Timothy McGinty, who bungled the Tamir Rice case, is in trouble also, but narrowly leading.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:49 (eight years ago) link
on the prosecutor defeats
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamserwer/paying-the-price#.itqN9Nb2k
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Was so happy to vote against McGinty yesterday.
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
Ferguson agrees to the DoJ consent decree: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/15/470598733/ferguson-city-council-accepts-deal-with-justice-department
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
http://gawker.com/black-maryland-cop-killed-by-fellow-officer-who-thought-1765358994
― ive seen enough Good Wife episodes (s.clover), Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
life imitates wire
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Friday, 18 March 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/24/nyregion/prosecutor-wont-seek-prison-for-peter-liang-ex-officer-convicted-in-killing.html?_r=0
In a statement, the district attorney, Ken Thompson, said the case was about “justice and not about revenge,” and urged that the former officer, Peter Liang, receive five years of probation, including six months of home confinement, when he is sentenced next month.Mr. Liang, 28, who was convicted of second-degree manslaughter, could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison.“Mr. Liang has no prior criminal history and poses no future threat to public safety,” Mr. Thompson said. “Because his incarceration is not necessary to protect the public, and due to the unique circumstances of this case, a prison sentence is not warranted.”
Mr. Liang, 28, who was convicted of second-degree manslaughter, could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison.
“Mr. Liang has no prior criminal history and poses no future threat to public safety,” Mr. Thompson said. “Because his incarceration is not necessary to protect the public, and due to the unique circumstances of this case, a prison sentence is not warranted.”
― k3vin k., Thursday, 24 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link
Not sure what to think about that. I'm definitely on the side that he deserved to lose his job and be prosecuted to show that this is not acceptable. If a private citizen did something similar, they would almost certainly do prison time. But the argument is true that now that he is not a police officer, it's unlikely he poses a threat or a likelihood of further incident.
― Nhex, Thursday, 24 March 2016 04:44 (eight years ago) link
i'm not a big jail fan for anyone and would think it is reasonable if he treats others the same way (which i doubt but there is likely no analogous situation) because manslaughter doesn't always need a prison sentence imo. to hear a prosecutor raise the idea that incarceration is meant to protect the public is ummm i don't know...lol? like you don't do that moral calculus when you put a drug offender in jail, you just suddenly have empathy for this guy and his horrible mistake. obviously if a normal person would get like 5 years for something similar, incarceration is not imposed to protect the public in that situation, he'd be getting out pretty soon. it's a punishment.
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link
but it's messed up & sends a message that this person he killed doesn't matter as much as other innocent people who die, idk
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link
that's why i don't believe in "justice"!
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:33 (eight years ago) link
This could go in a bunch of threads, I'm aware.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/21/death-by-gentrification-the-killing-that-shamed-san-francisco
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 March 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link
Very sad, very thought-provoking; thanks.
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:27 AM (5 hours ago
iirc ken thompson, the brooklyn DA, is doing some pretty progressive stuff with nonviolent drug crimes and trying to get people's outstanding warrants off the books, but i can't find the links right now. i'm pretty sure it's the same guy
but yeah, one wonders what the recommendation would be had a civilian accidentally killed a police officer
― k3vin k., Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link
http://gawker.com/please-dont-shoot-me-man-begged-before-cop-shot-and-1767973196
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
1) this clearly seems like an incident that should result in an indictment2) I expect this will result in an indictment because the victim was a white man3) I continue to be enraged by previous incidents involving black people that have not resulted in indictments
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link
there was body camera footage, which seems likely to have played a role. he's been charged with 2nd degree murder
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/nyregion/bratton-has-strong-concerns-about-arrest-of-a-mailman-in-brooklyn.html?_r=0
Over the past six years at least three of the officers involved have been named in federal civil rights suits alleging false arrest, among other claims. Most of the cases remain active, and such suits are not uncommon.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
http://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2016/March/jamar-clark-decision
Well this is fucking bullshit
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
yup. fucking bullshit.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
to my point
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
btw I was reading the earlier part of this thread to remind myself of everything that has been piling up over the past few years and can we all agree that if Vic Perry was one of the worst posters we've ever had
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
yes
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link
lol @ my rogue "if", I should edit better
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:22 (eight years ago) link
sexual abuse trigger warning on this one. i didn't watch the video.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/04/01/video-shows-white-cops-performing-roadside-cavity-search-of-black-man/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
― map, Friday, 1 April 2016 18:22 (eight years ago) link
jesus fucking christ
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 1 April 2016 20:44 (eight years ago) link
yeah headline's enough for me
― Οὖτις, Friday, 1 April 2016 20:48 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/albuquerque-police-release-video-showing-officer-shooting-undercover-cop-n549461
this happened well over a year ago, but i guess this sort of wacky mixup was inevitable the way the police are shooting everyone lately.
Jarring videos showing the moments when an Albuquerque police officer was shot several times by his own lieutenant during an undercover operation were released Thursday, following the settlement of a lawsuit that awarded the wounded officer $6.5 million."I didn't know it was you!" says Albuquerque Police Department Lt. Greg Brachle moments after putting at least eight bullets into APD Officer Jacob Grant in January 2015.Video from Brachle's lapel shows him running up to a vehicle that Grant was sitting in with suspects and yelling "gun," then promptly firing his weapon."Oh s---, that was Jacob! F--- me!" Brachle is heard saying. "Are you OK?" Brachle asks Grant. "No," Grant answers.
