you'd think they could like, put it on hold "as it relates to the outcome of a currently pending legal action" or somesuch, and certainly would in another situation. ugh.
― the thirteenth floorior (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:56 (eight years ago) link
definitely. whoever decided to just send the bill is a terrible asshole.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 16:57 (eight years ago) link
Betcha no individual made any decisions about this, and bills like this go out all the time to people beaten up by cops and nobody notices or cares and fuck Cleveland.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:00 (eight years ago) link
^^^
ime most PDs are run like a mafia racket "fuck you, pay me" etc.
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:06 (eight years ago) link
actually, reading the NYT article on it, it wasn't just a matter of sending them the bill, it's a lawsuit. so it wasn't just a matter of a local city worker mindlessly sending out the latest set of overdue ambulance bills, it was something that the city's law director would have to know about. man, fuck cleveland.
― Karl Malone, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:41 (eight years ago) link
This is why I am 100% opposed to anything that results in the payment of this bill
― its subtle brume (DJP), Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
Even that kinda law suit is very often rubber stamp send-it-out-the-door SOP, horribly enough.
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:46 (eight years ago) link
"All part of standard process" in no way makes the situation any less of a white supremacist horror show, it should go without saying...
― Three Word Username, Thursday, 11 February 2016 17:49 (eight years ago) link
Guilty: http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/02/12/nyregion/officer-peter-liang-convicted-in-fatal-shooting-of-akai-gurley-in-brooklyn.html
― Οὖτις, Friday, 12 February 2016 02:34 (eight years ago) link
good
― its subtle brume (DJP), Friday, 12 February 2016 03:35 (eight years ago) link
gross
http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/2-Los-Angeles-officers-charged-with-raping-women-6838702.php
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 18 February 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link
No ILX mentions of Joyce Curnell, the South Carolina woman who died in a jail where she was denied medical care, after being arrested and taken from the hospital, all over some unpaid court fees.
www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636
It appears that poor/no communication between police, hospital workers, jailers & medical staff was partly to blame; however I would feel remiss if I didn't point out the presence of a private medical services contractor in the mix, because we all know what *that* means
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 27 February 2016 13:59 (eight years ago) link
http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636/ not sure why that link didn't take, lemme try one more time for good measure http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20160224/PC16/160229636/
Short version: The state tries to collect the money which it says it is owed by a citizen, but cannot keep from killing her while she is under its roof. No word yet on whether her surviving relatives will be billed for cleaning the deceased's vomit out of the jail cell, or if they're just gonna leave it there
― bernard snowy, Saturday, 27 February 2016 14:05 (eight years ago) link
Remember when Brazil seemed slightly exaggerated?
― somewhere btwn Gabriel Garcia Marquez and early Evel Knievel guy (contenderizer), Saturday, 27 February 2016 17:42 (eight years ago) link
this'll be a fun trial
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 16:58 (eight years ago) link
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-deputies-to-face-charges-over-6862048.php
http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/San-Francisco-deputies-to-face-charges-over-6862048.php― Οὖτις, Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:58 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, March 1, 2016 10:58 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
that is horrible in inhumane and disgusting
that said, i'd watch the movie if walter hill directed it
― wizzz! (amateurist), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 20:08 (eight years ago) link
*and inhumane
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/03/01/they-stood-over-him-and-watched-him-die-outrage-in-alabama-after-white-cop-kills-unarmed-black-man/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_mm-outrage-105pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
I know there's a danger that any further horror draws attention away from more regular abuses, but Jesus Fucking Christ: http://thefreethoughtproject.com/parents-date-night-passed-car-police-showed
"Parents on a Date Were Asleep in Car When Cops Arrived and Killed Them Both"
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 1 March 2016 23:56 (eight years ago) link
JFC
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Tuesday, 1 March 2016 23:58 (eight years ago) link
"obviously they were conscious because somebody felt threatened"
yup sure, that's how evidence works! First a cop says something, then it *must* be true! because after all a cop said it.
― Οὖτις, Wednesday, 2 March 2016 00:02 (eight years ago) link
guilty: https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-trooper-pleads-guilty-shooting-unarmed-black-man-172056556.html
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 March 2016 22:26 (eight years ago) link
Good.
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Tuesday, 15 March 2016 02:02 (eight years ago) link
Anita Alvarez, the prosecutor who helped cover up the video of the murder of Laquan McDonald, might be losing her primary tonight!
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:17 (eight years ago) link
seeing reports that alvarez has conceded
― 1staethyr, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:45 (eight years ago) link
Timothy McGinty, who bungled the Tamir Rice case, is in trouble also, but narrowly leading.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 01:49 (eight years ago) link
on the prosecutor defeats
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adamserwer/paying-the-price#.itqN9Nb2k
― we can be heroes just for about 3.6 seconds (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 18:29 (eight years ago) link
Was so happy to vote against McGinty yesterday.
