Ninth Coint & Plick: The ~60 best games of 2015 according to ILX

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Ah, okay, I think I was interpolating some stuff into your statement, then.

emil.y, Friday, 19 February 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

I did it like this:
1. Compared the ballots; anything where there was a similar game, I added both scores (so if you gave a game 30 and I gave it 5, total 35, for every game we share)
2. Found the best match for each ballot (in the event of a tie, I looked to see which person gave a higher score to your number one)
3. Put them in an order that I'm too tired to explain but you'll understand in a second maybe idk

111 - Karl Malone - orifex
111 - orifex - Karl Malone
70 - JimD - orifex
60 - s.clover - orifex
50 - Mordy - JimD

100 - Adam Bruneau - polyphonic
100 - polyphonic - Adam Bruneau
50 - abcfsk - Adam Bruneau

99 - Forks - gukbe
99 - gukbe - Forks
50 - Jordan - Forks

85 - Will M. - reddening
85 - reddening - Will M.
79 - billstevejim - Will M.
73 - methanietanner - reddening
35 - Old Lunch - Will M.
64 - emil.y - methanietanner
47 - one way street - emil.y

73 - Euler - abanana
73 - abanana - Euler

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

name of left is you. name on right is your closest neighbour. number is combined mutual scores on ballots

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2016 21:35 (eight years ago) link

Order seems straightforward enough - strongest matches first, grouped into people who matched w/ each other, right?

emil.y, Friday, 19 February 2016 21:38 (eight years ago) link

yeah basically i took all of the mutual ones, made them "parents" of each chunk and put all of the one-way neighbours underneath and ordered it by strength of closeness

100% mutual ballots would give a total of 200 points, which means orifex and karl malone are like over 50% the same person, you guys should hang out

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2016 21:41 (eight years ago) link

Anyway who cares. Here's my ballot (this may be the first C+P I've ever given a game 30 points!):

30 - Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain
20 - Life is Strange
10 - The Jackbox Party Pack 2
10 - Her Story
5 - Rocket League
5 - Undertale
5 - OlliOlli 2: Welcome to Olliwood
5 - Cibele
5 - Massive Chalice
5 - Super Mega Baseball

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2016 21:43 (eight years ago) link

as much fun as it is running this i kinda miss the not-knowing, you know? i'm currently reading C+P 2014 and 2013 to get my surprise fix, haha

Worth Taking from Little Kid (Will M.), Friday, 19 February 2016 22:03 (eight years ago) link

KM + ME = <3. Phantom Pain didn't make my list because I just started playing it, but it's crazy good so far (surely the most mind-blowing *tutorial* of any game?) Witcher was my goty by a fair margin. Loved playing an actual character with an actual personality (albeit pretty one-note), loved how almost every quest had at least some little quirk or twist or shady character to keep it interesting, loved getting hammered and dressing up as a pretty lady and drunk-dialing some sorceresses through a magic portal, didn't love the mullets, didn't love that I got the worst possible ending but I cried about that over on the Witcher thread.

orifex, Friday, 19 February 2016 22:15 (eight years ago) link

Also I played the Dr. Lang game last night because of this thread and it was great, thank you internet.

orifex, Friday, 19 February 2016 22:17 (eight years ago) link

thanks for doing this! i'll try to post comments on some of my other top picks later -- looks like i was with the hivemind in the mobile space, basically.

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Friday, 19 February 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link

Thanks Will! This was great. Wasted a lot of time this past month trying to catch up.

Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Saturday, 20 February 2016 00:32 (eight years ago) link

Yes, thanks, Will! I was not super active in this thread, but I appreciate the work you put into it and the poll, which should be a great resource if I ever find the means to play more of these games.

(My ballot, incidentally, was:

30 /// undertale
30 /// we know the devil
10 /// sunless sea
10 /// minkomora
10 /// neko atsume
10 /// lost constellation

Non-2015 GOTY: the longest journey
Disappointment: tale of tales having to quit game design (http://tale-of-tales.com/2015/))

one way street, Saturday, 20 February 2016 03:19 (eight years ago) link

111 - Karl Malone - orifex
111 - orifex - Karl Malone

high five!

