2016 NFL offseason news and sandwich recommendation thread

i would like him to succeed somewhere. ppl love to theorize about his personal failings but i would much prefer the story of his career to be that a terrible football organization nearly destroyed him but he bounced back and became the player it looked like he could be somewhere else.

well, there's certainly no way any team could treat him worse, except maybe the browns i guess

i don't know what is definite and what isn't but i read today kiko alonso + bryon maxwell are going to miami and demarco murray is going to tennessee.

calvin johnson officially retired

:'-c

wow, I guess better to retire a year early than a year late

So is there another thread where people are discussing what a piece of shit it looks like Peyton Manning is?

This is the last thing I read about it

http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2016/03/01/peyton-manning-jamie-naughright-1996-incident-greg-johnson-voicemail

brock to houston. denver had 2 qbs now they have none.

matt forte to ny football jets

dolphins cut brent grimes

speculation is the Broncos will pursue Kaepernick?

@mflynn3
Wow I know I'm going to get killed for this and I don't have a lot of room to talk, but this latest QB contract is unbelievable........

Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 3m3 minutes ago
For Olivier Vernon and the #Giants, I'm told it's the biggest defensive end deal in history with the most guaranteed money

more sandwich recs pls

i like vernon idk if its an overpay i mean prob it is but w/e

it (weirdly) occurred to me today that i miss clinton portis

looked him up to see what he's up to and learned he filed for bankruptcy a few months ago : /

with the giant hike in the cap teams are going wild and i guess it doesn't really matter, not as much as it would ordinarily. vernon is a very good player, at least they're paying for m/l a sure thing. meanwhile, the saints are paying 7m/yr for coby fleener. and to think they used to have a TE worth about that.

damn that is a shame about portis. to run the gauntlet as an RB and stay in the league a long time, then get to this point. whatever the story that is a bummer.

osweiler... is bad

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/12/22/clinton-portis-sets-the-record-straight-on-his-bankruptcy-case/

sounds like he had a bad gambling problem.

Everyone in the media is ripping the Browns for letting their players leave, even though 1. we all knew that was going to be their plan going in, and 2. history has shown first-day free agents are always overpaid.

http://www.clickhole.com/article/pure-class-peyton-manning-took-out-full-page-newsp-4078

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CdR_EdqVIAA0-7j.jpg

that's a spicy meatball sub

mark sanchez to the broncos!

guess there's another superbowl in their future!

SANCHIZE IV: THE HORSENING?

er, III, rather

philly it getting a 2017 conditional pick. honestly turning sanchez into anything, even a late round pick, is a miracle

i guess the broncos figure that they won a superbowl with a backup and a coatrack, why not get both for the price of one?

its not prima facie absurd no, esp. if they retool as an almost entirely run-based team

this though, idek:

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Major QB development: former Redskins QB Robert Griffin III is scheduled to visit the NY Jets later today, league source tells ESPN.

yes, the jets and the new york market is exactly the right environment for rg3 to turn his career back around

well if he's willing to sit for a year behind fitz (or more likely just wait for dude to break something) and keep a low profile it might work? Gino is toast out here.

reasonable plan if they pony up and pay fitz, but that's strangely up in the air rn. which is kinda baffling. like, dude, you worked really well in a system for the first time in a whiiiiiiiile, and...you wanna roll the dice on that happening again and keeping more than the bare-minimum-guaranteed part of the deal?

agreed; putting rg3 out there as a start-of-the-season starter under literally any circumstances is asking for trouble and any formulation that runs the risk of that happening is dumb

I'd think the Jets probably should sign Fitzpatric for good money for short years and draft a QB that could perhaps be ready to start in a year or two. It is the Jets, so whatever is the right decision, they will most likely do the opposite.

I'd think SF would be the place for RG3, considering they got one of the coaches that developed that style of offense he played at Baylor.

Classic free agent Mexican Standoff going on as it looks like everyone is waiting for the first team to make it so on the mediocre QB line. I like the idea that Kap would go to the Broncos, but he want them to beat Cleveland's offer. Fitz is 33 and holding out for the only big payday of his career, as he figures he is better than a couple of these guys that got paid (and he might have a point). I figure once those two go then where RGIII goes will happen. Same thing happens with baseball and NBA free agents more often.

