bob dylan and the band - the basement tapes / the complete basement tapes

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not a bitch for me!

Genghis Khan and his brother Don (G00blar), Monday, 13 April 2009 09:20 (fifteen years ago) link

Maybe so. Maybe you saw something different than what I saw. Not a prob. What I saw was impenetrable bullshit about ten times.

Gross Chapel British Grenadiers (Bimble), Monday, 13 April 2009 09:26 (fifteen years ago) link

Got it now, though, 80% as of now.

Gross Chapel British Grenadiers (Bimble), Monday, 13 April 2009 09:28 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd just like to know, though, anyone else coming to this thread for the first time...what was your experience on clicking on that link?

Gross Chapel British Grenadiers (Bimble), Monday, 13 April 2009 09:32 (fifteen years ago) link

it was the most taxing puzzle ever devised

Ward Fowler, Monday, 13 April 2009 09:34 (fifteen years ago) link

Okay I got 'em now folks, but I want to know why the fuck I can't rename the tags so I can actually add them to my iPod. Talk about a Rubik's Cube.

Gross Chapel British Grenadiers (Bimble), Monday, 13 April 2009 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

Elitism at its finest.

Gross Chapel British Grenadiers (Bimble), Monday, 13 April 2009 09:42 (fifteen years ago) link

http://wahmbulance.ytmnd.com/

Matos W.K., Monday, 13 April 2009 10:24 (fifteen years ago) link

http://i4.ytimg.com/vi/7AiYy8cKE7s/default.jpg

europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 12:39 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd just like to know, though, anyone else coming to this thread for the first time...what was your experience on clicking on that link?

I'll tell you what it wasn't: "you have to come up with a better way of giving me something for free"

Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 13 April 2009 12:58 (fifteen years ago) link

I mean I know you'll just go on thinking of things in an infantile & narcissistic "oh these are my ENEMIES, that's why they're telling me to check myself" instead of even for a second considering that you are in the wrong here & should check yourself

Just one thing I was thinking about as I was getting on the copter (J0hn D.), Monday, 13 April 2009 12:59 (fifteen years ago) link

I'd just like to know, though, anyone else coming to this thread for the first time...what was your experience on clicking on that link?
I typed in the letters and then clicked. Within 5 minutes I had the download. It was quite simple, and I'm very grateful to thirdalternative.

Jazzbo, Monday, 13 April 2009 13:21 (fifteen years ago) link

There is another supposed version of this floating around, with slightly different track listing; the sound is better than on Tree With Roots but not as good as the link above, IMO. Available for the moment here:
http://croz.fm/files/bob_dylan_and_the_band_basement_safety_tape.php

EZ Snappin, Monday, 13 April 2009 13:44 (fifteen years ago) link

listening to this on a decent soundsystem now (yesterday I had to make due with the cheap guest room player) - definitely sounds good! A bit crisper, some organ/piano stuff that I haven't noticed before. not like the holy grail or anything, but it's always good to be reminded how amazing the basement tapes are. i always think about how much of a game changer this would've been had it been released in 1967-68. Obviously it WAS released via bootleg, and was super-influential in its own way, but if Dylan had actually put it out as an official statement, warts and all, I think it might have totally changed music history, and the way people look at albums/recording/etc. whaddaya think?

tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

and oh man, "I'm Not There"! That song always starts and I think: "Eh, what's the big deal here?" And by the end I'm totally wrapped up in it. You can certainly hear the band a bit better on this track.

tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 14:41 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, similarly entranced by "I'm Not There."

Genghis Khan and his brother Don (G00blar), Monday, 13 April 2009 14:49 (fifteen years ago) link

Richard Manuel's voice — which I hear better than ever now — is entrancing me as well.

Jazzbo, Monday, 13 April 2009 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, richard sounds great -- as does Dylan. The idea that this is the same guy who less than a year before was tearing through the UK on that insane tour is astonishing. Total reinvention.

tylerw, Monday, 13 April 2009 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

i'm not big on dylan but "i'm not there" is incredible here

europeen handball (k3vin k.), Monday, 13 April 2009 15:13 (fifteen years ago) link

listened to this new safety reel on the bus to work this morning -- stereo separation is really nice, you can hear bits and pieces of instrumentation that were murky before. loved "rocks off" -- Dylan's cackle in the middle of it, and the way he sings "greeeeyhound bussss" ... Robertson's guitar on "I Shall Be Released" ...! The clicking drum part on the chorus of "You Ain't Goin Nowhere" ... Just a ton of wonderful stuff.

tylerw, Thursday, 16 April 2009 15:45 (fifteen years ago) link

I didn't realize how great "Goin' to Acapulco" was until this past week.

Genghis Khan and his brother Don (G00blar), Friday, 24 April 2009 11:28 (fifteen years ago) link

oh man this just made my favorite record better.

thirdalternative for president.

dad a, Monday, 4 May 2009 01:59 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

oh wow. big brother rears his head:

In response to a complaint we received under the US Digital Millennium Copyright Act, we have removed 1 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read the DMCA complaint that caused the removal(s) at ChillingEffects.org.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 11 February 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago) link

Hmm, well that megaupload still works, and no 'numbers' needed to be entered, etc.

Mark G, Friday, 11 February 2011 01:42 (thirteen years ago) link

"Ferdinand the Imposter" from the '75 release is so pretty and haunting. Reminds me of Screen Prints.

blank, Friday, 11 February 2011 03:46 (thirteen years ago) link

Probably doesn't count as true "basement tape" song.. Demo from just before recording Music From Big Pink, i think?

blank, Friday, 11 February 2011 03:48 (thirteen years ago) link

you know what song from the basement tapes is good? the french girl.

