2016 NBA DRAFT

i think he's good. been figuring it out 2nd half the season. slowed himself down a bit. Russell too.

Georges Niang Cat?

how bad is simmons shooting no one knows since hes never shot

well the first google result for "ben simmons jump shot" is Ben Simmons might be shooting with the wrong hand so that's probably not good.

good lord

Simmons has attempted 265 non-jumpers so far this year. Despite being a left-handed shooter, only 10 of his non-jumpers were released with his left hand, 39 were with both hands, and 216 were with his right hand.

thats plain weird

maybe its cause hes from down under

*sits ben simmons down, puts arm over shoulder*

"ben, do you think you might be.....right-handed?"

lmao

lol harsh http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-ben-simmons-isn-t-the-top-prospect-in-the-2016-nba-draft-190023711.html

that article seems a bit unfair in a specifically woj way but also ingram does seem better?

yeah im liking ingram but simmons seem frequently utterly brilliant too

the total non shooting is obvs a huge red flag

also like, ingram could be really fucking good

i'm willing to give simmons a bit of a pass on the shooting stuff since it seems like he doesn't even have the basics -- i.e. which hand is your dominant hand -- down. like if he could even build up to a lebron-esque game of finishing very well at the rim with a midrange jumper that comes and goes and a passable three point shot then he should be a star given the rest of his game. but lebron is also a crazy unique individual so i see where the concerns about simmons' make up come in, it just seems a bit early to fault him.

but it will be really tough to make the number one pick either way

the nets not having a lottery pick until 2019 is still so unreal to me

v cool B-)

You know who Simmons reminds me of is Greg Monroe.

was there a heated argument about monroe on this board in the past few days or did i dream that?

it happened about 24 hours ago!

good profile of a guy who was probably really hard to profile (it's kawhi btw): http://www.si.com/nba/2016/03/15/kawhi-leonard-spurs-tim-duncan-gregg-popovich-tony-parker-manu-ginobili

oops wrong thread

https://vine.co/v/MjQATWDgZIa

ingram made an extremely nice block

there it is https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/710530512201207808

ingram is built like a damn spider

hes v thin but he has a p big frame like his shoulders are way wider than durants

yeah was just thinking that. he could have like a rondo type of frame when he puts a little weight on

it's hard for me to look at him and not think "this guy is going to be very very good in the nba"

he def seems like hes going to be very very good

draft xpress currently has him at #1

striaght up rooting for duke to make the champ game so i cn keep watching ingram

people haven't seemed to realize that coach k shifted duke to the one and done model and as such has had a bunch of really likable ballers in the last few years

was just thinking that

like traditionally basically created the one dimensonal hateable white but grayson allen is all threes and crazy drives to the basket i love watching him

duke basically created*

cant beat kentuky gotta join em

yeah and UNC has basically swung back the other direction, it's interesting

ingram was basically seen as a UNC lock for several years but ended up going w/ duke in the end

for a while it seemed like going w a second tier team that ran nba offense and didnt have other stars was the way to juice draft stock but calipari changed the math via putting 6 guys in the first round every year

allens got 22 w 2 left in the 1st

i haven't watched him at all, is he good or just college good

hell be a pro but prob not that great

tho when u can shoot anything is possible

hes projected as a bubble 1st rounder now

wait hold on there's another plumlee?

theres an endless supply of plumlees

i think the thing w/ allen is that he's only listed at 6' 5" so he's more a combo guard than a 3 and d guy. if he was 2 or 3 inches taller he would be a lottery pick. i.e. he's much more skilled than sam dekker but dekker has enough height to play on the wing.

but l feel like a lot of teams still have pretty poor guard depth. a lot of teams frankly don't even have three good guards so i feel like there's def a place for him in the league as a scorer off the bench.

im a plumlee but when my family immigrated from plumland they changed their family name to bison bc thats the english equivalent

wasnt damian a senior taken in the last 5 years?

nah jr. might have been a fourth year jr. tho?

