Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

I assume it's because they know/hope the unedited versions will be available on DVD

They announced to book fans that TV Avasarala would be very different in her first scene (water balloon assault punished by tickling). When combined with the 20 hour gravity torture she becomes a complex character in just two scenes. The comic relief has been redistributed to Alex & Amos. I expect Avasarala will provide profane fan service once removed from family and immediate superiors, and with her progressive exasperation.

Upon reading the books, there's some remarkably efficient screenwriting going on, particularly in episodes 1, 3, and 9. There's also so much background detail to catch in reviewings: the 90 second tracking shot at 4 minutes into the premiere encompasses 40 pages of descriptive text.

the pilot of the Canterbury / Rocinante is one of the worst actors I have ever seen in anything, pro or amateur - it is astonishing to watch the man work

I like how certain bits of the world-building they just sort of gave up on, like, yeah, everyone's basically got phones they look at all the time, and bars will probably be playing Basic Channel style techno, good enough

ugh hate the pilot sooooo much

Cas Anvar (who plays the Alex, pilot) has [a career of hamming it up](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKvSt69Whr8), but to be fair Alex in the books has the Texas drawl adopted by Indian and Chinese immigrants to the Mariner Valley, and in the books the accent disappears during stressful events (MCRN conditioning). The authors also view Alex as the dumb one who blurts what's on his surface.

When we have Oscar winners most notable for squinting meaningfully, its hard for me to kvetch about acting according to some weird marionette strings.

xp: A few have gone ahead and gotten the full cybernetic implants, but for baseline humans, the smartphone, or as they call it in the books, datacube, is a pretty optimal format. It also allowed them to shorthand the pathos of Miller with his perpetually cracked phone.

It's not his accent - most of the accents are weird in this show - and I don't think he's actually that hammy - Thomas Jane is way hammier. It's like he literally doesn't know what speech rhythms humans use to communicate with each other.

P sure he thinks he's in Firefly

Before/after reels from Spin VFX and Rocket Science VFX. Spoilers to Season 1, obv.

the guy who plays Amos is awesome, probably my favorite actor in the whole thing.

Yep. I'd rank em (Why? its ILX):

Wes Chatham - Amos Burton
Shohreh Aghdashloo - Chrisjen Avasarala
Thomas Jane - Joe Miller
Chad L. Coleman - Col. Frederick Lucius Johnson (shone in The Wire, utterly wasted in The Walking Dead)
Dominique Tipper - Naomi Nagata (sometimes a bit too inscrutable)
Florence Faivre - Julie Mao (impressive, considering she's a model with a few walkons)
Steven Strait - Jim Holden (too young, not enough gravitas for this role)
Shawn Doyle - Sadavir Errinwright (a Paul Reiser for our time)
Cas Anvar - Alex Kamal (I defended him above, but he's got the worst script)

Special mention:

Greg Bryk - Lopez (the Martian intel officer who went from creepy to heroic in 2 episodes)
Elias Toufexis - Kenzo (the stowaway spy. Stayed creepy, and convincingly played unconvincing)

how can you be forgetting Jared Harris as Anderson Dawes, leader of the OPA on Ceres?? He'd be #2 on my list. Despite having to say some of the most ludicrous lines in the series, which is saying something, and despite having to adopt this weirdo Belter Afrikaans/Carib patois

For all of Thomas Jane's quirks & corniness, when he finally finds the girl (spoilers etc) it was genuinely sad & v moving

Halfway through this, after recommendation on the Netflix thread. So fun!

I'm ashamed to say I only really started getting into it after the ((spoiler)) headsplodey incident in episode 4. But I'm totally hooked now. The characters are super blank, but the plot and FX are fun enough that it doesn't matter. They've done an amazing job of making it look expensive, even though you know it's really cheap. I don't think I've ever seen a TV show shot in Toronto that looks expensive.

