i have my own inchoate history-teacher fantasies about its applications plus some even more inchoate notions about observers and gazes and little heisenberg parables but i haven't actually done any work yet
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
xpost
Dear Oculus or whoever, send me a nightmare generation machine. also, Will M sends his regards. xoxo PS see you in hell!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link
you accidentally posted it on ilx and didn't send it to me൫oculus.biz or wherever
― yellow despackling power (Will M.), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link
i yelled it out the window too, i'm sure someone out there will understand!
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link
This still needs like three more evolutions before i will buy it and i speak for all mankind
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 March 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link
I've preordered the PlayStation one, but I already kind of know I'll use it about as much as I used the old eye toy camera.
― JimD, Thursday, 17 March 2016 09:59 (eight years ago) link
someone get Karl one of these so we can have some stereoscopic animated gifs
― μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link
oooh, that'd be kinda cool. i wonder if you can just do that with google cardboard, though? i really need to get off my butt and order one. or stay on my butt and order one, either way
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link
i thought of a game where you have to maintain eye contact with faces contorted into expressions of grotesque agony and pain, thus causing them, gradually, to grow peaceful and content, and as you successfully progress the game keeps adding more and more faces in greater and greater excruciation until they are appearing too fast for you to look at any single one of them for long before your line of sight is obscured by a cluster of new, screaming faces, and you either a) quit or b) stop trying to process/heal every face and instead swerve your neck around trying for no particular reason to hold onto one or two specific ones until the game abruptly ends with no score or "achievements"
second idea: mario in the boo house
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 March 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link
ooof, reminds me of high school, not sure i could relive that
― Karl Malone, Friday, 18 March 2016 01:41 (eight years ago) link
faces contorted into expressions of grotesque agony and pain
reminds me of "Inland Empire".
the applications for horror style games is thick and tbh kind of scary. my heart is already racing when i'm in a particularly tense game of hide and seek in a Metal Gear Solid and I get spotted. with the added immersion of VR and inability to just look away it's likely there will be people having heart attacks while in VR. at that point the traditional self-regulation that video games have worked with for 20-or-so years would no longer be enough. we will have to invent a new kind of criteria that doesn't apply to movies, which can get an R for simply having curse words or nudity. in VR you could make a G-rated jump scare game that is by all appearances cute and harmless in still images yet is actually a public hazard due to immersion and intensity. figuring out how to test and judge these games as they get more and more sophisticated is going to be a doozy.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 March 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link
i occasionally get squicked out by violence in first-person shooters - the thought of a fully-immersive experience of killing virtual people is genuinely a bit frightening to me
― ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 March 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link
adam otm; i find this cartoon game about fish terrifying
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 March 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link
also ridic beautiful btw
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 March 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link
this is maybe the first sensible usage of VR that I could see getting popular, but it requires a host of cameras. Maybe mall kiosks where you place holocalls?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d59O6cfaM0
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link
the killer app is recording the conversation and playing it back whenever you want
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
has anyone seen this tv commercial for a phone that features lil wayne and wesley snipes? wayne is wearing some vr goggles
i was hanging out with my parents and sister and i think we all watched in silence and then went "whaaaaaat" at the end
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
I think it's this one, youtube not working at work:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqkODlbtPQg
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link
this one is thoroughly wtfhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrb7pepMjY
― i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link
I want to work at whatever ad agency came up with these
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link
This makes me really, really want to watch a 90's Wesley Snipes action film today
― sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 4 April 2016 15:16 (seven years ago) link
blade 1 and 2 really hold up
― ulysses, Monday, 4 April 2016 15:45 (seven years ago) link
don't sleep on 3, it has triple h and parker posey together at last
― adam, Monday, 4 April 2016 15:48 (seven years ago) link
would love to see a move like Deja Vu (Denzel) filmed for Oculus
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
blade 3 is horrible for many reasons, but triple h and parker posey are definitely not those reasons
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:05 (seven years ago) link
agreed
― ulysses, Monday, 4 April 2016 19:08 (seven years ago) link
i also like the scene where jessica biel pretends to be a pregnant woman in the subway so she can shoot vampires with arrows. actually the more i think about it the more like the movie. the dracula dude is so low rent tho, he's like a buffy villain
all of this is to say that i am excited for the VR fad to fade away once again
― adam, Monday, 4 April 2016 19:22 (seven years ago) link
worst part of the movie is the plot, and the fact they let ryan reynolds ad lib jokes, none of which were at all funny
― μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 19:41 (seven years ago) link
http://mimeacademy.net/
― ulysses, Saturday, 9 April 2016 05:44 (seven years ago) link
Double Dare Simulator: VR Slime Edition
imagine getting slimed in VR, that would be pretty rad
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 9 April 2016 13:41 (seven years ago) link
i all of a sudden realized what game this soon-forgotten stopgap hardware was built to have remade on it: a mind forever voyaging
― le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link
i feel like people are still kinda acting like vr is gonna be a thing in a somewhat even more farfetched way than apple watch becoming a thingif we can get through the holiday i kinda hope that will calm this down
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 05:58 (seven years ago) link
Does anyone here have one of those google cardboard phone holders? I have an iPhone 6, which I might upgrade at some point in the near term, and was wondering if anyone had a recommendation. I watched a few VR movies on the Within app and am sold enough on the concept that I'd shell out a few bucks to get the dual-image effect
― mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link
Definitely worth picking one up, in terms of recommendations though I can only recommend you don't get the one I got, which was pretty flimsy and badly put together.