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 11 February 2011 05:12 (thirteen years ago) link

thrreee silver ringgsss

Trip Maker, Friday, 11 February 2011 06:03 (thirteen years ago) link

sign on the cross is pretty good too. has anyone written about this stuff? /joke

by another name (amateurist), Friday, 11 February 2011 06:59 (thirteen years ago) link

it *is* kind of amazing that they -- (ok, COLUMBIA) are up to this "official bootleg" box set number NINE or something? -- and have *still* not released these tapes in official form.

I can only guess that it is somewhere in Bob's will ... it's like, "ok, 'Bootleg series' 11 should have been '{whatever you call it}', and if I am dead and gone, you have my full release to fully release 'The Complete Basement Tapes' as the next issue in the series"

Stormy Davis, Friday, 11 February 2011 07:18 (thirteen years ago) link

Well, I guess it's in the same bag as the "Dylan" album, i.e. it's been out in a form already so cannot revise it back into "bootleg" status, official or no.

Mark G, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:28 (thirteen years ago) link

Gene Clark did 'the French girl'. That's good.

the pinefox, Friday, 11 February 2011 09:45 (thirteen years ago) link

french girl is so good, such a cheesy song, but dylan (and clark too) make it seem so intense. "no englisssshhh words for meeee"

tylerw, Friday, 11 February 2011 20:24 (thirteen years ago) link

one of my fave basement tapes things is "one man's loss" which is just kinda gibberish, but the chorus is fab
one man's loss always is another man's gain
one man's joy always is another man's pain

tylerw, Friday, 11 February 2011 20:28 (thirteen years ago) link

and have *still* not released these tapes in official form.

one problem might be all the covers in the full tapes ... would have to pay lots of licensing rights.

by another name (amateurist), Sunday, 13 February 2011 05:45 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know of a good list of all the released covers of basement tapes songs from before their official (1975?) release.

by another name (amateurist), Thursday, 24 February 2011 09:00 (thirteen years ago) link

it *is* kind of amazing that they -- (ok, COLUMBIA) are up to this "official bootleg" box set number NINE or something? -- and have *still* not released these tapes in official form.
Yeah, really. Columbia could just release its own version of the Safety Master and it would be the most written-about, critically acclaimed Bootleg Series entry yet. The original release and subsequent remaster pale in comparison.

Jazzbo, Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:42 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know of a good list of all the released covers of basement tapes songs from before their official (1975?) release.
i think there's an extensive list of covers in that million dollar bash book that came out a few years ago. not sure if there's one online though.

tylerw, Thursday, 24 February 2011 19:47 (thirteen years ago) link

one problem might be all the covers in the full tapes ... would have to pay lots of licensing rights.

There are no "licensing rights" - they'd have to pay the standard mechanical royalty rate to the songwriters, which is the same amount they'd pay to Dylan or Robertson or whomever. So, covers wouldn't cost a single penny extra.

crustaceanrebel, Thursday, 24 February 2011 20:32 (thirteen years ago) link

does anyone know of a good list of all the released covers of basement tapes songs from before their official (1975?) release.

asking this Q again, just in case anyone missed it.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 28 February 2011 18:46 (thirteen years ago) link

From the wiki page:

Peter, Paul and Mary, managed by Grossman, had the first hit with a basement composition when their cover of "Too Much of Nothing" reached number 35 on the Billboard chart in late 1967.[47] Ian & Sylvia, also managed by Grossman, recorded "Tears of Rage", "Quinn the Eskimo" and "This Wheel's on Fire".[48] In January 1968, Manfred Mann reached number one on the UK pop chart with their recording of "The Mighty Quinn".[49] In April, "This Wheel's on Fire", recorded by Julie Driscoll, Brian Auger and the Trinity, hit number five on the UK chart.[50] That same month, a version of "You Ain't Goin' Nowhere" by The Byrds was issued as a single. Along with "Nothing Was Delivered", it appeared on their country-rock album Sweetheart of the Rodeo, released in August.[51] The Hawks, officially renamed the Band,[a 5] recorded "This Wheel's on Fire", "I Shall Be Released" and "Tears of Rage" for their debut album, Music from Big Pink, released in July 1968. Fairport Convention covered "Million Dollar Bash" on their 1969 album Unhalfbricking.[52]

Mark G, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:16 (thirteen years ago) link

There was also that Coulson, Dean, McGuinness, Flint album "Lo and Behold," which was entirely comprised of covers of unreleased Dylan tunes.

Thus Sang Freud, Tuesday, 1 March 2011 12:53 (thirteen years ago) link

two months pass...

digging back into the tree with roots set. oh man, so good. how is this dylan the same dylan of previous years? like he's inventing a different voice for every song.

tylerw, Friday, 6 May 2011 21:26 (twelve years ago) link

Here you go, the Safety Tape, download the zip file, unzip, and voila:

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DDT8WSLO

― thirdalternative, Sunday, 12 April 2009 12:56 (2 years ago)

I've had "Tree With Roots" for a long time but any additional fidelity would be sweet -- re-up that link if possible.

suspecterrain, Saturday, 7 May 2011 02:29 (twelve years ago) link

Just found this:
http://www.mediafire.com/?zmt3bhdnyuz

Enrique, Saturday, 7 May 2011 03:12 (twelve years ago) link

three weeks pass...

that coulson/dean/mcguinness/flint lp is pretty damn good.

by another name (amateurist), Saturday, 28 May 2011 09:49 (twelve years ago) link

two years pass...

Burnett and Costello spoke of trying to honor the spirit of the original recordings

...

“This is the exact opposite of ‘The Basement Tapes’: We’re in the best recording studio in the world, and we’re not in a basement.’ ”

ffs

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:07 (ten years ago) link

And they're not using tape!

Mark G, Wednesday, 26 March 2014 15:08 (ten years ago) link


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