ILX Gonna Shine in My Backdoor Someday (new post-Fahey folk for ppl posting in Takoma/Tompkins Square threads Pt II)

i listened to this -- and I LIKED IT. eno cover really takes off!

thanks! i'm glad you liked it! :D i felt like i had just started cookin and then the set was over but i guess it's better to play too little than too much.

Wow that is great!
Also late period nnck/cul de sac/noise noodling Fahey kinda means we can justify about anything tbh :)

that is ilx user n/a on guitar noodles

i'm into it

Good noodling!

Yeah this is cool! Nice work LL.

new chuck johnson is super dope

Argh, I forgot I need to pick that up!

Also just put on LL's set. Excited to listen :)

anyone heard of these instruments?? this rules
http://www.vhfrecords.com/catalog/jesse-sparhawk-eric-carbonara-sixty-strings-lpcd-vhf129
"Sixty Strings is an album of two epic duets by Eric Carbonara (22-string upright Chaturangui guitar) and Jesse Sparhawk (38 string lever harp)."
― robbie ca$hflo (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, March 1, 2016 1:17 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

seconding this- just ordered the LP

parts of chuck johnson really remind me of william tyler's recent stuff

Hey, my Glenn Jones preorder just shipped!

Oh really? Did not know there was a pre-order. Nice!

Yeah! Here you go: http://www.thrilljockey.com/products/fleeting

May try to hold out and buy from Glenn directly, but we will see. May not be able to wait!

xp - thanks for listening! more shows more shows more shows.

Got blazed and listened to Avocet tonight. Nice record, though I'm not sure I love it as much as you guys (yet?). I realize I'm probably not as intimately familiar with Jansch's solo career as some of you, but this one definitely feels like an anomaly to me, what with the chorus effects on the guitar and that one (vibe-destroying) solo piano track (I also could have done without the flutes, but that's a personal bias!). It's a record I will definitely be going back to, as there are some really nice tunes (the aforementioned "Kingfisher," "Kittiwake") and some little corners my ears need to further explore; you'll notice upthread I wasn't immediately sold on Gimmer, either, and now I'm playing it every day. This one feels like a grower, too.

http://www.newyorkguitarfestival.org/schedule/2016-05-14-100000/audible-cloisters-guitar-marathon

ryley walker and william tyler (and sarah lipstate and dylan carlson and others) playing at the cloisters which is a ludicrously beautiful building.

anyone familiar with the other players? it sounds like they are at least going for a very inclusive program

"Into the Earth" is v nice.

Had the pleasure to talk to Rick and Che from 75 Dollar Bill while they were in Europe last week, told me they finished a new record on Thin wrist with extended band, which should be out before summer. > https://www.mixcloud.com/Sterrenplaten/sterrenplaten-04-maart-2016-75-dollar-bill/

Playlist obv seriously ILM inspired: Gunn/Truscinski and other time travel/outernational stuff

really loved the wooden Bag EP, will want to hear that.

anyone see this?
http://www.northcountryprimitive.com/uploads/4/8/8/5/4885760/5571284.jpg?711
3/10/2016 Columbia City Theater Seattle, WA
3/12/2016 Artichoke Music Portland, OR
3/15/2016 Fenix Live San Rafael, CA
3/19/2016 Kuumbwa Jazz Center Santa Cruz, CA
3/25/2016 Mighty Fine Guitars Lafayette, CA
3/26/2016 Blvd. Music Culver City, CA
3/31/2016 Coffee Gallery Backstage Altadena, CA
4/02/2016 Alvas Showroom San Pedro, CA
4/09/2016 Fret House Covina, CA
TBA Museum of the Arts Phoenix, AZ

Joan Shelley & Nathan Salsburg are playing half hour up the road this coming Wednesday, and I can't go. Ffs.

cancel yr plans! cancel everything!

Unless I can smuggle my 7&10 year olds in, I'm screwed. Perhaps I could get one to sit on the shoulders of the other and put them in a big overcoat...

haha, yeah, that'd be tough ...
this was the front row when they played my place last december, though
https://instagram.fsnc1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t51.2885-15/e35/12328308_1664262143855670_1838067421_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTEzODg3MjI5NjIwODE4NDI5OA%3D%3D.2

I still can't quite believe you had them in your lounge. It's utterly magnificent.

yall see this, over on the Tompkins Square thread? I'm told some other heavy guests might show up here and there:

The Record Store of the Mind
Book Tour 2016
17 Cities. 17 Special Guests.

