2016 NBA DRAFT

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yeah im liking ingram but simmons seem frequently utterly brilliant too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:20 (three years ago) link

the total non shooting is obvs a huge red flag

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 15:20 (three years ago) link

also like, ingram could be really fucking good

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:23 (three years ago) link

i'm willing to give simmons a bit of a pass on the shooting stuff since it seems like he doesn't even have the basics -- i.e. which hand is your dominant hand -- down. like if he could even build up to a lebron-esque game of finishing very well at the rim with a midrange jumper that comes and goes and a passable three point shot then he should be a star given the rest of his game. but lebron is also a crazy unique individual so i see where the concerns about simmons' make up come in, it just seems a bit early to fault him.

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:26 (three years ago) link

but it will be really tough to make the number one pick either way

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:29 (three years ago) link

the nets not having a lottery pick until 2019 is still so unreal to me

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 16:34 (three years ago) link

v cool B-)

lag∞n, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 20:47 (three years ago) link

You know who Simmons reminds me of is Greg Monroe.

Sorry To Be The Bearer Of Bad Poos (Leee), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:01 (three years ago) link

was there a heated argument about monroe on this board in the past few days or did i dream that?

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:18 (three years ago) link

it happened about 24 hours ago!

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 15 March 2016 21:19 (three years ago) link

good profile of a guy who was probably really hard to profile (it's kawhi btw): http://www.si.com/nba/2016/03/15/kawhi-leonard-spurs-tim-duncan-gregg-popovich-tony-parker-manu-ginobili

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 00:58 (three years ago) link

oops wrong thread

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:11 (three years ago) link

https://vine.co/v/MjQATWDgZIa

lag∞n, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 04:15 (three years ago) link

ingram made an extremely nice block

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:13 (three years ago) link

there it is https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/710530512201207808

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:21 (three years ago) link

ingram is built like a damn spider

call all destroyer, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:24 (three years ago) link

hes v thin but he has a p big frame like his shoulders are way wider than durants

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:26 (three years ago) link

yeah was just thinking that. he could have like a rondo type of frame when he puts a little weight on

Spottie, Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:28 (three years ago) link

it's hard for me to look at him and not think "this guy is going to be very very good in the nba"

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 March 2016 19:00 (three years ago) link

he def seems like hes going to be very very good

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 19:00 (three years ago) link

draft xpress currently has him at #1

lag∞n, Thursday, 17 March 2016 19:00 (three years ago) link

striaght up rooting for duke to make the champ game so i cn keep watching ingram

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:11 (three years ago) link

people haven't seemed to realize that coach k shifted duke to the one and done model and as such has had a bunch of really likable ballers in the last few years

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:12 (three years ago) link

was just thinking that

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:14 (three years ago) link

like traditionally basically created the one dimensonal hateable white but grayson allen is all threes and crazy drives to the basket i love watching him

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:14 (three years ago) link

duke basically created*

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:14 (three years ago) link

cant beat kentuky gotta join em

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:15 (three years ago) link

yeah and UNC has basically swung back the other direction, it's interesting

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:19 (three years ago) link

ingram was basically seen as a UNC lock for several years but ended up going w/ duke in the end

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:20 (three years ago) link

for a while it seemed like going w a second tier team that ran nba offense and didnt have other stars was the way to juice draft stock but calipari changed the math via putting 6 guys in the first round every year

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:24 (three years ago) link

allens got 22 w 2 left in the 1st

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:30 (three years ago) link

i haven't watched him at all, is he good or just college good

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:31 (three years ago) link

hell be a pro but prob not that great

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:33 (three years ago) link

tho when u can shoot anything is possible

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:34 (three years ago) link

hes projected as a bubble 1st rounder now

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:35 (three years ago) link

wait hold on there's another plumlee?

k3vin k., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:37 (three years ago) link

theres an endless supply of plumlees

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:38 (three years ago) link

i think the thing w/ allen is that he's only listed at 6' 5" so he's more a combo guard than a 3 and d guy. if he was 2 or 3 inches taller he would be a lottery pick. i.e. he's much more skilled than sam dekker but dekker has enough height to play on the wing.

but l feel like a lot of teams still have pretty poor guard depth. a lot of teams frankly don't even have three good guards so i feel like there's def a place for him in the league as a scorer off the bench.

