Best Villain in "The Maltese Falcon"

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xp Much of the suspense comes from the question of how much of a crook Spade will turn out to be. That ambiguity gets tidied up in the movie ("Don't be too sure I'm as crooked as I'm supposed to be"). At the end of the novel, Effie's reaction shows that he's not a good guy pretending to be bad, but a bad guy cautious and calculating enough to stay within the law.

Brad C., Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:52 (eight years ago) link

and Huston builds suspense by fooling the audience into thinking Spade will keep the money Gutman gave him.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 25 February 2016 19:53 (eight years ago) link

I love it when Kaspar decides to sell out Wilmer down the river and gives him that callous line about how although he is like a son to him, you can always get another son.

calzino, Thursday, 25 February 2016 20:45 (eight years ago) link

Yeah that's the coldest,much more illustrative, believable and affecting that bogeys big heart wrench act at the end for me

Soon all logins will look like this (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:33 (eight years ago) link

i just assumed that the sex w/ Brigid was really great

we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 25 February 2016 22:34 (eight years ago) link

there's a good story in the new VF about all the various claims on the "original" Falcon statuette/s

Flamenco Drop (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 27 February 2016 06:10 (eight years ago) link

three years pass...

“You're not going to go around poking at the fire and straightening up the room again, are you?”

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 August 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link

You posted the exact same quote upthread nine years ago.

Another Fule Clickin’ In Your POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 August 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

Not that I can throw stones at glass keys.

Another Fule Clickin’ In Your POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 August 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

You will take, say, one hundred dollars?

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 August 2019 01:33 (four years ago) link

I won’t play the sap for you.

Another Fule Clickin’ In Your POLL (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 12 August 2019 01:35 (four years ago) link

Ages ago, when I was new to teaching, another teacher and I would send this one kid in grade 3, Andrel Wisdom, back and forth between our two classrooms to recite movie lines we liked. One of them was "I'm a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk." There'd be a knock on my door, Andrel would come in and announce "I'm a man who likes talking to a man who likes to talk." We were probably being a little irresponsible, but Andrel seemed to enjoy it as much as we did.

clemenza, Monday, 12 August 2019 02:18 (four years ago) link

Mary Astor is pretty great in most roles with any juice to 'em

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 12 August 2019 02:31 (four years ago) link

I haven't lived a good life. I've been bad, worse than you could know.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 August 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link

The problem here is that her too-perfectly upper class role playing makes her a bad adventuress, because she is too self-contained and a bit of a cold fish, whereas an adventuress needs to attract and hold her male targets and the bait for that is sexuality, not propriety.

See Bebe Daniels in the 1931 The Maltese Falcon (and for good measure, Bette Davis in 1936's Satan Met a Lady). I've seen Mary Astor bring the heat on other occasions, but as Brigid she seems a little too much like a schoolmarm trying to play a bad girl, rather than the other way around.

Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Monday, 12 August 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link

The problem here is that her too-perfectly upper class role playing makes her a bad adventuress, because she is too self-contained and a bit of a cold fish, whereas an adventuress needs to attract and hold her male targets and the bait for that is sexuality, not propriety.

this is a weird take because Astor and Huston emphasize her piss-elegance: the corsage, the stoles, etc. And the point is that Spade falls for neither her sexuality nor her propriety; he isn't fooled for an instant, unlike, say, poor dead Miles.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 12 August 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

four years pass...

My students disliked it, I think.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:01 (one month ago) link

That's on them

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:15 (one month ago) link

Did you tell them what gunsel means?

shave and a haircut, two brits (Matt #2), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:21 (one month ago) link

Explaining who was gay and why genuinely surprised them.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:22 (one month ago) link

Oh bless

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:32 (one month ago) link

Just tell them they'll take it and like it

Morris O’Shea Salazar (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 March 2024 14:33 (one month ago) link

Timely revival; the "When you're slapped, you'll take it and like it" line was in my head earlier this a.m.

Hongro Hongro Hippies (Myonga Vön Bontee), Saturday, 16 March 2024 16:05 (one month ago) link


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