20 Rocket League
15 Witcher 3
11 Agar.io
10 Beginner's Guide
10 Fallout 4
6 Cities: Skylines
6 Alto's Adventure
6 darkest dungeon
6 Neko Atsume
5 Star Wars Battlefront
5 pillars of eternity

i fully expect that if i would have played MGS5 it would be near the top, but i just haven't had a chance to try it yet (i just bought my PS4 in November or so)

Battlefront deserved to make the top 60, at least. yes, nearly all the modes are boring and the combat is thin and the controls aren't the best. but Walker Assault mode is an absolute gem - it's some of the very most fun you can have in the metaverse. i don't know if renting games is still a thing, but if so, i highly recommend renting Battlefront and binging on Walker Assault for a week to the point of nearly losing your job. at that point you'll finally be sick of the game and there'll be just enough time to calm your boss down

Karl Malone, Saturday, 20 February 2016 04:13 (eight years ago) link

also my Darkest Dungeon vote is for the early release version of the game on steam. i haven't played the finished game that just came out.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 20 February 2016 04:14 (eight years ago) link

also did any of you try Cities: Skylines? i mean this was basically the SimCity a lot of people have been waiting for since SimCity2000. it wasn't perfect but it moved the goalposts enough (god what a terrible phrase, sorry) that you can imagine another team perfecting it soon.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 20 February 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link

touchdown

Karl Malone, Saturday, 20 February 2016 04:17 (eight years ago) link

yes - it just missed my ballot. i liked it a lot, though the game itself is pretty shallow and i exhausted most of the stuff to do in ~5 hours. the modding community is supposedly v good + add a bunch of replayability but i haven't explored it. one thing it was missing for me was a longer arc of unlocking things / accomplishing achievements / etc. very early on you pretty much unlock everything you need and then every few population markers you unlock a new iconic building or whatever to place. or at least that was my experience. like u said i think it's a great foundation. have u tried the dlc that just came out? the snow one?

Mordy, Saturday, 20 February 2016 04:21 (eight years ago) link

see, i think the lack of a conventional sense of progression was part of why i liked it. all the important bits are unlocked early on, and once it becomes clear that the goal won't be to reach population X by time Z, it frees you up to just focus on the city itself, like the reward is in the fun of pretending to be really into city planning for an afternoon, just testing out different ways to connect districts and constructing ridiculous overpass systems. it's kind of a throwback to the basic sense of curiosity you'd get playing simcity in the windows 3.1 days. the old simcity had goals and progression and scenarios and all that, but i think the reason it became a megahit was because it let you briefly have sense of being a fake city planner, like it let you bring spreadsheets and charts and graphs and models to life for a little bit, and it did it such an intuitive way that it seemed like an obvious subject for a game, but i don't really think it was. anyway it's hard to explain for some reason, but cities: skylines kind of brings me back to that old SimCity feeling, only with all the modern conveniences and visual updates that come from the 20-ish years of gamemaking in the interim.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 20 February 2016 04:51 (eight years ago) link

i only played like 3 eligible games (tho this morning gf and i finally played keep talking and nobody explodes -- rly fun and sui generis but wears off quickly i think, probably renewable through introducing people to it) but this thread made me wish i'd voted anyway; sorry will! and gr8 job.

so i've talked a bit about Life is Strange already, but something i haven't mentioned is how great it is to see a game with a strong focus on female friendships/relationships: not only chloe and max, but max and kate, chloe and rachel amber, chloe and her mom, etc. even victoria, the main female antagonist, can be interacted with in a thoughtful way, although since it's a choice game you can also take it full-tilt into bitchiness if you want. i also really appreciate that DONTNOD didn't reject the idea that chloe/max could turn romantic (and that even from the start, you could direct max to be like "uhhhhhhhhhhhh no" to warren).

― the jackal-snouted problem man (reddening), Friday, February 19, 2016 11:21 AM (12 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

lol in e1 i was as vengeful as possible to victoria, "hold that pose!" was sweeeeeeet. lil butterfly's like this will have consequences! i'm like shut up mom. anyway otm.

i'd almost bought sunless sea a while back but there are so many permadeath semiroguelikes these days i got choice paralysis and didn't (tho i have played the orig binding of isaac) -- mordy itt has made it my takeaway from this, gonna get it soon.

my steam hours hit three digits for fallout 4 :/ but i don't think i came close to the end of the main quest. i kind of squeezed the map dry tho, otherwise. at the time it seemed obviously better than f3 but rly i'd have to replay it; both games are kind of curiously ephemeral. for me really enjoying f4 required disobeying it more often than not, but people have said that about bethesda games forever.