Jared Harris's accent though, bloody hell. He sounds like Adam Buxton doing a voice.

yeah it's kind of a slow burn at first, but it ramps up to be v enjoyable

Good grief that accent! Maybe JH is such a nice guy that nobody had the heart to tell him to stop doing it.

it's v upsetting

Was hoping that revival of thread might be a sign that there was a season 2 imminent. Was really getting into this when the series ended.

season 2 is slated for spring iirc?

Hope so. Would like some more

17 Jan!

boooooo

JAN not JUN!

Shame it ain't sooner nonetheless. It went over the winter last year according to IMDB. Started in November.
But great that there is a concrete date for its return. Looking forward to seeing it.

Yes. Almost as excited for this as I am for the new Nintendo

That finale was REALLY good. Some Caves of Androzani vibes. Definitely a "grim 80s Doctor Who" thing going on.

Has anyone read the books - could I pick up the 2nd book where this leaves off?

yeah otm re the dark Whovian vibe.

Weird how critical I was on this thread - in my memory this ruled unconditionally

Maybe a year of attempting to fill the void with garbage like Killjoys has done this

I've just started this. E2 was a bit slow but let's see what happens.

Yeah, the first three episodes are a slog, but it hits a groove with the 4th and keeps getting better.

That finale was REALLY good. Some Caves of Androzani vibes. Definitely a "grim 80s Doctor Who" thing going on.

Has anyone read the books - could I pick up the 2nd book where this leaves off?

Just checked. Chapter 31 of the first book is basically the last one covered in season one.

Thanks! Think I'll read from the start. Seems readable enough from the excerpt.

@ Chuck

I've listened to all the audiobooks. Season 1 ended about 2/3 of the way through the first book Leviathan Wakes, while including elements of the novella The Butcher of Anderson Station. The rest are fairly good, with the exception of book 4 Cibola Burn, which is a chore one could skip, excepting a few moments of exposition about the makers of the protomolecule.

Just binge watched this, didn't realise it ended on a cliffhanger! Hope season 2 comes to netflix uk quickly. Agreed that episode 4 is where it got good, after that I was prepared to forgive its faults - such as the entire earth government apparently consisting of two people, or the fortunate existence of bulletproof sofas.

Hope season 2 comes to netflix uk quickly

I was about to bump this thread and complain that February can't come soon enough

In print, Avasarala doesn't appear until book 2 (which we might see covered mid-season 2). Having read the series, I think the screenwriters did a great job pulling an Earth perspective into the exposition.

I love Shohreh Aghdashloo's voice so much I want to d/l some of the handful of audiobooks she's narrated for sleepytime.

some of the accents in this show. it's really offputting.

Jared Harris especially.. what is going on?

red herring designed to throw you off - !stay the course!

Scuttlebutt on the subreddit earlier this year was that the 2nd season cuts way back on Belter language. Somewhat disappointing, as that added to the sense of place, but to be fair, they did a lousy job emphasizing that everyone on Ceres spoke the creole.

it's funny how many of the characters in Ep 1 I just assumed were going to be around for awhile!

lol @ hunkademus cap'n jim having such good zero-g sex he has to literally wipe away a tear after descending to full-g

"here comes the juice" indeed

also i, er, forgot that shohreh aghdashloo runs an earth-based torture camp where rubber-limbed belters wilt until they talk, or die

fuck! I can't wait for this.

Hint from Book 6: both are safe.

i got excited cos i thought it was back in Jan but then realized no, not til Feb :/

sooon

yeah parts of s1 were dodgy but I am hopeful for s2, it's doing things no other show is doing and it has the bonus of not being completely humorless about it

For those listening to the audio books, Cibola Burn will be re-recorded by Jefferson Mays (narrator of the rest of the series).

I'm through to the end of book 6. Like most sci-fi with eschatological aspirations, its a bit underwhelming, but here I suspect its because they wasted 3 books fleshing out a diaspora and its discontents.

Here's hoping for a more provocatie books 7-9.

Yeah, thought the latest book was fairly mediocre.

Imagine (hope) the final "trilogy" will be better though.

It's cool that it focuses on Drummer