There needs to be a 'replacement level' like term for the top of the bottom of the barrel like there is 'elite' in the QB mouthpiece ranking system.

Adam SchefterVerified account
‏@AdamSchefter
Cards-Pats blockbuster from @diannaESPN and me: Cards trade G Jonathan Cooper + 2nd-rd pick to NE for DE Chandler Jones, per sources.

daaaaamn

RIP Tray Walker

RGIII to the cleve

rip

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/15059418/arizona-cardinals-bruce-arians-people-let-kids-play-football-fools

URL should be "bruce-arians-people-who-dont-let-kids-play-football-are-fools"

dbrickeshaw ferguson retires cos he watched Concussion

"Since seeing Concussion, I can’t avoid wondering if I am in danger of experiencing some degree of brain injury when I am done playing. It couldn’t happen to me, right?

"... Though I cannot remember ever having a concussion, I now know as an offensive lineman that it is the frequency of collisions that can ultimately lead to brain injury. It’s a different conversation when you are involved in the story and not just watching a movie about it. I fear the unavoidable truth is that playing football has placed me in harm’s way, and I am not yet sure of the full extent of what it might cost me."

you forget that these guys are in their twenties and this shit simply hasn't occurred to them

which is to say "one forgets", not calling you out spottie

Yeah it's crazy and I don't blame them for retiring b4 it's too late. Get that money be smart with it and get out

the way the game is played is necessarily gonna change if/when 75% of the players opt to play three years and bounce.

Pay college players imo

cosine

green bay probably most promising in the nfc. i think vikings still have a reasonable chance at a wildcard but that division won't put up any resistance otherwise. seattle will still be a force, they do appear to still be declining from their heights but still it is only one year they've had off from the superbowl. i guess carolina have concerns with their secondary now, no josh norman and no safeties. arizona are probably the closest to gb/sea if palmer stays alive.

afc looks generally the worse of the conferences at the top again. hard to know what to expect from denver. pittsburgh i guess? them and the bengals from the north, the ravens seem to have real problems still. maybe one of the teams in the south will be good???

Colts maybe? Second Pitt. Figure Hawks should be decent again.

oh shiii

https://twitter.com/Phil_Lewis_/status/771356213992943616

welp

that's actually from several weeks ago. if he had done it after getting all that attention for the national anthem thing, i'd have rolled my eyes

washington hatcats will be super good this year.

that name still makes me happy

where to buy kaepernick's socks?

After the head of a national police organization blasted Colin Kaepernick on Thursday for wearing socks with cartoon pigs in police hats, the San Francisco 49ers quarterback said he didn't want the apparel to distract from his protest of racial inequalities in America.

On Instagram, Kaepernick said he wore the socks in practice to make a statement -- but did so before he made a public stance by refusing to stand for the national anthem at preseason games.

According to USA Today, Kaepernick has reportedly worn the socks as early as Aug. 10, but he had not been asked about them. Images of the socks were posted on social media Wednesday night and quickly created a stir.

"It's just ridiculous that the same league that prohibits the Dallas [Cowboys] football club from honoring the slain officers in their community with their uniforms stands silent when Kaepernick is dishonoring police officers with what he's wearing on the field," Bill Johnson, executive director of the National Association of Police Organizations, said, according to USA TODAY Sports.

"I think the league is in a downward spiral regarding their obligations to the public under [commissioner] Roger Goodell, and this is just another example of that."

MAKE NFL GREAT AGAIN

i had an hour long argument with my conservative mother in law about this

Relatives that watch a lot of Fox News seem to really enjoy arguing. It's like a cult.

Shaun Hill has had one of the stranger yet very long careers in football. It's even different than someone like a career backup like Don Strock who pretty much always played for the same coach and whose career straddled between two Hall of Fame starting QBs.

http://www.nfl.com/player/shaunhill/2504833/profile

Basically the guy was a back up for 5(!) seasons and only threw 1 ball then was a backup in SF. I really only first remember seeing him play that year he played a bunch for the Lions, don't really remember him on the Niners but they are rarely on TV around here and were not very good at all those years.. Odd thing is that he has been kinda effective in some ways at least compared to other long lasting backup QBs. I mean 62% comp. percentage and his QB/Int ratio isn't horrible nor really is an 85.2 career QB rating. I guess the knock is that he took a bunch of sacks, but that is better than throwing an INT I suppose.