"One of the most thoroughly enjoyable, informative, wise and good-hearted books ever written about music and the industry"
-- MOJO * * * * 4 STARS

"What pulls its disparate elements together is the accommodating warmth and wit of his writing and the wealth of great stories he has to tell"
-- UNCUT 8/10

Tompkins Square label's Josh Rosenthal will read from his new book, 'The Record Store of the Mind', w/ Special Guests :

April 2 - Deep Thoughts, Jamaica Plain MA w/ Sam Moss
April 3 - Feeding Tube Records, Northampton MA w/ Trevor Healy
April 4 - Albany Public Library, Albany NY w/ Mike Eck
April 5 - Rocket 99, Kingston NY w/ Peter Walker
April 6 - Secret Project Robot, Brooklyn NY w/ Kid Millions, Harry Taussig
April 7 - Brickbat Books, Philadelphia PA w/ Chris Forsyth
April 8 - Red Onion Records & Books, Washington DC w/ Bob Brown
April 9 - Atomic Books, Baltimore MD w/ Max Ochs
April 10 - Steady Sounds, Richmond VA w/ Diane Cluck, Mark Fosson
April 12 - Flyleaf Books, Chapel Hill NC w/ Steven Weiss (UNC)
April 13 - Horizon Records, Greenville SC w/ Wes Tirey
April 14 - Downtown Books, Asheville NC w/ Wes Tirey
April 15 - A Cappella Books, Atlanta GA w/ Tyler Higgins
April 16 - Grimey's, Nashville TN - Record Store Day DJ set & signing
April 17 - Carmichael's Bookstore, Louisville KY w/ Nathan Salsburg
April 18 - Boxcar Books, Bloomington IN - A Bill Wilson tribute
April 20 - CityLit Books, Chicago IL w/ Mike Vallera

'The Record Store of the Mind' by Josh Rosenthal
Praised by The Believer, Oxford American, Boing Boing, Record Collector (5/5)......
ISBN : 9781625179135
Retailers : Available via Ingram, Baker & Taylor, Think Indie, Revolver

'THE RECORD STORE OF THE MIND' SPOTIFY PLAYLIST
https://player.spotify.com/user/tompkinssquare/playlist/6MNJ5c9qZb0ScEOcsQtXA5

"Josh Rosenthal is a record man's record man. He is also a musician's record man. He is in the line of Samuel Charters and Harry Smith. In this age where we have access to everything and know the value of nothing, musicians need people like Josh to hear them when no one else can."
- T Bone Burnett

Grammy-nominated producer and Tompkins Square label founder Josh Rosenthal presents his first book, The Record Store of the Mind. Part memoir, part "music criticism," the author ruminates over unsung musical heroes, reflects on thirty years of toil and fandom in the music business, and shamelessly lists some of the LPs in his record collection. Crackling with insightful untold stories, The Record Store of the Mind will surely delight and inspire passionate music lovers ... especially those who have spent way too many hours in record stores.

Celebrating ten years in 2015, Rosenthal's San Francisco-based independent record label Tompkins Square has received seven Grammy nominations and wide acclaim for its diverse catalog of new and archival recordings.

ALSO :

> Check out the new Tompkins Square model guitar, built by Trevor Healy ! Video (linked in article) features William Tyler, Ryler Walker, Chris Forsyth and more.https://www.fretboardjournal.com/video/tompkins-squares-10th-anniversary-guitar"> https://www.fretboardjournal.com/video/tompkins-squares-10th-anniversary-guitar

> Roscoe Holcomb 'Live at San Diego State Folk Festival 1972' recently
featured in The New Yorker http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-discovery-of-roscoe-holcomb-and-the-high-lonesome-sound?intcid=mod-latest

― dow, Thursday, March 3, 2016 12:07 PM (That there Roscoe is thuh bomb; I posted description on his own thread)

Yes! Definitely gonna buy this, but the Glenn Jones preview stream is up on NPR with a write-up by Marc Masters. Sweet!

http://www.npr.org/2016/03/10/469786081/first-listen-glenn-jones-fleeting?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nprmusic&utm_term=music&utm_content=20160310

still standing by my original assessment of the new Jones -- best solo guitar record (w/ some banjo) of 2016. prove me wrong, fingerpickers!!

coupla new relevant things i've heard -- marisa anderson's Into The Light (a bit more fleshed out/atmospheric sound for her, with pedal steel, keyboards etc) and a new Danny Paul Grody cassette that sounded awesome, some very Popol Vuh-y moments.

Oooh, nice. Psyched for both of those. Pretty sure Glenn will rule 2016 for me though. Think there is a new Nathan Bowles rolling down the pike at some point too (new songs have ruled, should be a winner).

I like Glenn's stuff and, like many here, I loved My Garden State, but this

Jones and Baird made no attempt to soundproof the recording environment, happy to let sounds filtering in from the outdoors to become part of the listening experience

is a pet peeve (admittedly a nit-picky one). I can almost hear so-called purists nodding their heads in agreement with this statement in the bio, taking for granted that this is the only way to "really record a guitar, man" without considering the alternative (see also: analog vs digital wars). The 'mic the room' cult has grown larger over time, perhaps thanks to negative Windham Hill (also possibly Ani DiFranco) 'direct into the board' connotations, perhaps due to the success of people like Lanois and T-Bone. Again, I realize this is the very essence of a first world problem but, you know, not everything has to be audio vérité. Sometimes I just want to hear the instrument and not the instrument in the room, if that makes any sense. Would be curious to hear the opinions of folks here who are recording themselves (or other acoustic players).