will play witcher 3 someday but uh i just got witcher 1 working w the steam controller (surprisingly fluid) and i have witcher 2 unplayed in my library from like five years ago.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 20 February 2016 07:45 (eight years ago) link

i liked pillars of eternity enough to buy a season pass, which fallout 4 never chiseled out of me. just installed white march 2 the other day. of course i never played white march 1 and soon it'll be awkward to go back to the game as i've already forgotten most of the nine million words i've put in so far.

denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 20 February 2016 07:54 (eight years ago) link

for ppl curious about cities skylines it is free this weekend on steam. it's kinda a perfect game for only one weekend of play so i highly recommend checking it out. and if you're ready to mod it look for all the soviet era architecture (esp the tenements).

Mordy, Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:04 (eight years ago) link

my ballot

25 /// The Executive
20 /// Downwell
20 /// Tales From The Borderlands
20 /// You Must Build A Boat
5 /// Landsliders
5 /// Pocket Mine 2
5 /// Blades of Brim

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:15 (eight years ago) link

i couldn't vote for it in good conscience but i played a lot of pocket mine 2 last year

Mordy, Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:31 (eight years ago) link

I honestly don't remember my ballot as I used the online form. I gave the most points to Jackbox Party Pack 2, Goat Simulator, and Q.U.B.E., and all of the ones with < 5 points are mine. Also htoL#NiQ and Heroes of Loot.

maybe my clam is just more toxic (Old Lunch), Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

s.clover, a werewolf high-five to you for voting The Executive, that was definitely in my top 3 for the year

Nhex, Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:34 (eight years ago) link

The Executive: a good game made great thanks to off-kilter artwork and story, and a difficulty curve that's just right for a long time until the upgrades peak out and you have to just have much better reflexes than I happen to.

Downwell: One of the nice things about mobile is the opportunity to revisit old genres and see what would happen if you mixed their sensibility with certain more modern notions of gameplay. Downwell is effectively a game that its shocking was never invented for the C64, but, which if it had been, would have been one of the great games of all time. Twitchy, with lots of subtle interaction complexities built on a fairly minimal set of objects and enemies, and an actual sense of progression and a go, albeit one that seems daunting to actually reach. And for all the tightened gameplay, an upgrade progression that only works per game and still makes sense.

YMBAB: Almost all other combat match-3 is effectively strategic, or at least provides lengthy move-counters. Here, every second lost matters as the screen ticks forward, whether you swipe or not. So gameplay moves from being primarily about the "best" thing than about doing something, anything, as quickly as possible, and occasionally looking for the match you actually need. There are a few other great mechanics here as well (but they're also effectively held-over from the prior game) -- in particular, picking the number of quests and tying them to variables in the difficulty level means that you get more interesting shake-ups in gameplay (with the modifiers _really_ changing the careful balance of the game) and also the ability to dial back "just a bit" when things seem impossible, to unlock one or two more upgrades, and then make a run at them again.

Landsliders: I voted crossy road as the 2014 game because it took me a year to realize just how influential its "actually free to play but pay to spin for characters" model would be, and landsliders, by a studio founded by people who had first been at crossy road's, is the best of this sort in this year. Novel gameplay interaction, huge variety in levels and potential challenges, the openness to play in a variety of styles, either racing to the top or trying for every last collectible, or just trying to unlock one or another particular cache for the hell of it.

Pocket Mine 2: A lottery ticket in a box with monetization on top. I probably played this more than anything else in the first chunk of the year, before I ran out of most of the not-impossibly-grindy-to-unlock content. The big thing you unlock as you go along is the ability to get longer games with more blocks destroyed before your pick breaks, feeding the "next time i can do a bit better" sensation. Eventually this backfires and games just feel they go on too long, and that's the end of that.