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:44 (three years ago) link

im a plumlee but when my family immigrated from plumland they changed their family name to bison bc thats the english equivalent

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:46 (three years ago) link

six four/five is plenty big to play the nba 2 if he really is that big, but seems like he doesnt have great athleticism either so

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:46 (three years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGCytpyY5Wg

he's not unathletic!

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:48 (three years ago) link

i think weirdly he can really jump but isn't that fast or quick laterally

J0rdan S., Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:48 (three years ago) link

wwhen he was 11 should have prayed to god for overall athletic abilities instead of "dear god please let me dunk good"

get a long, little doggy (m bison), Saturday, 19 March 2016 19:49 (three years ago) link

yeah allen doesnt look super quick out there idk

lag∞n, Saturday, 19 March 2016 20:01 (three years ago) link

buddy hield??

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 00:02 (three years ago) link

he had an absolutely insane shooting year but it kinda came out of nowhere and hes old

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 00:03 (three years ago) link

but if he can really shoot like that...

lag∞n, Sunday, 27 March 2016 00:03 (three years ago) link

idk i'm not convinced that age should be held against guys who could really play as upperclassmen. he can really play imo

call all destroyer, Sunday, 27 March 2016 00:41 (three years ago) link

his shot looked unbelievable tonight and you have a pretty high floor if you can shoot like that. i think the question about him is if he's athletic/quick enough to consistently generate his own shot but given how the game is right now that shot would still make him a pretty valuable player.

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 March 2016 00:41 (three years ago) link

seniors drafted in the first round in the last 3 years

frank kaminsky
jerian grant
delon wright
larry nance jr
doug mcdermott
adreian payne
shabazz napier
cj wilcox
josh heustis
cj mccollum
mason plumlee
solomon hill
tyler zeller
andrew nicholson
miles plumlee
festus ezili
jimmer fredette
nolan smith
kenneth faried
jajuan johnson
norris cole
jimmy butler

not exactly the most encouraging group. butler the only franchise player, faried and mccollum arguably close. a lot of role players and busts in that group. also had draymond and jae crowder as second round seniors.

obv if buddy is this good of a shooter it would be almost impossible for him to not be a valuable nba player http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2016/3/22/11259826/buddy-hield-stephen-curry-three-point-shooting-nba-draft-ncaa-tournament

that his shot pretty much came out of nowhere this year might be a little concerning but it looks really damn good

J0rdan S., Sunday, 27 March 2016 00:52 (three years ago) link

hield moved up from 10 to 5 in chad fords 100

lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 20:40 (three years ago) link

or maybe that was xpress that had him at 10, anyway hes at 7 there now

lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 20:41 (three years ago) link

he shd give tip steph if he goes top 5

lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 20:42 (three years ago) link

hield moved up from 10 to 5 in chad fords 100

― lag∞n, Monday, March 28, 2016 4:40 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe that was xpress that had him at 10, anyway hes at 7 there now

― lag∞n, Monday, March 28, 2016 4:41 PM (17 minutes ago)

check back in a few years to see where he ends up

k3vin k., Monday, 28 March 2016 20:59 (three years ago) link

haha

lag∞n, Monday, 28 March 2016 21:00 (three years ago) link

two weeks pass...

celtics ~30% chance of getting one of the top two picks http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/4/14/11429164/updated-boston-celtics-2016-nba-draft-odds

lag∞n, Friday, 15 April 2016 20:01 (three years ago) link

Fuck the Celtics.

