IF IT'S NOT LOVE THEN IT'S THE POLL THAT WILL BRING US TOGETHER - ILM Artist Poll #72 - THE SMITHS - RESULTS THREAD

astonished this got 80 ballots and beat Steely Dan's 77 ballots.

i didn't even get a chance to vote despite listening to the Smiths catalog, real life got in the way.

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There's footage of them playing it at a gig in Germany on Youtube and when the track breaks down to just the bass and drums, Marr takes off his guitar and begins to shimmy around onstage, dancing with Moz.

at 26:07
https://youtu.be/2Y7YnL9SPjs

― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, March 2, 2016 7:50 PM

There's footage of them playing it at a gig in Germany on Youtube and when the track breaks down to just the bass and drums, Marr takes off his guitar and begins to shimmy around onstage, dancing with Moz.

yeah, love that video. and the song. I wish there were more funky smiths tracks !

Most regrettable white man dancing I've seen in weeks

Interesting! I never thought to look up actual audio before now. (But probably old news for many.)
Surviving demo from Marr/Rourke's pre-Smiths funk-oriented outfit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s-vZtJ3SV8

Most regrettable white man dancing I've seen in weeks

The Dorks ! I'm even surprised Moz accepted to sing on a funky music, really...

Top 50 starting soon..

Big big thanks to Johnny Fever for providing the graphics for the rundown. He's done a brilliant job, far better than I could've done - pivot tables and vlookups I'm good with, graphics and designs not so much.

Kicking off the top 50 rundown with a cheery little number..

http://i.imgur.com/RFKA77Q.jpg

50. SUFFER LITTLE CHILDREN (B-side of 'Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now' | Album track from The Smiths)
258 points | 13 votes

suffer adult listeners

I kind of had the way that I hear this song upended earlier this week when I read a something that quotes this part:

But we will be, we will be, we will be, right by your side
Until the day you die
This is no easy ride
We will haunt you when you laugh
Yes, you could say we're a team
You might sleep
You might sleep
You might sleep
BUT YOU WILL NEVER DREAM !

and the writer seemed to think that the 'you' here refers to Brady and Hindley, but ever since I first heard the song I always assumed that the 'you' was the parents of the missing children, that it was a reference back to the 'A woman said : "I know my son is dead' line, and it never occurred to me that it could read a different way. I'd be interested to know how other people had heard it

always assumed brady/hindley

i like this song but it is in about the right place imo. but then on going through i realized there are only maybe 10 songs in the catalogue i would say i don't like.

I'm starting to think I'm wrong and that Brady/Hindley is the 'correct' reading, but I always took it to be about this immeasurable grief of a bereaved parent rather than the murderers being plagued by guilt

http://i.imgur.com/20DNMD4.jpg

49. I WANT THE ONE I CAN'T HAVE (Album track from Meat Is Murder)
262 points | 12 votes

I didn't end up voting for anything from Meat Is Murder. This and Well I Wonder were the only ones that made my long list.

i have this as the second worst song on MIM after the title track and this song is great so...pretty good album.

xp crazy talk

wow that's already two from my ballot

the images are great

re: the images...I was only able to get today's 10 done last night before my computer said "fuck you, I'm tired," but a lot of these are Roger Mayne photos (noted source of actual Smiths/Moz cover art). I'm gonna run out of usable Mayne material before long, though, so other post-war street photographer names are welcome.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=shirley+baker&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwikiZfA3KTLAhWLF5oKHbVsDIUQ_AUIBygB&biw=1280&bih=899

Perfect, thanks!!!

http://i.imgur.com/co0rZmc.jpg

48. THESE THINGS TAKE TIME (B-side of 'What Difference Does It Make?' 12")
285 points | 12 votes | 2 first place votes

0/3 so far

This is my first vote to place. I like their barnburner songs.

My first vote to place too. So much better than the A-side.

Quite fond of the A-side as well. :(

That's one of the hits that has been totally overplayed over the years for me. I'd always hear it when I went out and even though I don't really go out that much anymore, I still don't get a lot out of it.

http://i.imgur.com/1Kfs05a.jpg

47. YOU'VE GOT EVERYTHING NOW (Album track from The Smiths)
292 points | 14 votes

another one of mine! think this was the moment when first listening to the s/t where i thought, "ok i love this band now"

but i don't want a lover
i just want to be seeeen
in the back of your car

Love this one. Lyrically it's one of my favourite songs ever and his deadpan delivery is so perfect.

I am surprised that "These Things Take Time" wasn't on my ballot

I voted for You've Got Everything Now. Great song!

Morrissey's falsetto on this just kills me.

You've Got Everything Now is one of my least favorite Smiths' songs, but it's still pretty good.

I really like "You've Got Everything Now" EXCEPT for the falsetto

I played it again a few minutes ago and it cracked my eyeglass frames.

but I always took it to be about this immeasurable grief of a bereaved parent rather than the murderers being plagued by guilt

― soref, Thursday, March 3, 2016 5:39 AM (3 hours ago)

yeah, I always thought of it as the haunting was being done by Hindley/Brady, and it wasn't just the parents being haunted, but "everyone" affected by the child murders. For some reason I remember (could be false memory) that some of that part was derived from actual things said by Myra & Ian in court?

http://i.imgur.com/QcuHKs7.jpg

46. FRANKLY, MR. SHANKLY (Album track from The Queen Is Dead)
293 points | 14 votes

I tend to like the glass-shattering moments in the Smiths' discography, but I have a sneaking affection for histrionics. I read the end of "Suffer" along sarahell's lines: Hindley's guilt ("Hindley wakes") becomes the trauma of Manchester as a community (including the narrator).

I always felt "I Want The One I Can't Have" was the highlight of MIM, the band doing what they do best. It was in my top 5. A favorite of Morrissey's, it was rarely missing from their live sets.

too low

I love the simplicity and humor of the verses contrasted with the sheer depth and complexity of the instrumental break section

love the lyrics but i've never particularly liked the song

I enjoy "Frankly, Mr. Shankly" but I wish it had an ending

I like the idea of just stopping a song once it runs out of things to say