Bradford to the Vikings for a 1st and a 4th...yikes!

That's pretty much saying to me, they are not sure Bridgewater will come back and some stories said it might take two years for him to do so since the knee came apart.

Vikings are built to win now as the defense is there and AP isn't going to get younger, so I can kinda see the gamble.

It will be interesting to see how this one plays out.

Eagles probably weren't going to be there this year anyway, those picks kind of make up some for the haul they gave away to get him from the Rams.

my first two thoughts

a. oh no chase daniel starter

b. congratz mcleod bethel-thompson!!!

wow what a mind meltingly stupid trade for minnesota. is bradford even an upgrade on shaun hill, especially minus an off season?

have iggles undone every kelly roster move now?

except obv for not rehiring mccoy jackson + maclin :(

Eagles might finish with worst record in the league, and... THE BROWNS HAVE THEIR PICK!!!!!

Chase Daniel always looked ok as Alex Smith's backup.

Numerous caveats there obviously

Shaun Hill was generally okay for the Lions. Bradford ain't exactly an upgrade

I think the reality is the young players the Viks drafted over the past couple years are going to be running into end of rookie contracts, so they are gambling on the now rather than wait till next year.

Is Bradford an upgrade...maybe, if he is healthy.

it's such a bad situation for bradford to go into - starting for a 3rd team in 3 years and w/ zero time to practice + develop chemistry w/ the offense before being thrown out there. it's almost not his fault if he can't put it together but there's only so many chances the guy gets before he's written off imo. wouldn't be surprised for this to blow up big time on the vikings. meanwhile philly must just be writing off this year bc chase looks like a mess and after a few losses fans will be demanding wentz go in.

i am torn between wanting to bitch about how i think this is the first season in a decade that I'm going to only casually watch and wanting someone to start a week one thread

One thing I heard on the radio this morning driving was that part of the deal why Bradford was chosen was that he had already played in the style offense that Norv Turner runs both in St. Louis and with the Eagles this year.
The Vikings didn't throw the ball that much last year as, they were 32nd in passing attempts. Turner is going to run the same offense he did with the Cowboys over 20 years ago, give the ball to AP 25 times a game and run play action passing. I'd figure Bradford would be way better suited to running that offense than that Star Trek crap that Chip Kelly was trying to run last year.

They gave up a 1st and a 4th. I don't think it was quite the Herschel Walker deal. 1st round picks are a crap shoot even for good clubs. I give them some credit for making it happen "now" and not waiting. I think to some extent they over play how 'complex' all this stuff is to some extent. Sure working with people over time improves things, but their D is built to win now, so I give them some credit for trying to go for it.

Sounds like it would at best be early next season until Bridgewater would be ready anyway and some reports state he might be out two seasons as since his knee gave way, it's going to be a bit more dicey to heal.

Think about the Browns a couple years ago that had a good D, solid O-line and the worst QBs in football...only thing they got was fired. Same deal with Rex with the Jets and the Bills a few years ago. Free Agency means clubs turn over every 2-3 years.

10/23 with the Vikings in Philly is going to be interesting now.

Being a Bears fan and watching Urlacher and Briggs play with so much scrub QB play, it would have been nice if the McCaskey's would have made the deal to get a QB when those guys were in their prime. Criminy they rode sexy Rexy and Weirdbeird into a NFC title game and a Superbowl... By the time they finally made the deal for Cutler, everyone was either gone or old.

smh
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/49ers-fb-bruce-miller-arrested-after-allegedly-punching-70-year-old-man-183250581.html

Niners PR team workin' OT the past couple weeks.

/years

STRAW POLL:
weekly threads
monthly threads
reg season thread

?

Weekly imo

weekly

I like the idea of one reg season rolling thread like hoops does tbh

can we all just watch baseball and basketball instead

yeah xp i like on reg season thread so i don't have to open and bookmark a new thread every week

my prob with season threads is they take forever to load if you find yourself find in the unfortunate position of wanting to look back through the thread

feel like we don't have enough volume to justify weekly threads anymore

weekly threads part of the beautiful tapestry of our shared tradition tho. it's tough.

weekly thread titles!

yeah i'm a big proponent of the lols offered by thread titles

*weekly thread titles

re: all iggles talk upthread didn't they announce wentz would start week 1?

yes