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 15 April 2016 20:42 (three years ago) link

rude

lag∞n, Friday, 15 April 2016 20:47 (three years ago) link

As a nuggets and celtics fan I wish this draft was better but maybe more international guys get in

Matt Armstrong, Sunday, 17 April 2016 22:57 (three years ago) link

nugs are gonna have to either make some sort of move or draft and stash, they're gonna have too many dudes

k3vin k., Sunday, 17 April 2016 23:23 (three years ago) link

they've been drafting well

J0rdan S., Sunday, 17 April 2016 23:36 (three years ago) link

The nuggets def have too many players... They're at least 2 deep at every position other than PG (and Augustin isn't half bad). although that includes 2 SFs who are always injured.

Maybe time to move faried.

Matt Armstrong, Saturday, 23 April 2016 23:00 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

wait david thorpe sold me on simmons http://es.pn/1VeiQRM

J0rdan S., Saturday, 21 May 2016 00:55 (three years ago) link

wow, he is really high on him. as much as people have talked about length in recent years, it's interesting that simmons is notably not long for a 6'10" guy.

circles, Saturday, 21 May 2016 03:59 (three years ago) link

did not even realize he was that tall

Spottie, Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:12 (three years ago) link

yeah, maybe not, different sources have different numbers, and he didn't do the official combine measurements.

circles, Saturday, 21 May 2016 04:25 (three years ago) link

he does not look 6'10" irl, might be 6'8"

micah, Saturday, 21 May 2016 08:48 (three years ago) link

Concerns about Simmons?

The knock on Simmons as a shooter is somewhat overrated. Let's not forget that another do-it-all type of NBA star was not a good shooter in college. In two seasons, Kawhi Leonard shot 20.5 percent and 29.1 percent from 3, yet is a career 39-percent shooter in the NBA -- making 44 percent this season.

Simmons has a good-looking stroke, but he never looked as if he was willing to take 3-pointers, and was hesitant to take a lot of jump shots, period. Perhaps this was due to a coaching decision, as he was able to drive by or pass over most defenders. In the NBA, it is fair to expect he will shoot a lot of 3s and be at least good at it, in time.

[waves hands until they fall off]

lag∞n, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:01 (three years ago) link

yeah i am not sure how you get from 'he's not a good shooter' to 'he will shoot a lot of 3s and be good at it' that quickly

ciderpress, Monday, 23 May 2016 00:05 (three years ago) link

but simmons form is kinda terrible

micah, Monday, 23 May 2016 01:02 (three years ago) link

four weeks pass...

Still think this draft is terrible. This is the draft where I'm gonna be that guy finally.

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 June 2016 00:05 (three years ago) link

is bumping this thread during the national anthem of game 7 like one of those lebron subtweets where he tweets about a game being shown on nba tv while the warriors are disemboweling a team on tnt

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2016 00:06 (three years ago) link

anyway this draft is terrible, the celtics got screwed

J0rdan S., Monday, 20 June 2016 00:06 (three years ago) link

blazers have no picks this draft. I am pretty non-committal about it. it will be interesting to see who gets simmons and whether he is worth his salt.

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Monday, 20 June 2016 03:48 (three years ago) link

is bumping this thread during the national anthem of game 7 like one of those lebron subtweets where he tweets about a game being shown on nba tv while the warriors are disemboweling a team on tnt

Absolutely

Matt Armstrong, Monday, 20 June 2016 03:54 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Who would you take with the second pick in this draft?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:43 (one year ago) link

guerschon yabusele

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:52 (one year ago) link

in all seriousness the top 3 are looking like sure fire allstars, simmons is obvs the best and ingram and brown are looking pretty even, id prob take brown if i had to choose but ingram cld easily turn out better he was a total revelation taking over ballhandling duties for the lakers this year, murray goes 4th then everyone else is looking pretty rough

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 04:57 (one year ago) link

o wait i missed taurean prince i like him too sabonis and brogdon are dece a few other guys will prob pan out to some extent, anyway its prob rare to have the best three players actually go in the top 3 spots but it looks like thats what happened here

lag∞n, Wednesday, 11 April 2018 05:06 (one year ago) link


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