Blades of Brim: Another mobile grinder, this one probably played more than anything else in the second chunk of the year. By the Subway Surfers developers (SS by the way still being one of the games I see most played by other people on my daily commute) it takes 3d-lane-change-endless-runners about as far forward as i've seen -- from 3 lanes to a fairly arbitrary number, from a few levels (SS was one of the first to really open up the vertical space) to again lots and lots. And the combat mechanic -- not too challenging, but enough to transform swipe reflexes. You can't approach enemies directly without rolling, or but you can approach from the side. And then when you get a chain of flying ones and end up hopping between them slashing as you go! I think the devs are as confused as to why it didn't catch on as the next SS as I am, so they've rebalanced and changed core gameplay a number of times now. Hearts used to regenerate -- now they stay gone. Used to have three simultaneous quests -- now just one. I don't know if this is really that much better than other endless games. I know I get less bored of it, and that I bothered to get my skills up to a level where occasionally I pull off something just feels really fluid and nice, and technically well-executed, and where I had to think at least a few moves ahead to get there, and that that freedom compares positively to something like temple run where its much more "read the terrain, do the one possible correct thing." But I don't know if that's what too many other people want from and endless runner.

Option ARMs and de Man (s.clover), Saturday, 20 February 2016 16:46 (eight years ago) link

to the detriment of my mental health i'll probably give all those a try at some point

Nhex, Saturday, 20 February 2016 17:26 (eight years ago) link

19 /// Ori and the Blind Forest
My computer exploded around 3/4ths into this but it was still amazing. This was a year where everyone made a Metroidvania, and this was by far the best.

13 /// Undertale
Possibly overrated at this point, but I still got a lot of enjoyment from it.

12 /// The Room 3
Great puzzles. Shame about the attempt at a story.

11 /// Grow Home
Great idea let down a bit by some fiddly controls.

10 /// Crank
An entertaining and short idler.

9 /// Dropsy
I need to finish this. First two hours were great.

8 /// Agar.io
Simplest waste of time of the year. Downside: memes, trolling encouraged.

7 /// Broken Age
Also my disappointment of the year. An acceptable adventure that seems stuck in the past.

6 /// Her Story
Hypertext fiction lives on, I guess? Probably the best of this limited type of storytelling.

5 /// Trimps
Avoid this game. But I got suckered into it, so it gets the minimum points.

remove butt (abanana), Monday, 22 February 2016 05:30 (eight years ago) link

Had a blast playing some Rocket League last night. There is a new free mode called Rocket Lab out now (which replaced the hockey-like Snow Day) and it is a couple of Tron-inspired tracks that are a whole ton of fun! One of them is designed like a horseshoe, with the whole field looping in on itself, so you can fly through your goal and end up coming out through the other side's. Total game-changer.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 February 2016 16:44 (eight years ago) link

whoa, that's awesome! i didn't like Snow Day at all, but that sounds much more fun.

after playing exclusively 3v3 since i got it, i recently switched over to 2v2 and it's like a brand new game.

Karl Malone, Monday, 22 February 2016 16:48 (eight years ago) link

yeah Snow Day was a kind of a pain to get used to. this has the same physics but a totally new playing field.

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3LS-8925xs

AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Monday, 22 February 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link

!! those maps look awesome

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 22 February 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link

'that map' i mean, lol

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Monday, 22 February 2016 17:56 (eight years ago) link

PSN sale this week has Life is Strange complete for $10, will probably grab it.

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 17:59 (eight years ago) link

oh hey that's a good price.

Super Mega Baseball and Towerfall are both listed as Free now. Not even discounted to free. Not sure if they implemented some sort of freemium model or not but those games are both so good.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:45 (eight years ago) link

they're not, it just shows up that way on the store when you already own a game on your account

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:49 (eight years ago) link

oh. shouldn't it say Purchased?

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link

they need to fix that, v confusing

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:52 (eight years ago) link

yeah, it's ballsed

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

Their whole online presence is a disaster on a number of levels.

maybe my clam is just more toxic (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:55 (eight years ago) link

the psn store is so weird. some days it seems integrated into the ps4 os, and then other days it seems like it's like html or something

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:56 (eight years ago) link

For instance, here's a helpful hint: game sales sometimes last longer than a week but they often disappear from the sale page after the first week. Why? Anybody's guess. You just have to trawl through all of their game listings to see hidden stuff that's discounted.

maybe my clam is just more toxic (Old Lunch), Tuesday, 23 February 2016 18:57 (eight years ago) link

Sunless Sea part of a Humble Bundle at the moment: https://www.humblebundle.com/humble-indie-bundle-16

emil.y, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:14 (eight years ago) link

sold.

Nhex, Tuesday, 23 February 2016 19:24 (eight years ago) link

nine months pass...

CPX - TENTH ANNUAL COINT & PLICK 2016 nomination thread

mint challop (Will M.), Tuesday, 6 December 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link


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