Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny

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i can see him evacuating embassies from Saigon to Manila

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link

Khrushchev rouses himself long enough from his drunken stupor to hatch a plan to recover the last known piece of the true cross, which bestows upon its holder powers of agricultural progress and effective macroeconomic mastery of the command economy. septuagenarian indiana jones believes the piece belongs in a museum, and embarks on a globe-trotting quest to beat the kgb to the quarry

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link

John Williams score to ape Henry Mancini rather than Korngold

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

just realised that Harrison Ford is only 12 years younger than Sean Connery

uncle tenderlegdrop (jim in glasgow), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

‏@NickPinkerton
Glad I'll once again be able to bask in the palpable sense of joy that Harrison Ford exudes when standing in front of a movie camera.

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link

Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull 2

the toast of every coast (cajunsunday), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:01 (eight years ago) link

If the original films were meant to be an homage to serials from the '30s and '40s and set during that same era, it only makes sense that an Indiana Jones film set in the '60s would pay tribute to cinema from that era. I'm thinking something like Bonnie & Clyde meets Easy Rider? There will definitely be at least one extended psychedelic trip sequence.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:10 (eight years ago) link

Maybe more like I Am Curious (Yellow) meets Head. I dunno, there are so many possibilities!

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link

Indiana Jones and the Return of the Napping Chair

larry appleton, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 19:12 (eight years ago) link

Indiana Jones and the Filming of Raiders of the Lost Ark

Rip van Harford finally woke up in TFA. Maybe they promised to kill off Indiana in this new one.

remove butt (abanana), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link

Would tributes be more likely to be original Man From Uncle/Mission Impossible/Bond?

Or something like Arabesque/Charade/Topkapi/To Catch a thief or similar if those actually are.

JUst trying to think of exotic adventure from the 60s. Probably forgetting something more directly involving archaeology.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:35 (eight years ago) link

man you guys are really into fan fiction

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

like you know there's no way in hell this will resemble any films from the 60s, right?

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:37 (eight years ago) link

that's kind of the ironic thing, adventure movies kind of died out by the 60s, one of the reasons they had to reach back to the 30s for Indy in the first place.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:38 (eight years ago) link

Indiana Jones and the Apartment

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link

I Am Curious (Jones)

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:44 (eight years ago) link

bah Old Lunch beat me to it

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:45 (eight years ago) link

Fifths

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:46 (eight years ago) link

Indiana Jones & the Jonathan Livingston Seagull

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:54 (eight years ago) link

It's an Indy Indy Indy Indy Indy Indy Indy World

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 22:56 (eight years ago) link

what a disaster for shia thebeef

i hope they explain his absence with a brief aside explaining he was fragged by his platoon in korea

ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 09:20 (eight years ago) link

Which'll be great because then it'll be set in the 1970s.

― Ned Raggett

Indiana Jones and the Magic Powder of Studio 54.

the joke should be over once the kid is eaten. (chap), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:04 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlKao_Pox5A

Szechuan TV (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:13 (eight years ago) link

They're replacing the Nazis with hippies in this one.

― Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Tuesday, March 15, 2016 1:15 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

so, this is basically the dragnet 1968 to the original trilogy's dragnet?

wizzz! (amateurist), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 10:46 (eight years ago) link

They should set this one in 1962 and make it a James Bond crossover. Indiana Jones and the Dr. No.

T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 12:57 (eight years ago) link

will no one laugh at my frankheimer joke

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:01 (eight years ago) link

I don't know why, but I knew which movie you were referring to but somehow didn't process the joke it until just now. I'll blame daylight savings time.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:10 (eight years ago) link

Y'know, I've never actually seen that one, but fortunate coincidence has it such that I was already planning on seeing it at the local classic movie house next Wednesday since they're running a series on cinematographers.

Screening is a "digital restoration," so I hope that it holds up. Digital grain/pixel-y bits are far less pleasant than 35mm grain, obv.

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 16:37 (eight years ago) link

part of me is a little sad that shia leboeuf (sp?) is now on the ash-heap of popular cinema history, right there on top of brandon routh.

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:37 (eight years ago) link

(cue sexy ash-heap fanfic)

wizzz! (amateurist), Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:38 (eight years ago) link

keep misreading this thread title as "Indiana Jones and the Filth Movie"

Neanderthal, Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:47 (eight years ago) link

That slag Jones e's only been talkin to the old bill

Ecomigrant gnomics (darraghmac), Thursday, 17 March 2016 01:50 (eight years ago) link

Brandon Routh's on Legends of Tomorrow! ... so, yeah.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 March 2016 09:06 (eight years ago) link

We've found our No 1 on the [insert year here] ILX films poll then.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:09 (eight years ago) link

So far the slate for 2019 is "Mashup: A Butterfly Lovestory", Bad Boys 4, the Inhumans movie, the last Avengers, and Timeliners:

A message of an impending alien invasion that will wipe out all life on earth forces the creation of a special paramilitary team that has the ability to cross parallel realities, preparing all possible futures for the attack. But when a "timeliner" named Eric Mathers is told that the pan-dimensional beings called the Krith may have a hidden agenda, he must attempt to discover if the war he has been fighting for the last fourteen years is really for the greater good or just part of the "greatest lie".