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Wednesday, 16 March 2016 18:31 (eight years ago) link
Ferguson agrees to the DoJ consent decree: http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/03/15/470598733/ferguson-city-council-accepts-deal-with-justice-department
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 March 2016 21:20 (eight years ago) link
http://gawker.com/black-maryland-cop-killed-by-fellow-officer-who-thought-1765358994
― ive seen enough Good Wife episodes (s.clover), Thursday, 17 March 2016 18:21 (eight years ago) link
life imitates wire
― lettered and hapful (symsymsym), Friday, 18 March 2016 02:43 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/24/nyregion/prosecutor-wont-seek-prison-for-peter-liang-ex-officer-convicted-in-killing.html?_r=0
In a statement, the district attorney, Ken Thompson, said the case was about “justice and not about revenge,” and urged that the former officer, Peter Liang, receive five years of probation, including six months of home confinement, when he is sentenced next month.Mr. Liang, 28, who was convicted of second-degree manslaughter, could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison.“Mr. Liang has no prior criminal history and poses no future threat to public safety,” Mr. Thompson said. “Because his incarceration is not necessary to protect the public, and due to the unique circumstances of this case, a prison sentence is not warranted.”
Mr. Liang, 28, who was convicted of second-degree manslaughter, could be sentenced to up to 15 years in prison.
“Mr. Liang has no prior criminal history and poses no future threat to public safety,” Mr. Thompson said. “Because his incarceration is not necessary to protect the public, and due to the unique circumstances of this case, a prison sentence is not warranted.”
― k3vin k., Thursday, 24 March 2016 03:01 (eight years ago) link
Not sure what to think about that. I'm definitely on the side that he deserved to lose his job and be prosecuted to show that this is not acceptable. If a private citizen did something similar, they would almost certainly do prison time. But the argument is true that now that he is not a police officer, it's unlikely he poses a threat or a likelihood of further incident.
― Nhex, Thursday, 24 March 2016 04:44 (eight years ago) link
i'm not a big jail fan for anyone and would think it is reasonable if he treats others the same way (which i doubt but there is likely no analogous situation) because manslaughter doesn't always need a prison sentence imo. to hear a prosecutor raise the idea that incarceration is meant to protect the public is ummm i don't know...lol? like you don't do that moral calculus when you put a drug offender in jail, you just suddenly have empathy for this guy and his horrible mistake. obviously if a normal person would get like 5 years for something similar, incarceration is not imposed to protect the public in that situation, he'd be getting out pretty soon. it's a punishment.
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:27 (eight years ago) link
but it's messed up & sends a message that this person he killed doesn't matter as much as other innocent people who die, idk
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:32 (eight years ago) link
that's why i don't believe in "justice"!
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, 24 March 2016 10:33 (eight years ago) link
This could go in a bunch of threads, I'm aware.
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/mar/21/death-by-gentrification-the-killing-that-shamed-san-francisco
― Andrew Farrell, Thursday, 24 March 2016 13:53 (eight years ago) link
Very sad, very thought-provoking; thanks.
― never ending bath infusion (Doctor Casino), Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:45 (eight years ago) link
― #amazing #babies #touching (harbl), Thursday, March 24, 2016 6:27 AM (5 hours ago
iirc ken thompson, the brooklyn DA, is doing some pretty progressive stuff with nonviolent drug crimes and trying to get people's outstanding warrants off the books, but i can't find the links right now. i'm pretty sure it's the same guy
but yeah, one wonders what the recommendation would be had a civilian accidentally killed a police officer
― k3vin k., Thursday, 24 March 2016 15:56 (eight years ago) link
http://gawker.com/please-dont-shoot-me-man-begged-before-cop-shot-and-1767973196
― T.L.O.P.son (Phil D.), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 16:38 (eight years ago) link
1) this clearly seems like an incident that should result in an indictment2) I expect this will result in an indictment because the victim was a white man3) I continue to be enraged by previous incidents involving black people that have not resulted in indictments
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:03 (eight years ago) link
there was body camera footage, which seems likely to have played a role. he's been charged with 2nd degree murder
― k3vin k., Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:18 (eight years ago) link
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/30/nyregion/bratton-has-strong-concerns-about-arrest-of-a-mailman-in-brooklyn.html?_r=0
Over the past six years at least three of the officers involved have been named in federal civil rights suits alleging false arrest, among other claims. Most of the cases remain active, and such suits are not uncommon.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:34 (eight years ago) link
http://www.hennepinattorney.org/news/news/2016/March/jamar-clark-decision
Well this is fucking bullshit
― Here, let me Danesplain that for you (jjjusten), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 17:39 (eight years ago) link
yup. fucking bullshit.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 30 March 2016 18:42 (eight years ago) link
to my point
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:04 (eight years ago) link
btw I was reading the earlier part of this thread to remind myself of everything that has been piling up over the past few years and can we all agree that if Vic Perry was one of the worst posters we've ever had
― i like to trump and i am crazy (DJP), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:09 (eight years ago) link
yes
― the 'major tom guy' (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 March 2016 19:11 (eight years ago) link