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it's a complete one-off and not so much metal but the title track of 'discontinuities' is a microtonal guitar instrumental and you might enjoy it

odysseus (imago), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link

Not to my knowledge, sorry. imo Ship of Theseus is musically a bit more engaging (more RIFFS) so it might detract from the vocals a bit more. fwiw I'm not the hugest fan of his voice either but I'm not picky when it comes to screams/growls etc

space prophet wogan (ultros ultros-ghali), Thursday, 18 February 2016 21:34 (eight years ago) link

I listened to "Discontinuities" a minute ago but it didn't do much for me. it just sounds like he left the tape recorder running as he messed around with microtones as an exercise — it's kind of anonymous and there just isn't anything interesting going on compositionally or stylistically compared to (what little I've heard of) his metal stuff. but maybe I'd change my mind if I heard it within the context of the album. I'll give Ship of Theseus a try, but I have almost no patience for metal growling unless it's buried very deep in the mix.

small doug yule carnival club (unregistered), Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:24 (eight years ago) link

There are longer stretches without vocals on Ship of Theseus iirc, and I think his composition did grow more sophisticated (to the point where I don't need the vocals much of the time), but, yeah, extreme metal vocals are part of the package, generally.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Thursday, 18 February 2016 22:27 (eight years ago) link

Listening to Vast Chains now and wondering why I was ever down on it

space prophet wogan (ultros ultros-ghali), Wednesday, 2 March 2016 19:42 (eight years ago) link

two months pass...

new album Perdurance out on the 6th of June, which is almost Satan Day 6/6/16

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Wednesday, 25 May 2016 11:35 (seven years ago) link

idk if can be bothered to listen to the four tracks of this that will be added to my EOY votes before elseq1-5 assuming GFOTY doesn't release anything this year

nakhchivan, Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:12 (seven years ago) link

based on the first 3 minutes i think you'd like this more than prev works but much obliged as ever

i need to sleep soon but god here we are again

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:15 (seven years ago) link

i mean...damn

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 01:19 (seven years ago) link

i was all set to snark, but this is great. big leap upward from the "reflective paintings" series in terms of listenability & sonic variety. while still sounding microtonally diseased & horrid, of course.

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 03:29 (seven years ago) link

Haha "At the Limit of Fertile Land" is phenomenal!

the mood and the melanies (Drugs A. Money), Saturday, 4 June 2016 04:18 (seven years ago) link

Laughter is fitting. This is mad...

His best work yet? Has the most 'groove' of any Jute Gyte album.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Saturday, 4 June 2016 15:32 (seven years ago) link

I'll wait until I order it

Cosmic Slop, Saturday, 4 June 2016 19:39 (seven years ago) link

I'll order it, but first I'll listen to it.

It's obviously amazing and I haven't come close to getting my head around it yet. The opening track alone is a monster of a whole new order. Nobody comes close to this guy at the moment.

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:13 (seven years ago) link

ok this is another level up then

And the cry rang out all o'er the town / Good Heavens! Tay is down (imago), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:54 (seven years ago) link

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link

just listened again. "i am in athens and pericles is young" is a hell of a closer.

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:09 (seven years ago) link

opener is incredible

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:19 (seven years ago) link

that too

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Saturday, 4 June 2016 22:59 (seven years ago) link

im going to listen to this once the weather gets shite again

― Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Saturday, 4 June 2016 21:57 (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Not really in the mood for this anyway, confirmed by listening to about a minute of the opener. Apart from anything else the sound quality was crap so I'll wait for it to materialize on bandcamp or whatever.

ultros ultros-ghali, Sunday, 5 June 2016 12:47 (seven years ago) link

you have 1 day to wait

can't even get past the first song because i keep relistening to it

bitcoin bajas (diamonddave85), Sunday, 5 June 2016 17:35 (seven years ago) link

towards the end of 'consciousness is nature's nightmare' it sounds like he shrieks 'let's facetime'

It really does. I like the Sound of Music one best at the moment.

It's on Spotify now. First listen in full with headphones and better sound quality... I can't even begin to unpack this. There are moments when it feels like the sound is being psychically implied or beamed in from afar.

Listening again.

I love that he releases these things in the summer. I really think that he intends for them to be summer albums.

well, yes. they are, really. the heat-madness coming off the swamp...

Listening to this in higher quality and questioning whether other music really matters right now

Will Julio like it though?

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:01 (seven years ago) link

of course, but he won't admit it

You say potato, he say po-tah-to.

Larry 'Leg' Smith (Tom D.), Monday, 6 June 2016 11:04 (seven years ago) link

ha trap beats morphing into insane death metal multi-limbed drum freakery on "at the limit of fertile land". tremendous stuff.

Neptune Bingo (Michael B), Monday, 6 June 2016 13:18 (seven years ago) link

it's up on bandcamp now. the writeup alone is incredible. read it and blush, xyzzzz

pretty interesting stuff - these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

sort of - he used to be much more BM but the rules have shifted

still, there's a big shout-out to Inquisition in the write-up, for what that's worth

at the risk of sounding terribly pretentious, i consider it neoclassical maximalism in the metal song form above all

The title “Consciousness Is Nature's Nightmare” is from Cioran's Tears and Saints by way of D.F. Wallace's late masterpiece “The Suffering Channel”

Knew I recognised this! This is however, the only sentence I can even approach understanding from the liner notes. I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

these riffs are pretty heavily death metal though? does this really read as mainly black metal to yall?