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 March 2016 12:21 (eight years ago) link

Is that Inhumans movie still happening? I thought that was less likely since they're bringing them in thru the tv show

Darkest Cosmologist junk (kingfish), Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:13 (eight years ago) link

They only announced it recently, I thought, the same time as the Black Panther movie (so after season 2 of the show)?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:22 (eight years ago) link

Apparently, the filmmakers who made the new Captain America were asked whether the Inhuman insurguence on AoS (which you'd think would be a development in the MCU that would directly inform super person registration) would be addressed in the movie and they had no idea wtf was even happening on AoS.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:25 (eight years ago) link

Which I hope was a dodge or fake-out because otherwise I find that really aggravating.

Horse Throat (Old Lunch), Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

finally, the comic-book tradition of janky continuity is being translated to the big screen

ripple-chested beefchrist (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:27 (eight years ago) link

I think maybe a few more people are going to watch the film than the TV show - I'd be amazed if the show runners weren't being previewed on the film.

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 March 2016 15:39 (eight years ago) link

no comic book slop here plz

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 17 March 2016 16:36 (eight years ago) link

... you do know which thread this is?

Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 17 March 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link

five years pass...

I suppose we should have revived this one already because it's been filming and all. I appreciate that this is a sentence that legitimately exists:

Baffling new pictures from the set of Indiana Jones 5 see Harrison Ford and Phoebe Waller-Bridge on the run from an angry horde of Roman centurions, inciting new rumors that the film includes time travel.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link

Having said that, per an announcement from Disney today on its overall schedule:

Untitled Indiana Jones Movie, previously dated on 7/29/22 moves to 6/30/23

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

So ... time travel confirmed, then?

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

So Indy will be an octogenarian when the film finally comes out xp

groovypanda, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

Indiana Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link

(i guess jeremy strong is what this looks like when it rly is the point)

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:09 (nine months ago) link

If it hadn't been written about ad nauseam, I wouldn't have guessed that Strong was method acting. He's so good and unforced! Leto is the opposite: big effort, totally unconvincing.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:18 (nine months ago) link

If it hadn't been written about ad nauseam, I wouldn't have guessed that Strong was method acting.

same applies to leto tho-- if variety told me "his process is peculiar: he insists on not knowing anything about the role until five minutes before camera, when he receives his lines and invents a funny voice on the spot" i'd be like "makes sense"

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 13 July 2023 14:30 (nine months ago) link

https://i.ibb.co/jbyGfK4/bof.jpg

serving bundt (sic), Thursday, 13 July 2023 17:47 (nine months ago) link

same applies to leto tho-- if variety told me "his process is peculiar: he insists on not knowing anything about the role until five minutes before camera, when he receives his lines and invents a funny voice on the spot" i'd be like "makes sense"

Tom Hardy's process, no?

Vinnie, Thursday, 13 July 2023 23:20 (nine months ago) link

Frantic and the Fugitive obv great vehicles for Ford's acting; I also remember loving the Mosquito Coast, which I haven't rewatched in probably 25 years.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 14 July 2023 02:10 (nine months ago) link

It was bizarre watching Dial of Destiny (shit title) now refracted through the 40 years of action-adventure culture - the anonymous National Treasures and Mummy movies, Myst-like puzzle games and their progeny, etc. - and just how far removed we are from the original idea: taking a cheap Republic b-movie serial plot and going at it with all the forces of Big Hollywood. Not altogether different from Die Hard's original blueprint of a taking a basic heist film and making everything about it, no matter how small, as awesome as possible.

Also like the Die Hard movies, none of the subsequent Indiana Jones sequels ever got it just quite right like the first one, each one less memorable than the previous, until you get to movie #4 when the movies themselves are abstracted into only one identifiable part: it's the one with Shia LaBeouf; it's the one with Kevin Smith. By movie #5, Jones and McClane are, glum, angry, and never in charge of themselves - only reacting to whatever the plot is doing at that moment. Kinda like these final sequels themselves... who would even be excited to work on this? Just shove it out and make sure those checks clear before the strike.

