretty long) does it no favours.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Monday, 21 March 2016 18:12 (eight years ago) link

I'm really surprised by the 1st place. I had never paid any attention to that song. Had to go and play it to remember which one it was. And I have listened to Bilingual many, many times. Not a bad track though. It's not totally crazy that it won.

daavid, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 02:25 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, I think it's definitely in the wrong position on the album. If it had been in the first half, perhaps it wouldn't be as overlooked.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:43 (eight years ago) link

one year passes...

Listening to this again, still a painfully underrated record.

The Anti-Climax Blues Band (Turrican), Sunday, 30 April 2017 01:10 (six years ago) link

I've brought it up before, but the album plays much better with the alternative track order that Neil once suggested. Maybe in the Further Listening liners?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 30 April 2017 18:42 (six years ago) link

one year passes...

THE MORE THAT IT HURTS
THE LESS THAT IT WORKS

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Saturday, 9 March 2019 07:30 (five years ago) link

Coming up against it now
We're coming up against it ooh

LeRooLeRoo, Sunday, 10 March 2019 21:56 (five years ago) link

OTM.

Le Baton Rose (Turrican), Sunday, 10 March 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link


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