"I didn't know it was you!" says Albuquerque Police Department Lt. Greg Brachle moments after putting at least eight bullets into APD Officer Jacob Grant in January 2015.
Video from Brachle's lapel shows him running up to a vehicle that Grant was sitting in with suspects and yelling "gun," then promptly firing his weapon.
"Oh s---, that was Jacob! F--- me!" Brachle is heard saying. "Are you OK?" Brachle asks Grant. "No," Grant answers.
― nomar, Saturday, 2 April 2016 07:15 (eight years ago) link
Anyone think this school-district officer used a bit more force than is needed to restrain a 12-year-old schoolgirl?
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/video-shows-san-antonio-school-officer-body-slamming-girl/
― Lee626, Friday, 8 April 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link
this middle school is a stone's throw from the HS where i teach. fucking awful. get cops out of schools.
― 6 god none the richer (m bison), Friday, 8 April 2016 03:10 (eight years ago) link
http://www.questionthepremise.org/new-blog/2016/4/7/an-official-narrative-built-on-sand
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Friday, 8 April 2016 06:25 (eight years ago) link
Ongoing U.S Police Brutality and Corruption Discussion Thread
^^^so this was a justifiable shooting according to an investigation. a "suicide by cop" situation. i'm not calling bullshit on that, but i'm remaining skeptical...
http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-police-commission-lapd-shooting-20160419-story.html
― nomar, Wednesday, 20 April 2016 17:28 (eight years ago) link
Baltimore at it again: http://baltimore.cbslocal.com/2016/04/27/city-police-investigating-officer-involved-shooting/
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 27 April 2016 23:23 (eight years ago) link
Chicago PD really learning from its past mistakes I see:http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/04/28/2-investigators-pastor-says-chicago-cops-beat-her-during-road-rage-incident/
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 May 2016 16:22 (seven years ago) link
good washington post piece
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-watch/wp/2016/05/06/south-carolinas-poisonous-police-culture-the-death-of-lori-jean-ellis/?postshare=481462560758840
― Francis Ford Cupola (contenderizer), Saturday, 7 May 2016 04:17 (seven years ago) link
James Comey is an embarrassing idiot: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/12/us/comey-ferguson-effect-police-videos-fbi.html
"I have no evidence for this assertion, but I do know that cops can't do their jobs unless they feel like they can kill whoever they want"
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 May 2016 16:43 (seven years ago) link
damn kinda wish i didn't watch the Sterling video. fucking horrible
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 20:44 (seven years ago) link
If I have my way, I will never see the Sterling video.
― volumetric god rays (DJP), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
If you're not an idiot who has a pollyannaish view of the police there's no good reason for you to ever watch videos of them murdering people
― ♫ Corbyn's on fire / PLP is terrified ♫ (jim in glasgow), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link
it feels so hopeless that this shit will ever change
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:06 (seven years ago) link
I only see two ways that things can change:
1. Police are regularly handed indictments when someone is killed under questionable circumstances. I am not saying that all of these cases will or should result in guilty verdicts but the officers involved should be brought before a court of law and the evidence should be examined as part of a trial. Without this, there is not even the faint hope of justice for the victims.
2. There is a violent uprising against municipal and state police forces, incurring large casualties on both sides and triggering a response from the state/federal level that fundamentally changes the way policing works in this country. I do not predict that any changes from this admittedly unlikely scenario would go well for victims.
― volumetric god rays (DJP), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:15 (seven years ago) link
I realize how melodramatic that post is but... what else is going to change things?
― volumetric god rays (DJP), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:23 (seven years ago) link
seems like 1) is really the only viable option. 2) is sort of too horrifying and unlikely to contemplate, nothing good would come of it.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:25 (seven years ago) link
yeah I'm not sure why everyone wants to watch videos of people getting murdered. some people on my fb feed are like 'watch it. sit with it.'
no dude. I know what happened.
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:26 (seven years ago) link
yeah I don't watch these
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:28 (seven years ago) link
when I was kid 'faces of death' on vhs was like the holy grail of illicit materials.. and nowadays they show people getting killed on tv every couple weeks..
#getoffmylawn?
― carthago delenda est (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:30 (seven years ago) link
def can remember when even the idea of someone (in a non-combat zone, at least) being murdered on camera was unfathomable
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 21:39 (seven years ago) link
not even as a kid, for me. My first exposure to shit like FoD was early P2P filesharing era stuff, after people moved on from mp3s and on to videos, but before BitTorrent became the universal client. I watched Mondo Video type shit in high school and that freaked me out enough, when folks fired up FoD I just left the room or found something else to stare at until the creepy contingent decided to move on to something else.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link
Anyway Dan I see 1 as being absolutely necessary - it will take longer to manifest in most jurisdictions where the problems are most severe, of course - and I still believe in whatever I said upthread (was it this thread?) about changing the attitude we generally have about police work, i.e. that cops are there to clean up every little problem while simultaneously being armed to the teeth and trained extensively in using deadly force as if Heat-style bank heists were the norm everywhere in America.
― El Tomboto, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link
this one's a few days old.http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/off-duty-shoots-man-dead-road-rage-incident-brooklyn-article-1.2698074
― ian, Wednesday, 6 July 2016 22:39 (seven years ago) link