Pet Shop Boys -- Super (another Stuart Price production)

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looking at the UK chart placings 'You Only Tell Me You Love Me When You're Drunk' actually reached the same position - they both got to #8 - but I don't think it had anything like the amount of radio play or general ubiquity of 'Se A Vida E'

As I remember it, it didn't... nowhere near! Apart from one TV performance of 'You Only Tell Me You Love Me When You're Drunk' I actually don't recall hearing any Nightlife single on radio or TV, whereas 'Se A Vida E' was in regular rotation on radio and on MTV Europe etc. Weirdly, I remember 'I Get Along' and 'Home and Dry' getting far more radio play than any Nightlife single, although not to the extent of 'Se A Vida E' ...

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 13 March 2016 19:40 (eight years ago) link

I remember being so shocked when You Only Tell Me You Love Me When You're Drunk went in at number eight. I'm not sure I'd even heard it before it charted (I didn't have the album until a few years after). Think it just did well as sales were low in those first few weeks of the new year. The previous two singles scraped into the top 15 after a decent amount of exposure.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 13 March 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

The single was one of the most widely played records on UK radio in 1996 and its video set in a water park was shown on both MTV and VH1 on a regular basis that summer.

It was the second single to be lifted from the album Bilingual, which saw the duo take on a Latin influence as a reaction to the Britpop explosion that was prevalent at the time.

In the US, the single was released by Atlantic Records in April 1997 with "To Step Aside" as a double A-side. Thirteen mixes of the track were commissioned and spread over various formats, several of them promotional only. The single did not chart in the States, but following its success in the UK it became a major success all over Europe.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 13 March 2016 19:59 (eight years ago) link

It was the second single to be lifted from the album Bilingual, which saw the duo take on a Latin influence as a reaction to the Britpop explosion that was prevalent at the time.

Yeah, I remember them talking about this in interviews at the time, and it did sound (and was) very apart from the whole Britpop thing that was going on then, but it still didn't prevent it from being a hit.

'Before', on the other hand, I seem to remember not being particularly well-received, even though it eventually went Top 10.

// 166,000 W A N K E R S // LOVE (Turrican), Sunday, 13 March 2016 20:11 (eight years ago) link

So, there's a new b-side out there apparently! I haven't heard it yet, though!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 19:50 (eight years ago) link

There's (I think) 7 mixes of The Pop Kids, plus In Bits and One Hit Wonder. Something else?

everything, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaBUT6Jx8eM

piscesx, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:27 (eight years ago) link

It's on Spotify too.

everything, Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

WHERE IS MY ADVANCE COPY

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 20:29 (eight years ago) link

Ooh, new Chris Lowe interview at The Quietus too!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Tuesday, 22 March 2016 23:49 (eight years ago) link

Apparently, this record is supposed to be a follow on from Electric and then they're planning to make another album with Price which is to be more in their ballad-heavy mode.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 00:19 (eight years ago) link

I'm sure no one will agree with this but

"The Pop Kids" < "In Bits"

daavid, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link

I love everything about Happiness.

Kitchen Person, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:39 (eight years ago) link

That is some straight-up EDM, but... I like it?

schwantz, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 20:50 (eight years ago) link

if that were made by anyone but the Pet Shop Boys I would have turned it off after 45 seconds...

skip, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:13 (eight years ago) link

Yeah probably.

schwantz, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:49 (eight years ago) link

CHRIS: that were made by anyone but the Pet Shop Boys I would have turned it off after 45 seconds...

NEIL: Yeah probably.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:55 (eight years ago) link

first part of a 4 hour (!) docu series starting as we speak

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b073qwf8

piscesx, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 21:58 (eight years ago) link

Wow -- they actually (heh) discuss songs ("Violence," "Two Divided by Zero," "Kings Cross").

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

wow shit yeah, and Young Offender!

piscesx, Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:13 (eight years ago) link

I haven't heard any of that documentary yet, but haven't they talked about those songs in detail a million times before? At this stage, I'm more interested in how the songs take shape musically and their methods of building up a track in the studio than I am about what the songs are about or the inspirations for the lyrics.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Wednesday, 23 March 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link

You can read that in the liner notes of the 2001 reissues.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 24 March 2016 04:30 (eight years ago) link

Next part on now!

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:05 (eight years ago) link

Actually laughed out loud when Chris started talking about 'Hold On' ... "The fans didn't appreciate the effort that went into this, because the fans don't like this do they? That's why they're wrong. Where they're wrong."

