Oculus Rift: Bulky Thing You Put On Your Head or Gateway to Paradise?

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tbh i am really interested in VR as a way to create really weird virtual spaces. i would be really into software geared for beginners that lets you make your own simple rooms, walls, lighting, sounds, etc, save them and share them with others. i have a pile of really terrible installation ideas saved in a really terrible google doc from way back when that i would love to try to replicate in VR and send to unsuspecting soon-to-be-former friends and acquaintances

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

i think that kind of thing is the major reason to get one of these

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:23 (eight years ago) link

and the main way to create such a thing would be...to get a developer's kit somehow and do it in Unity?

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:26 (eight years ago) link

i want to get one of these just so i can make it flash strobe lights with different colors and frequencies in each eye

There was a hole bunch of problems whit his campaigns (crüt), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link

it would be fun to send my dad (if we ever communicated) a room with only Trump mouths as doors, and every time you step through the door it adds another looping Trump audio clip to the soundtrack. while you're dealing with this in VR someone gorilla glues the headset to your face and steals your wallet, for example

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:28 (eight years ago) link

i want to get one of these just so i can make it flash strobe lights with different colors and frequencies in each eye

exactly

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link

friend of mine is working on some sort of VR music video project, seems like there's some space for non-interactive things like that specifically developed for the format

ciderpress, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:29 (eight years ago) link

that's really neat. i'll have to look into that. if anyone knows of any good starting points for VR rookies trying to make shit feel free to post them here, i'd be very appreciative!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link

yeah Unity is really easy to learn and there are tons of tutorials online. here's one on the oculus developer site for a simple VR game. works in mobile/Gear VR as well:

https://developer.oculus.com/documentation/game-engines/latest/concepts/unity-tutorial-rollaball-intro/

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:30 (eight years ago) link

unity isn't the only platform and i believe requires a licensing fee that for instance UE4 doesn't -- i'm out of my depth here tho, there is plenty of argument online. also don't think there's any reason to get a developer's kit when the consumer model's coming out so soon, unless of course you can borrow somebody's cast-off, which btw is why i've been itt.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:31 (eight years ago) link

would def subject myself to yr nightmarescapes, km.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:33 (eight years ago) link

if i found out km was making vr experiences i would buy a vr

you can tell oculus or whoever i said that. see if they send you a kit

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:37 (eight years ago) link

i tried the strobe in different eyes thing w anaglyph 3d video and it didn't really work. this new technology has a lot of promise and undiscovered territory especially irt abstract/experimental experiences.

making a wholly immersive psychotropic Dream Machine would be perfect for VR. but personally i think it's all still a bit young and whatever you develop is going to require at least some kind of traditional reference point.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:38 (eight years ago) link

i have my own inchoate history-teacher fantasies about its applications plus some even more inchoate notions about observers and gazes and little heisenberg parables but i haven't actually done any work yet

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

xpost

Dear Oculus or whoever, send me a nightmare generation machine. also, Will M sends his regards. xoxo PS see you in hell!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

you accidentally posted it on ilx and didn't send it to me൫oculus.biz or wherever

yellow despackling power (Will M.), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 20:25 (eight years ago) link

i yelled it out the window too, i'm sure someone out there will understand!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 20:35 (eight years ago) link

This still needs like three more evolutions before i will buy it and i speak for all mankind

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 17 March 2016 05:28 (eight years ago) link

I've preordered the PlayStation one, but I already kind of know I'll use it about as much as I used the old eye toy camera.

JimD, Thursday, 17 March 2016 09:59 (eight years ago) link

someone get Karl one of these so we can have some stereoscopic animated gifs

μpright mammal (mh), Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link

oooh, that'd be kinda cool. i wonder if you can just do that with google cardboard, though? i really need to get off my butt and order one. or stay on my butt and order one, either way

Karl Malone, Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:19 (eight years ago) link

i thought of a game where you have to maintain eye contact with faces contorted into expressions of grotesque agony and pain, thus causing them, gradually, to grow peaceful and content, and as you successfully progress the game keeps adding more and more faces in greater and greater excruciation until they are appearing too fast for you to look at any single one of them for long before your line of sight is obscured by a cluster of new, screaming faces, and you either a) quit or b) stop trying to process/heal every face and instead swerve your neck around trying for no particular reason to hold onto one or two specific ones until the game abruptly ends with no score or "achievements"

second idea: mario in the boo house

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 March 2016 01:29 (eight years ago) link

ooof, reminds me of high school, not sure i could relive that

Karl Malone, Friday, 18 March 2016 01:41 (eight years ago) link

faces contorted into expressions of grotesque agony and pain

reminds me of "Inland Empire".