I think google talked about hard plastic ones earlier this year though? Not sure whether anyone's actually making/selling those yet.
― JimD, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link
http://www.view-master.com/
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link
oh ffs no it turns out that was their april fool shit this year. Man, if your only idea for an april fool gag is to announce an actual improvement which people actually want to an actual product you already promote, maybe best not to bother eh?
(xp to me)
― JimD, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link
That one definitely looks cool (although after tilting my phone around, I'm wondering if a head strap isn't the worst idea) but are you recommending that as one you've tried? xp
― mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link
i am not tbh but it's very cheap and likely a good test of the tech.http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2016/08/the-new-view-master-deluxe-vr-is-the-best-cheap-vr-headset-available/My hands on VR experience has been limited to the NYT cardboard giveaway (interesting but not anything I could use for more than ten minutes) and an hour with an oculus rift which felt more or less as novel and as disposable as the 3D element of the 3DS
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:21 (seven years ago) link
mh the best one to get is the viewmaster for sure but you'll need wireless speakers as it doesn't have a hole for the headphone port
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:45 (seven years ago) link
I have a viewmaster and it's great (I haven't tried the cardboard ones but the VM is only like $10-15 more so why not get something way more durable, eh?)
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:46 (seven years ago) link
steve, the new one will have a headphone jack; check that gizmodo link
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 16:59 (seven years ago) link
ooh
― mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 18:46 (seven years ago) link
ugh now i have to upgrade!!!
― laraaji p. henson (Stevie D(eux)), Friday, 12 August 2016 23:57 (seven years ago) link
i feel like people are still kinda acting like vr is gonna be a thing in a somewhat even more farfetched way than apple watch becoming a thing]
Is this a general consensus, that mainstream interest in VR has peaked? I don't nec agree. Obviously the high cost of Oculus/Vive, and gimmicky low-quality nature of Google Cardboard is holding things back but it still seems like early days. Interested to know what people think.
― NI, Sunday, 14 August 2016 15:54 (seven years ago) link
a lot of art/creativity festival things I follow were really into augmented reality four or five years ago, and while google glass seemed like a misfire, the stuff that people were using for projects -- geotagging, images and animation overlaid on live pictures on cell phones, are big now even if gimmicky. the pokemon go and snapchat stuff is cheesy but widespread
all the same festivals have had VR art tracks over the last year or two
― mh, Sunday, 14 August 2016 16:01 (seven years ago) link
i tried Google Tilt Brush. That shit fuckin rules
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Sunday, 14 August 2016 17:36 (seven years ago) link
xp: clearly the business side doesn't think it's peaked and zuckerberg's long game interest suggests everyone genuinely believe this is a whole new form of media. i remain deeply deeply doubtful.
― thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Monday, 15 August 2016 17:21 (seven years ago) link
it's interesting because it's the convergence of several pieces of technology that have been independently developed but work in concert for the consumer devices. you have the use of goggles or screens to provide an immersive perspective rather than a single screen with a fixed view. then there's the human interface devices -- motion and orientation detection in phones makes things like google cardboard and its peers possible and has driven the device accuracy while driving the price point down. there's also the acceptance of things like the Nintendo Wii's remote, which isn't used for VR in its original incarnation, but has made people familiar with motion control.
when I was in college, way back around the turn of the century, a few universities had immersive virtual reality but it was mostly a room you stood in with relatively low-resolution projectors illuminating the surrounding walls and pretty rudimentary control schemes. even then, a handful of companies were very interested and would provide funding in return for time using the equipment for specific purposes. I think one of the big ones was a manufacturer of large machines who would take advantage of the tech to walk around and look at a 3d model of proposed new projects
― mh, Monday, 15 August 2016 17:47 (seven years ago) link
VR is obviously going to be a thing ~eventually~ but i wouldn't count on anything too incredible coming out of the first couple generations, esp with the barrier to entry being so high - the audience is tiny for now
― ciderpress, Monday, 15 August 2016 17:52 (seven years ago) link
I'd qualify that to say direct-to-consumer, motion-sensing VR headsets? Even with consumer VR we're already a bunch of generations in, it just depends if you define "VR" as what oculus rift is capable of. If we exclude some of the prior art, we might as well exclude oculus in a few years when we talk about "real VR"
― mh, Monday, 15 August 2016 17:56 (seven years ago) link