huh yeah i think he was 22, figured he was a sr.

he was a 4-year player, he's more or less a senior and belongs in the same discussion as the rest of those guys

feel like hield should at least be as good as mccollum. fwiw mccollum also just had an insane shooting year as a senior.

some guys are late bloomers whatcha gonna do

a single season can be fluky tho especially when youre a grown man playing against teens

like this is dumb

http://i.imgur.com/4mq4yS1.png

he cld be a great shooter he cld also be just a good shooter

lol that red trendline really illuminates that he got better then regressed then improved again huh we are truly in the age of data

its a testament to his remarkable work ethic

hield moved up from 10 to 5 in chad fords 100

or maybe that was xpress that had him at 10, anyway hes at 7 there now

he shd give tip steph if he goes top 5

hield moved up from 10 to 5 in chad fords 100

― lag∞n, Monday, March 28, 2016 4:40 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

or maybe that was xpress that had him at 10, anyway hes at 7 there now

― lag∞n, Monday, March 28, 2016 4:41 PM (17 minutes ago)

check back in a few years to see where he ends up

haha

celtics ~30% chance of getting one of the top two picks http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/4/14/11429164/updated-boston-celtics-2016-nba-draft-odds

Fuck the Celtics.

rude

As a nuggets and celtics fan I wish this draft was better but maybe more international guys get in

nugs are gonna have to either make some sort of move or draft and stash, they're gonna have too many dudes

they've been drafting well

The nuggets def have too many players... They're at least 2 deep at every position other than PG (and Augustin isn't half bad). although that includes 2 SFs who are always injured.

Maybe time to move faried.

wait david thorpe sold me on simmons http://es.pn/1VeiQRM

wow, he is really high on him. as much as people have talked about length in recent years, it's interesting that simmons is notably not long for a 6'10" guy.

did not even realize he was that tall

yeah, maybe not, different sources have different numbers, and he didn't do the official combine measurements.

he does not look 6'10" irl, might be 6'8"

Concerns about Simmons?

The knock on Simmons as a shooter is somewhat overrated. Let's not forget that another do-it-all type of NBA star was not a good shooter in college. In two seasons, Kawhi Leonard shot 20.5 percent and 29.1 percent from 3, yet is a career 39-percent shooter in the NBA -- making 44 percent this season.

Simmons has a good-looking stroke, but he never looked as if he was willing to take 3-pointers, and was hesitant to take a lot of jump shots, period. Perhaps this was due to a coaching decision, as he was able to drive by or pass over most defenders. In the NBA, it is fair to expect he will shoot a lot of 3s and be at least good at it, in time.

[waves hands until they fall off]

yeah i am not sure how you get from 'he's not a good shooter' to 'he will shoot a lot of 3s and be good at it' that quickly

but simmons form is kinda terrible

Still think this draft is terrible. This is the draft where I'm gonna be that guy finally.

is bumping this thread during the national anthem of game 7 like one of those lebron subtweets where he tweets about a game being shown on nba tv while the warriors are disemboweling a team on tnt

anyway this draft is terrible, the celtics got screwed

blazers have no picks this draft. I am pretty non-committal about it. it will be interesting to see who gets simmons and whether he is worth his salt.

is bumping this thread during the national anthem of game 7 like one of those lebron subtweets where he tweets about a game being shown on nba tv while the warriors are disemboweling a team on tnt

Absolutely

Who would you take with the second pick in this draft?

guerschon yabusele

in all seriousness the top 3 are looking like sure fire allstars, simmons is obvs the best and ingram and brown are looking pretty even, id prob take brown if i had to choose but ingram cld easily turn out better he was a total revelation taking over ballhandling duties for the lakers this year, murray goes 4th then everyone else is looking pretty rough

o wait i missed taurean prince i like him too sabonis and brogdon are dece a few other guys will prob pan out to some extent, anyway its prob rare to have the best three players actually go in the top 3 spots but it looks like thats what happened here