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, June 6, 2016 6:49 PM (Yesterday)

the vocals are the clearest point of connection. but i've never thought of jute gyte as wholly belonging to any metal subgenre. it's progressive artmusic with a debt to black metal.

the world over the crotch. (contenderizer), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:01 (seven years ago) link

the term "neoclassical" with reference to metal is something I'll probably never be on board with unless we're talking about power metal in which case ok

― The bald Phil Collins impersonator cash grab (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:38 (34 minutes ago)

afaik lj is using neoclassical in a sense other than that conventionally employed within the field of music

nakhchivan, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:15 (seven years ago) link

Always appreciated this dude but I actually bought the CD this time

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 14:43 (seven years ago) link

this sounds quite fun

donning his most gytian display name

this and the shxchhchssh album a fine accompanient to the sturm und drang rumbling away in the background

yeah i was just listening to this while walking through a pimlico thunderstorm in a yellow shirt with swallow print, check shorts and sandals, p much optimal

maybe mustard rather than yellow

I do not know what a 4:5:6:7 ratio is, nor what a consistent 33-beat hypermeter could be, but I will trust that he knows what he's talking about.

In this case, I think that a 4:5:6:7 ratio means that he has four parts moving at four different tempi, which are in this ratio to each other, such that 4 beats of #1 takes as long as 5 beats of #2, which takes as long as 6 beats of #3 etc. So, for example, if you have a string quartet where Violin 1 is playing a line at 96 bpm, Violin 2 is playing at 120 bpm, Viola is playing at 144 bpm, and Cello is playing at 168 bpm, Vln 1 would play 4 beats in the same time that Vln 2 would play 5 beats, which would also be the same time that Vla would play 6 beats and Cello would play 7 beats. I haven't actually counted the parts in "Athens" but I think Kalmbach is saying that this is what is happening in the polymetric passages.

I have honesty never felt like I really needed to use the concept of hypermetre in my life (except when reading someone who does) but the Wikipedia summary is decent. I prefer to just think in terms of bars, phrases, sections, etc., honestly. I think that all that Kalmbach is saying is that he has organized "Palimpsest" into phrases or sections that are all multiples of 33 beats long.

Hi! I'm twice-coloured! (Sund4r), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 20:58 (seven years ago) link

write me when he does a piece with a ratio of one over the cube root of pi to the cube root of 13/16

hypnic jerk (rushomancy), Tuesday, 7 June 2016 21:54 (seven years ago) link

nerdiest post ever on ilm

Cosmic Slop, Tuesday, 7 June 2016 22:14 (seven years ago) link

it's interesting that i started the thread on this artist because i absolutely and fundamentally do not understand their music

treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:45 (three years ago) link

this is more an observation about myself than jute gyte. i wish i understood some music theory.

treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:50 (three years ago) link

I sort of don't fully understand either, but it is awfully pretty

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:51 (three years ago) link

yeah, i mean sometimes i like to listen to really evil sounding black metal while thumbing through my copy of dante's inferno. jute gyte has hit this spot before -- i remember ressentiment having a really claustrophobic sound i liked. it reminds me of the time nakh corrected me for misusing the term "ressentiment" in conversation.

treeship., Saturday, 20 February 2021 17:55 (three years ago) link

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

The aleatoric and serialist methods he uses I understand both from instinct and from our private communications to be as much a means of generating creativity through restriction and formation of process as they are integral to the desired sound

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:02 (three years ago) link

That said, both the curiosity value they generate and the mathematical pleasures of hearing for instance polytempi sync up and fall apart are not harmful to my enjoyment

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:04 (three years ago) link

Ultimately I do think he just likes writing bangers, at least in his metal guise

imago, Saturday, 20 February 2021 18:05 (three years ago) link

This Friday, March 5, I will donate 100% of sales to GLAD.

If you would like to donate directly to GLAD, click here: www.glad.org

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/

dow, Tuesday, 2 March 2021 19:54 (three years ago) link

two months pass...

His next metal album, which could be out any day now, is going to be his most aggressive yet, which I'm quite excited for.

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/mitrealit-t

imago, Friday, 7 May 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link

The first two tracks are downright catchy in their wonkiness. I feel like I'm eventually going to be a massive fan of this dude when I finally come to appreciate 'metal vocals' more broadly, lol.

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Friday, 7 May 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link

Well yeah, he's always known a tune. Prometheus Ends In Onan follows (to an extent) a familiar Gytean formula but it's a monster, a monster

imago, Friday, 7 May 2021 11:34 (two years ago) link

Prometheus Ends In Onan is currently blowing my mind. I think even non avant-garde/Branca loving metal people could get behind this one. I'm only on track 2 but thats my take so far. Love it.

gman59, Friday, 7 May 2021 20:30 (two years ago) link

two years pass...

https://jutegyte.bandcamp.com/album/unus-mundus-patet

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

imago, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 15:29 (seven months ago) link

opening track really does sound like slowed down/sped up tape

Saxophone Of Futility (Michael B), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 16:37 (seven months ago) link

Not a drill! MAYBE SOUNDS A BIT LIKE ONE

― imago

dugga dugga dugga

jute gyte has had nine releases since the last one i listened to, "bierefrigence"? i can't keep up :(

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:16 (seven months ago) link

Only this one and Mitrealitat are metal of those since Birefringence

This one has some quality stuff, mostly the first three tracks and Killing A Sword

imago, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:46 (seven months ago) link

three months pass...

Is there a primer somewhere on this guys discography? I just used up part of a bandcamp voucher on Birefringence and Young Eagle DLs. Quite random. I already owned Ship.. and Perdurance CDs. I'm in the mood to just get it all.

Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 01:18 (three months ago) link

I mean, I can advise, but even I haven't heard all the purely electronic stuff (much of which is good). Jute Gyte 2024

imago, Monday, 1 January 2024 07:30 (three months ago) link

Thanks. Realistically I'll never find the time to digest all of this. I'll dabble.

Duke, Monday, 1 January 2024 18:49 (three months ago) link


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