but i don't want a loveri just want to be seeeenin the back of your car
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 March 2016 15:47 (eight years ago) link
Love this one. Lyrically it's one of my favourite songs ever and his deadpan delivery is so perfect.
― Kitchen Person, Thursday, 3 March 2016 15:50 (eight years ago) link
I am surprised that "These Things Take Time" wasn't on my ballot
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 15:51 (eight years ago) link
I voted for You've Got Everything Now. Great song!
― the toast of every coast (cajunsunday), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:11 (eight years ago) link
Morrissey's falsetto on this just kills me.
― one way street, Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:20 (eight years ago) link
You've Got Everything Now is one of my least favorite Smiths' songs, but it's still pretty good.
― sacral intercourse conducive to vegetal luxuriance (askance johnson), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:47 (eight years ago) link
I really like "You've Got Everything Now" EXCEPT for the falsetto
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:49 (eight years ago) link
I played it again a few minutes ago and it cracked my eyeglass frames.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:51 (eight years ago) link
but I always took it to be about this immeasurable grief of a bereaved parent rather than the murderers being plagued by guilt
― soref, Thursday, March 3, 2016 5:39 AM (3 hours ago)
yeah, I always thought of it as the haunting was being done by Hindley/Brady, and it wasn't just the parents being haunted, but "everyone" affected by the child murders. For some reason I remember (could be false memory) that some of that part was derived from actual things said by Myra & Ian in court?
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 March 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/QcuHKs7.jpg
46. FRANKLY, MR. SHANKLY (Album track from The Queen Is Dead)293 points | 14 votes
― nate woolls, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:04 (eight years ago) link
I tend to like the glass-shattering moments in the Smiths' discography, but I have a sneaking affection for histrionics. I read the end of "Suffer" along sarahell's lines: Hindley's guilt ("Hindley wakes") becomes the trauma of Manchester as a community (including the narrator).
― one way street, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link
I always felt "I Want The One I Can't Have" was the highlight of MIM, the band doing what they do best. It was in my top 5. A favorite of Morrissey's, it was rarely missing from their live sets.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link
too low
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:05 (eight years ago) link
I love the simplicity and humor of the verses contrasted with the sheer depth and complexity of the instrumental break section
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link
love the lyrics but i've never particularly liked the song
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:08 (eight years ago) link
I enjoy "Frankly, Mr. Shankly" but I wish it had an ending
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:09 (eight years ago) link
I like the idea of just stopping a song once it runs out of things to say
― Check Yr Scrobbles (Moodles), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:11 (eight years ago) link
"Give us your money" is a perfect ending!
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:13 (eight years ago) link
0/5
On a roll
― groovypanda, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:14 (eight years ago) link
like many of you, i've been on a smiths binge this week, and i kinda wish i had snuck Frankly into my ballot. in general i'm not a huge fan of upbeat songs (ignoring the lyrics) that make me feel like doing a big bouncy walk and eating ice cream, but the wordless chorus just rules
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:21 (eight years ago) link
That's what you would expect to have got so far if your tastes exactly correlated with the results.
― Eyeball Kicks, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
^^ lol
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:22 (eight years ago) link
"Shankly" a very solid entry in the canon, marred by terrible placement after that furious opening jam. Might have been better as a beloved b-side than an album track? Anyway, not in my ballot but deserves its spot in the list about here IMO.
― hardcore dilettante, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link
― sarahell, Thursday, March 3, 2016 4:57 PM (21 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh, I hadn't even considered that! I heard the 'we' in "we will be right by your side" as referring to the children, the parents being haunted by the children as a constant presence/absence
― soref, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:27 (eight years ago) link
I voted for 3/4 of the first four and regret failing to find room for the fourth. Blimey! On the other hand I didn't consider "Shankly" for even an instant, but it's still pretty great. Could "Vicar" perhaps be the only TQID track not to place?
― Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
For being such a canonical great album The Queen is Dead is often frivolous and flirts with banality, which is why I love it; it constantly undermines its own importance.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:29 (eight years ago) link
after 7 years on ilx, i'm rarely surprised how much other posters' tastes differ from mine
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:30 (eight years ago) link
love the way that 'Shankly' comes straight after the title track and also the transition from 'Vicar' to 'There Is A Light', aside from 'I Know It's Over' being followed by 'Never Had No One Ever' the whole album is really well sequenced imo
― soref, Thursday, 3 March 2016 17:35 (eight years ago) link
http://i.imgur.com/Cz9ABci.jpg
45. WHAT SHE SAID (B-side of 'Shakespeare's Sister' | Album track from Meat Is Murder)301 points | 13 votes | 1 first place vote
― nate woolls, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:06 (eight years ago) link
'Suffer Little Children' was one of those tracks that wasn't initially a favourite of mine, but grew on me a hell of a lot over time. It's probably one of the most creepy songs the band ever did. 'I Want The One I Can't Have' for me is one of those "this wasn't a single?" moments, and I've always loved 'Shankly' ...