the applications for horror style games is thick and tbh kind of scary. my heart is already racing when i'm in a particularly tense game of hide and seek in a Metal Gear Solid and I get spotted. with the added immersion of VR and inability to just look away it's likely there will be people having heart attacks while in VR. at that point the traditional self-regulation that video games have worked with for 20-or-so years would no longer be enough. we will have to invent a new kind of criteria that doesn't apply to movies, which can get an R for simply having curse words or nudity. in VR you could make a G-rated jump scare game that is by all appearances cute and harmless in still images yet is actually a public hazard due to immersion and intensity. figuring out how to test and judge these games as they get more and more sophisticated is going to be a doozy.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Friday, 18 March 2016 12:24 (eight years ago) link

i occasionally get squicked out by violence in first-person shooters - the thought of a fully-immersive experience of killing virtual people is genuinely a bit frightening to me

ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 March 2016 13:07 (eight years ago) link

adam otm; i find this cartoon game about fish terrifying

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 March 2016 13:57 (eight years ago) link

also ridic beautiful btw

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, 18 March 2016 14:03 (eight years ago) link

this is maybe the first sensible usage of VR that I could see getting popular, but it requires a host of cameras. Maybe mall kiosks where you place holocalls?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7d59O6cfaM0

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link

the killer app is recording the conversation and playing it back whenever you want

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link

has anyone seen this tv commercial for a phone that features lil wayne and wesley snipes? wayne is wearing some vr goggles

i was hanging out with my parents and sister and i think we all watched in silence and then went "whaaaaaat" at the end

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link

I think it's this one, youtube not working at work:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqkODlbtPQg

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:43 (eight years ago) link

this one is thoroughly wtf
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdrb7pepMjY

i believe that (s)he is sincere (forksclovetofu), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:44 (eight years ago) link

I want to work at whatever ad agency came up with these

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 28 March 2016 18:51 (eight years ago) link

This makes me really, really want to watch a 90's Wesley Snipes action film today

sexy dander (Stevie D(eux)), Monday, 4 April 2016 15:16 (eight years ago) link

blade 1 and 2 really hold up

ulysses, Monday, 4 April 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link

don't sleep on 3, it has triple h and parker posey together at last

adam, Monday, 4 April 2016 15:48 (eight years ago) link

would love to see a move like Deja Vu (Denzel) filmed for Oculus

illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Monday, 4 April 2016 17:52 (eight years ago) link

blade 3 is horrible for many reasons, but triple h and parker posey are definitely not those reasons

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 18:05 (eight years ago) link

agreed

ulysses, Monday, 4 April 2016 19:08 (eight years ago) link

i also like the scene where jessica biel pretends to be a pregnant woman in the subway so she can shoot vampires with arrows. actually the more i think about it the more like the movie. the dracula dude is so low rent tho, he's like a buffy villain

all of this is to say that i am excited for the VR fad to fade away once again

adam, Monday, 4 April 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link

worst part of the movie is the plot, and the fact they let ryan reynolds ad lib jokes, none of which were at all funny

μpright mammal (mh), Monday, 4 April 2016 19:41 (eight years ago) link

http://mimeacademy.net/

ulysses, Saturday, 9 April 2016 05:44 (eight years ago) link

Double Dare Simulator: VR Slime Edition

imagine getting slimed in VR, that would be pretty rad

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Saturday, 9 April 2016 13:41 (eight years ago) link

four months pass...

i all of a sudden realized what game this soon-forgotten stopgap hardware was built to have remade on it: a mind forever voyaging

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Friday, 12 August 2016 02:54 (seven years ago) link

i feel like people are still kinda acting like vr is gonna be a thing in a somewhat even more farfetched way than apple watch becoming a thing
if we can get through the holiday i kinda hope that will calm this down

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 05:58 (seven years ago) link

Does anyone here have one of those google cardboard phone holders? I have an iPhone 6, which I might upgrade at some point in the near term, and was wondering if anyone had a recommendation. I watched a few VR movies on the Within app and am sold enough on the concept that I'd shell out a few bucks to get the dual-image effect

mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 13:49 (seven years ago) link

Definitely worth picking one up, in terms of recommendations though I can only recommend you don't get the one I got, which was pretty flimsy and badly put together.

I think google talked about hard plastic ones earlier this year though? Not sure whether anyone's actually making/selling those yet.

JimD, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:13 (seven years ago) link

http://www.view-master.com/

thrusted pelvis-first back (ulysses), Friday, 12 August 2016 14:14 (seven years ago) link

oh ffs no it turns out that was their april fool shit this year. Man, if your only idea for an april fool gag is to announce an actual improvement which people actually want to an actual product you already promote, maybe best not to bother eh?

(xp to me)

JimD, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link

That one definitely looks cool (although after tilting my phone around, I'm wondering if a head strap isn't the worst idea) but are you recommending that as one you've tried? xp

mh, Friday, 12 August 2016 14:16 (seven years ago) link


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