happy to let sounds filtering in from the outdoors to become part of the listening experience

heh it's a little precious

i record in my basement letting "sounds from the outdoors become part of the listening experience" for me would be airplane noise, bass from passing cards, and my neighbord goddamn dogs

Sometimes I just want to hear the instrument and not the instrument in the room, if that makes any sense.

i personally put up some acoustic baffles to absorb noise and record pretty "dry" with the intent of adding reverb later with plugins or whatever if i want it....i think recording "roomy" works great...if you have a good sounding room in the first place, it all depends

also there's times when i feel like old shit i recorded on my last cell phone is cooler than shit i've done with all this equipment i wasted money on

I have no real stake in either approach. Basically if it works it works, take it on a record by record basis. I don't give much truck to the audio verité angle other than I get why folks have an affinity for it, but really any and all methods are cool if the results bear fruit. I definitely hear you on the "real guitar record" kind of mentality, which is just not my thing at all. I love hearing just the instrument with no distractions/bleeding/incidental shit. Just as magical when done well, and sometimes making for a deeper listening experience due to the directness of it.

guitars sound beautiful situated amongst other sounds cf. a raga called pat & everything like it. what a terrible tragedy it would have been if there had been no dog to bark on poor boy on transfiguration

i think the only time this has really distracted or bothered me was on the last mississippi john hurt recordings when you can hear him wheezing as he plays

I mean, the solo guitar recording/track can sometimes use a counterpoint for sure, i.e. benefit from the ambient/incidental sounds. I just don't elevate this approach over all others. It is just one option, which can be wonderful or unnecessary, just depends.

i think the only time this has really distracted or bothered me was on the last mississippi john hurt recordings when you can hear him wheezing as he plays

― ogmor, Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:35 AM (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i can't listen to keith jarret at all because of all his weird noises

ha, is there a post-fahey equivalent to #jarrettgrunts?
i don't get all a-titter when i read that there are cicadas in the mix, but when it works, it works -- actually the Glenn Jones "nature sounds" on his latest and My Garden State are probably the best recent examples I can think of.

i guess orcutt hums along a lot of the time

The Orcutt hums bothered me when I saw him live, as it seemed like a forced gimmick to further validate him as an interesting weirdo artist. I know that's cynical, but I would revaluate and say that things like that can be good for creating atmosphere around an approach.

I like Glenn's stuff and, like many here, I loved My Garden State, but this

Jones and Baird made no attempt to soundproof the recording environment, happy to let sounds filtering in from the outdoors to become part of the listening experience

is a pet peeve (admittedly a nit-picky one). I can almost hear so-called purists nodding their heads in agreement with this statement in the bio, taking for granted that this is the only way to "really record a guitar, man" without considering the alternative (see also: analog vs digital wars). The 'mic the room' cult has grown larger over time, perhaps thanks to negative Windham Hill (also possibly Ani DiFranco) 'direct into the board' connotations, perhaps due to the success of people like Lanois and T-Bone. Again, I realize this is the very essence of a first world problem but, you know, not everything has to be audio vérité. Sometimes I just want to hear the instrument and not the instrument in the room, if that makes any sense. Would be curious to hear the opinions of folks here who are recording themselves (or other acoustic players).

― Jimmywine Dyspeptic, Thursday, March 10, 2016 11:18 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Similarly, I don't think this is a purists thing, but really just a way to create atmosphere as well in a subtle way. Solo instrumentals can more easily achieve atmosphere this way, as there otherwise isn't very many ingredients to work with.

i guess the ultimate answer is the same for any recording techique/approach to production:

it depends

i'll admit to being a sucker for rain sounds on records ... like this michael rother track:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om1j-k0HDLE
or like all of Mickey Newbury's Looks Like Rain ...

and oh hey, you can check out a new marisa anderson track now: http://marisaanderson.bandcamp.com/album/into-the-light

glenn jones sounding like a 'classic' glenn jones bit, no big twists but always good to get some more from him! also i generally find it hard to wrap my head around a stream/'first listen' (esp when there's no track list so this opinion may change)

i agree that the 'audio verite' thing gets a little cute. there's something to be said for the atmosphere it can add and how it adds an additional sonic palette to work with but i wonder if it's getting somewhat cliche in this genre (see also: obligatory 'droney'/collage-style track stuck in the middle of tracklisti to illustrate one's stylistic breadth). can't think of too many examples of the latter atm (and maybe pointing the finger at myself) but i feel like it's also a trope of the genre

I find it incredible that anyone could keep blissfully hoovering up the soundalike dreck offered by the various clueless biters esteemed in this thread only to be finally dumped out of their reverie by the hackneyed creak of a chair or some distant birdsong

it's pretty incredible, you're right

haha! ogmor can always be counted on to bring the pain...

i just feel like we're talking about this topic to have something to talk about, not because anyone has majorly strong opinions. or at least i thought so