IF IT'S NOT LOVE THEN IT'S THE POLL THAT WILL BRING US TOGETHER - ILM Artist Poll #72 - THE SMITHS - RESULTS THREAD

I've never heard Hatful of Hollow

A Rush and a Push and the Land Is Ours
Still Ill [Hatful of Hollow version]
Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
There Is a Light That Never Goes Out
I Know It's Over
London
Oscillate Wildly
Asleep
Girlfriend in a Coma
Jeane
Unloveable
Reel Around the Fountain [Hatful of Hollow version]
The Boy with a Thorn in his Side
Sweet and Tender Hooligan
You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby
I Want the One I Can't Have
Vicar in a Tutu
Unhappy Birthday
Cemetry Gates
This Charming Man

albums
Louder Than Bombs
The Queen Is Dead
Hatful of Hollow
Strangeways, Here We Come
The Smiths

Hatful of Hollow was the last Smiths' album I bought, so I had already heard all the songs on it except for Handsome Devil and Accept Yourself. Some of the versions are different, but it still never meant too much to me.

"Panic" is still a ton of fun to sing but growing up with the rise of hip-hop and then learning more about the origins of techno combined with the "turn" his lyrics and public persona took makes it really, really hard for me (especially as an African-American) to not hear that song as a racist lynching anthem.

― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Monday, 7 March 2016 16:41 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

if it helps, the song that prompted this was Wham's "I'm your man", so it would be that sort of thing..

and I thought they got on so well after their TV interview too

It was because BBC Radio One DJ Steve Wright played "I'm Your Man" straight after a news report about Chernobyl.

Instead of playing the Smiths.

Ha! Yeah, possibly... but mostly because Moz/Marr felt it was so inappropriate. Kinda like playing a U2 song after coming out of a story about some fuckin' dog dying.

Pure indie snobbishness however you slice it though.

morrissey always hated the greeks

"Rembetika is vile"

these guys are from England and who gives a shit
http://i.imgur.com/ByCnnyr.jpg

See, when you come out of those nuclear goddamn disaster stories, man, it's impossible to make those transitions.

Diddly shit! Diddly shit!

Moz sings like a person who has never seen and has no interest in mammary glands.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

people who were bottle fed sing differently?

― sarahell

LOLOLOL

Imagine how things might have turned out had the band been called Smiths!

Could totally imagine Moz in a "Choose Life" shirt, though.

xxp he's interested in protecting the mammary glands of cattle from mechanized human molestation

I say I say I say

Would love if the song were actually about milking a cow.

http://i2.wp.com/contentdope.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/vegetarian-thanksgiving.jpg
"Let me get my paddles on your wobbly waddles ..."

Re-listening to 'The Boy With The Thorn In His Side' again, I love it how Morrissey begins singing on the second chord in the chord progression, as opposed to the first chord where you'd expect the singing to start.

wasn't able to participate in this but thanks for organizing! I'm on tracks 77-75 and they are already awesome.

Tracks 50-48 I mean

ugh

i missed this

never got used to the fact that how soon is now is so loved, likewise with ask

son list would like thusly

20 miserable lie (peel sessions)
last night i dreamt
this night
what difference (hatful)
this charming man (hatful)
barbarism
boy with the thorn
headmaster
stop me
rusholme
nowhere fast
handsome devil (hatful)
london
rubber ring
some girls
still ill (hatful)
bigmouth
i know it's over
asleep
1 there is a light

and out of the albums/comps

hatful of hollow is probably my fave, followed by queen is dead and meat is murder

song*/look*

Just noticed that the Smiths' Complete, which I bought as mp3s and assumed was... complete, doesn't include a few songs! I just heard "Wonderful Woman" for the first time and it's a very pretty song. Maybe not top 20, but certainly top 50

Here is my very consenus-y ballot.

This Charming Man
Ask
William, It Was Really Nothing
Panic
The Boy With a Thorn In His Side
Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
Reel Around the Fountain
Bigmouth Strikes Again
Hand in Glove
There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now
Is It Really So Strange
How Soon is Now?
Cemetry Gates
What Difference Does It Make?
Girlfriend in a Coma
Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
Girl Afraid
Frankly Mr. Shankly
Stop Me If You Think You've Heard This One Before

While waiting for the kettle to boil earlier I realised the main riff from What Difference Does It Make is the theme tune from HOW with the beat on a different place in bar.

What is HOW?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XK0RImTvh0

Now soon, is HOW!

Oh wait, it's come back to me now! Haven't thought about that programme for 30+ years!

Fred Dineage is our local news report presenter, so I get to think about HOW! fairly often.

I missed this. People don't like Strangeways nearly enough - I'm with Morrissey and Marr in thinking Last Night I Dreamt is their best song - but god bless Euler for putting A Rush and a Push at #1.

1. Some Girls Are Bigger Than Others
2. I Know It’s Over
3. There Is A Light That Never Goes Out
4. Rubber Rin
5. Asleep
6. Shoplifters Of The World Unite
7. Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want
8. Heaven Knows I’m Miserable Know
9. This Charming Man
10. How Soon Is Now
11. Panic
12. Ask
13. Bigmouth Strikes Again
14. A Rush And A Push And The Land Is Ours
15. The Queen Is Dead
16. William, It Was Really Nothing
17. Girlfriend In A Coma
18. Nowhere Fast
19. Oscillate Wildly
20. London

Can anyone recommend some good Smiths live shows from the MiM and QiD tours? Also, were they known as a particularly good live act? Never saw them although I was a fan at the time, regret it now.

Nevermind, I got it (Thank Your Lucky Stars, LA 1986; Madrid, 1985)

I think there's a proshot video of that Madrid show on YouTube.

Thanks, brother

I have been listening to the Spotify playlist constantly at work since this countdown and think it's driving me a little batty :)

Coyness is nice!

And do you think you've made the right decision this time?