'You've Got Everything Now' has never really been a favourite of mine, and probably has the worst use of Morrissey falsetto after 'Miserable Lie' ... I can't help but think it was a 2nd tied song for them even at that early stage.
― // S I M P L Y R E D // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:13 (eight years ago) link
'What She Said' fucking rules! Listening to the rhythm section on this in comparison with the stuff on the debut is like day and night. It wasn't an immediate favourite, but again, it's become a real favourite over time and it knocked me sideways when I last listened to Meat Is Murder. A real barnstormer.
― // S I M P L Y R E D // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
soto and soref otm re: tqid
― balls, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:16 (eight years ago) link
suffer little children is the only one of these that appeared on my ballot (at #10), to me it's a pretty quintessential smith's song in a lot of ways, depressing as hell subject matter (how many songs can you put on your debut album about child abuse/murder? a few if youre the smiths), "Manchester, so much to answer for" is a classic moz lyric, nice marr guitar twiddlings
― Cornelius Pardew (jim in glasgow), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:18 (eight years ago) link
xpost:
Yeah, the only sequencing issue I have with The Queen Is Dead is the placement of 'Never Had No One Ever' ... but where else could it have gone? It's definitely my least favourite track on there... yeah, I do prefer 'Vicar In A Tutu' ...
― // S I M P L Y R E D // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:20 (eight years ago) link
They got a lot of shit for 'Suffer Little Children', iirc.
― // S I M P L Y R E D // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:24 (eight years ago) link
i may have voted 'vicar in a tutu' but this girl i had a crush on always did this charming af performance of it at karaoke so extenuating circumstances
― balls, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:25 (eight years ago) link
I remember at the time telling people "Oh I love country music, check this out" and then playing them "Vicar In a Tutu"
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
yes, there's a scan of a contemporary article here: https://braceneckboy.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/smiths-moors-row.jpg
(also typed up about halfway down this page: http://www.tiptopwebsite.com/websites/index2.php?username=thesmithsfile&page=8)
― soref, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
― sarahell, Thursday, March 3, 2016 9:30 AM (1 hour ago
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:33 (eight years ago) link
"what she said" is great, i nearly voted for it
― HYPERLINK TO RAP GENIUS (BradNelson), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:34 (eight years ago) link
I should have voted for it: it has such momentum.
― one way street, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:47 (eight years ago) link
love what she said, was in my top 10. great song, great vocal performance. what she said/rubber ring obv classic too
― Roberto Spiralli, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:48 (eight years ago) link
"What She Said" was in my top ten too. Largely for the lyrics, which I find hilariously over the top. "What she said was sad" obviously, but this is one that comes to mind when Morrissey insists there's more humour in his writing than is widely recognised.
― Maximum big surprise! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link
I like the way that 'What She Said' sounds unlike so everything else on Meat Is Muder, murky and heavy where the rest of the album sounds clean and thin - it sounds more like a song from the debut or Hatful. and momentum is right, it sounds like it's about to careen out of control. I never heard it as being tounge is cheek, it seems like one of Morrissey's least ironic lyrics, it sounds genuinely horrified
― soref, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link
tounge IN cheeck, rather
goes on way too long IMO. could be said of a lot of the MIM tracks mind, that's one thing they lost post-Hatful; timing. whole album could have a good 5 minutes shaved off.
― piscesx, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link
I love "Suffer" despite the lyrics, which I think are pretty clumsy. I could listen to the guitar track over and over.
xp "What She Said" is the first Smiths song I ever owned, on an NME 7" I picked up in a used shop. It made me fall in love. Love "I smoke 'cause I'm hoping for an early death and I need to cling to something".
― Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
xxxxpost:
I think the humour in some of Morrissey's lyrics is impossible to miss, to be honest with you. Like the verse about breaking into the palace on 'The Queen Is Dead' ... "Eh, I know you and you cannot sing/I said 'That's nothing, you should hear me play piano'"
― // S I M P L Y R E D // LOVE (Turrican), Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link
pian-ER
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:58 (eight years ago) link
that's one thing they lost post-Hatful; timing
there are plenty of songs that go on too long both before MiM and after
― sarahell, Thursday, 3 March 2016 18:59 (eight years ago) link