I felt sorry for Indy. He never would have been able to publish anything related to his government work in archeology for national security reasons. His major finds are warehoused away and forgotten (is Hangar 18 an accredited museum?). Undergrads were flirting with him in the first movie, now they openly mock him. All those years of fighting Nazis and now they're throwing a ticker tape parade for the men who flew to the moon on Nazi rockets. I suppose if Indy had cooperated better he could have retired to a nice place out in Long Island, but knowing him he probably said "that belongs in a museum" to a Rockefeller or some benefactor that could ensure he'd never ever get tenure.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 09:40 (nine months ago) link

Good post, especially last paragraph - though I maintain that this film is much better than #4, and also FWIW better than #2. I think that age and pathos ('I feel sorry for Indy') can contribute something of value rather than just detracting.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:01 (nine months ago) link

Watched #2 again over the weekend and, while the Short Round/Indy relationship is fun and endearing and the first sacrifice scene is all-time the rest of the flick, I felt like I was watching some other adventure film and not Indian Jones. Plus most of the thing takes place *in a cave*. And then, a lifetime later, we're out on some cliffs.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:56 (nine months ago) link

*Indiana Jones

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Tuesday, 18 July 2023 10:57 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

Finally saw this today & don’t know why I bothered.

Phoebe v enjoyable, Ford fine, some of the early Nazi quips were good. the end.

The Antikythera device? rmde Look. i agree that much like the ~idea~ of crystal skulls it has an interesting actual history
but the heavy lifting required to turn this into a plot device is really stupid.
keep it in the woo-woo supernatural/occult realm, do NOT start explaining at length how this shit works for all of our sakes

unlike the ark or the grail there is never a concise handwavey “ok got it” explanation of what it is or does or what the stakes are

so we’re nowhere as soon as it’s revealed.

and then it levels up into a timetravel device? wait ok but ~not really~ because it jpoints to possible time fissures … uuughhhh YOU GUYS JFC
li’m already bored
whaaaaat are we doing

OH but we’ll make it pay off because we are ~fully~ going back to Chekhovs siege of syracuse by flying a fucking plane through a time tunnel

we’re shooting roman centurions
indy wants to … stay … here with archimedes
yep nbd we’re hanging out in 212 BC Sicily chatting to archimedes in ancient greek

what the actual fuck are we doing here please

am I watching motherfucking Bill and Ted
PLEASE STOP THIS AT ONCE

spielberg’s absence as a director was noticeable in that this shit was dull as hell and then levelled up into pure stupid absolute liquid shit

oh and we’ll end with indy in a shitty ny apartment with nothing except some perfunctory makeup sex w his ex wife & maybe cry abt their dead son afterwards

great job everyone clap clap

a truly lifeless movie
zero fun, no stars

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 September 2023 01:45 (seven months ago) link

what about wet Banderas

vashti funyuns (sic), Monday, 4 September 2023 07:14 (seven months ago) link

loved!

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 September 2023 14:23 (seven months ago) link

old indy: ah, old wet banderas, my old friend!
...
old indy: stop having fun! my old friend, wet banderas, is dead!

He didn't seem that broken up about his colleagues being murdered though...

Philip Nunez, Monday, 4 September 2023 15:16 (seven months ago) link

banderas was great, i was relieved when he showed up, like oh he’ll be a good companion but then no

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 4 September 2023 15:24 (seven months ago) link

indiana jones and the dull of density morelike amirite

come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 4 September 2023 15:41 (seven months ago) link

Yeah I totally agree about the Antikythera stuff

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 4 September 2023 15:50 (seven months ago) link

Was Indy meant to be an explicit villain in this? He pries the dial from a mentally disturbed friend promising to destroy it but catalogs it in the stacks instead and forgets about it and also about checking up on his supposed goddaughter. I guess the series as a whole has an implicit undercurrent of Indy being a graverobbing cad but there's a distinct lack of heroic tone in this movie.

Philip Nunez, Monday, 4 September 2023 15:56 (seven months ago) link

two months pass...

It is very funny to me how they de-aged Harrison Ford’s face but not his voice or his body movements

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 November 2023 11:21 (four months ago) link

I wanted to see this but Veg's comments have stopped me

(Literally - I thought "uh oh" and I've been put off ever since)

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 25 November 2023 17:28 (four months ago) link

if i can give back in some small way

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 25 November 2023 17:31 (four months ago) link

It looks absolutely sensational - the colours and the editing and the camerawork are all just ridiculously satisfying. The henchmen are extremely A+ henchmen. One laconic, drawling hothead, bursting out of his too-tight shirt, and one mountain of a man who I think never speaks, just hurls scenery around. Phoebe Waller-Bridge does her thing, and it’s great. A lot of the pieces are there. But none of it really adds up, and Ford is just a nullity. Would have been better as a Tin Tin movie imo

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 November 2023 18:06 (four months ago) link

Oh and the script is super hacky. Stuff you’d cringe at even in an Uncharted cut scene. At one point Indy grabs the contested artifact and yells “to the victor go the spoils!”

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 November 2023 18:29 (four months ago) link

That said the Tangier bit was very good I thought

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Saturday, 25 November 2023 18:30 (four months ago) link

One laconic, drawling hothead, bursting out of his too-tight shirt

That's Boyd Holbrook, who's great as Lackey #1 in Logan too.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 25 November 2023 19:22 (four months ago) link

Also very good as DEA Agent Steve Murphy in first couple of seasons of Narcos

groovypanda, Sunday, 26 November 2023 07:24 (four months ago) link


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