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Thursday, 24 March 2016 22:59 (eight years ago) link

I wondered if they might address how much people hated Winner and that record in general. Couldn't believe they picked Hold On, terrible song.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 March 2016 13:23 (eight years ago) link

Well, put it this way: how many times have you ever heard PSB slag off one of their albums? Or even, apart from the odd B-side, one of their songs?

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Friday, 25 March 2016 14:01 (eight years ago) link

Chris did on the documentary. He doesn't rate So Hard and thinks it spoils the flow of Behaviour. I'm sure I read they're not that keen on Red Letter Day too.

Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:24 (eight years ago) link

That opinion on So Hard is complete and utter madness

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Friday, 25 March 2016 14:25 (eight years ago) link

Definitely. It's probably in mt top five PSB songs. As for it spoiling the flow of the album, wouldn't How Can You Expect To Be Taken Seriously be a similar problem for him?

Kitchen Person, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link

They're barking mad about Elysium, which sounds as tentative and wan as ever.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 25 March 2016 14:28 (eight years ago) link

highlight of part 2 was Neil bursting into I Have Confidence from The Sound Of Music and Chris pissing himself. i don't know of 2 bandmates who can make each other laugh so much or appear to get on so well.

piscesx, Friday, 25 March 2016 14:42 (eight years ago) link

Yeah, 'So Hard' is one of my favourites and I don't think it spoils the flow of Behaviour at all, and I think their "issue" with 'A Red Letter Day' is more in the recording rather than the song itself, but it's very rare you'll hear them slag off their work. If anything, they (particularly Neil) get really defensive about their post-Very work.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Friday, 25 March 2016 14:51 (eight years ago) link

Oh come on, Chris takes the piss out of literally everything they do, especially when Neil takes himself too seriously.

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 26 March 2016 22:16 (eight years ago) link

(Having said that - a friend of mine was a backing dancer during the Yes tour. Apparently the Boys got fairly miffed when the dancers all openly slagged off Winner after it was first played to them.)

Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 26 March 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link

well, how can you dance to that drivel?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 March 2016 22:23 (eight years ago) link

So, this definitely isn't as good as Electric. Anyone else heard it yet?

Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 29 March 2016 22:20 (eight years ago) link

This album has exceeded my expectations so far. I'd say the only thing still bothering me is Price's "cold" production. I know it's not a good word to describe it, but I can't think of a better one atm. I think probably any other producer would have done a better job. I wonder how good this could've been in the hands of Greg Kurstin, for instance.

This one's my favorite

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J50nLCeTHIk&index=10&list=PLxFN5K79aSHDQYsre_8b_nQW2Mvru_waR

daavid, Friday, 1 April 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

A couple of tracks excepted, this is smashing. I love "Twenty-Something" and "Groovy."

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 April 2016 16:52 (eight years ago) link

I still haven't heard it yet, but what I've read/heard about it seems to be mostly positive.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Friday, 1 April 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link

So, having my first listen to this now... the intro to 'Twenty-Something' sounds like it could soundtrack a 16-bit side-scrolling shoot 'em up video game from the early '90s...

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Saturday, 2 April 2016 21:21 (eight years ago) link

like "Young Offender"?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 April 2016 21:22 (eight years ago) link

Ha, yeah!

I'm not too far into the album yet, but one thing that's striking me so far is that I don't think this record sounds as good as Electric production-wise.

WHERE'S JIM!? (Turrican), Saturday, 2 April 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

I was not expecting "Sad Robot World" to sound like an Air pastiche

i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Saturday, 2 April 2016 21:33 (eight years ago) link

This has been growing on me a lot over the last few days. Pazzo and Groovy are a bit throwaway but I'm enjoying the rest. The Dictator Decides is my current favourite. Brilliant lyrics. I really love Undertow too. The chorus reminds me so much of New Order.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 3 April 2016 00:49 (eight years ago) link

"The Dictator Decides" reminds me of "Hairstyle Of The Devil" by Momus.

daavid, Sunday, 3 April 2016 01:00 (eight years ago) link

Oh yeah, that's a great comparison.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 3 April 2016 01:13 (eight years ago) link

I cannot get Happiness out of my head. I just keep repeating "it's it's it's it's it's it's" over and over to myself.

Kitchen Person, Sunday, 3 April 2016 02:26 (eight years ago) link

Gave it a first listen tonight -- I like it but it feels like more of a grower than Electric. But that said I'm also glad they didn't simply do Electric Part 2.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 3 April 2016 04:30 (eight years ago) link


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