John Cale S/D

hahaha the reworking is a blast

which it feels weird to characterize anything about this album as a "blast" but idk he kinda made it fun

haha, yeah, i think i'd call it "fun", too! which is quite a feat, considering these songs.

also "back to the end" is super gorgeous

if I didn't like the "Close Watch" rework will I still find things to like y/n

definitely, every rework is pretty distinct

http://www.stereogum.com/1869163/watch-john-cale-play-the-velvet-underground-nico-with-animal-collective-the-libertines-mark-lanegan/video/

No-thanks

I refuse to listen to anything a member of Animal Collective has contributed to

I feel the same about the Libertines.

agggh no

http://concert.arte.tv/fr/john-cale-and-guests-velvet-underground-nico

(= same thing as before but complete and HD)

John Cale ‏@therealjohncale 37m37 minutes ago
Its official, @therealjohncale joins #BowieProms on July 29 Royal Albert Hall
http://bit.ly/29rbHdd

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnBoy2GWEAAPKj0.jpg:large

Cool.

Just was listing to "in Every Dream Home A Heartache" and thinking how much Bryan Ferry's vocal sounded like John Cale. In fact before I recognized what song it was really thought it was John Cale.

Baby John Cale! He whispered "I performed in a concert that lasted 18 hours" into a game show host's ear <3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=11&v=0mqO-xsRyTM

That Welsh accent is so thick you could cut it with a knife.

He's playing at the Joshua Tree Desert Daze festival this coming weekend, and Terry Riley is also on the bill for the same day. I'm thinking how cool it would be if they do some Church of Anthrax stuff together.

http://desertdaze.org/

that video just set me up for the day :)

Is Even Cowgirls Get The Blues still available? He was really intense in the late 70s, did a bit of a twin guitar thing going on .
NOt sure taht's even his best from the era but him between like 76 and 81 live is pretty great, certainly up to the turn of the 80s.

I got a few sets fo his from Dime and other torrent sites that are great.

He's playing at the Joshua Tree Desert Daze festival this coming weekend, and Terry Riley is also on the bill for the same day. I'm thinking how cool it would be if they do some Church of Anthrax stuff together.

Riley is playing the same stage, immediately before Cale, so looks very promising (I'm going).

I'm not, unfortunately, but this does look like the best festival I've seen in So Cal for a long time.

Is Even Cowgirls Get The Blues still available? He was really intense in the late 70s, did a bit of a twin guitar thing going on .
NOt sure taht's even his best from the era but him between like 76 and 81 live is pretty great, certainly up to the turn of the 80s.

I got a few sets fo his from Dime and other torrent sites that are great.

I, uh, may have written a fairly long piece on this era recently: http://www.furious.com/perfect/johncalecowgirls.html

You can check out a pretty wide selection of late 70s shows, particularly the 1979 tour, under the Cale section here:

http://tela.sugarmegs.org/alpha/j.html

that's a great read

thanks a lot! There were a couple older ilx threads that helped me first get my bearings of the era before I started digging around more to write it.

Agreed, really good piece.

I've always been fascinated by this era but never really heard anything with decent sound. Of the recordings available, are any of the boots of better quality than Cowgirls?

Reading that excellent Perfect Sound Forever article (thanks!) got me thinking. Anyone put together a better sound quality version of the "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues" bootleg? Tyler, this seems right up your alley. ;-)

agggh live Church of Anthrax?!!?? jealous!!

Seems unlikely, tbh, but there may be some Cale/Riley interaction.

Of the recordings available, are any of the boots of better quality than Cowgirls?

― Naive Teen Idol

yes, I don't have my bootlegs to hand at the moment but iirc Dallas 1976 is totally goddamn amazing and sounds WAY better, I'll go through what I have and post more this evening. Pretty sure there's also a Toronto show with a bunch of great performances in slightly lower quality.

oh I see I wrote this thing:

http://shardsofbeauty.blogspot.com/2011/01/john-cale-live-in-late-70s-got-my.html

so those shows were Dallas '79 and Philadelphia '79

I should really fix those dead links

Yes please!

gimme a day or two

There was a compilation of unreleased late 70s/80s John Cale that circulated in 2013, really great stuff and mostly better sound quality than the "Cowgirls" boot (and completely different songs).

is that the one just called "Unreleased Songs"?
yeah, cale should really do a boxed set gathering together some good live tapes from this era (Sabotage redux?). was always surprised at the lo-fi quality of Cowgirls ... great performances though.

and great article, whitehallunity! definitely is going to send me back down the rabbit hole with late 70s cale

Looks like the Danceteria cd is going for a lot of £, that's the one that I picked up in Dublin about 25 years ago.
Wondered if anybody else had picked it up after taht. I don't think I've even heard anything about ROIR itself recently.
How does Cale feel about that era? Sounds like he was pretty messed up at the time

haha, yeah, all these shows sound pretty alcoholic ... can't really remember reading his later opinions about this era.

He either sounds drunk or miserably hungover during that whole period, so probably hard or unpleasant to recall. Any links to that 2013/Unreleased Songs thing? Really love this period.

Not seeing it listed now, but I saw him in 79 or 80, Birmingham AL, with Deerfrance, George Scott---think there were two full-time guitarists (Cale played it occasionally)? Maybe transitional, as the excellent new xpost PSF piece mentions: they did material from Sabotage Live, also "Pablo Picasso", "Even Cowgirls Get The Blues", and several others from the s/t LP, which I ordered from a Voice ad of mid-80s (don't remember how it sounded, but I prob cut it some slack for durty nostalgia's sake). He seemed right at home, even got doggie beggin' paws for my photog buddy during the smog-ripping "Walking The Dog", playing percussion on his hardhat (which he was wearing) while Deerfrance did her thing, kicked back with boots up on the keyboard, playing white noise guitar for a while, also the piano itself re "Waiting For My Man"---maybe he was drunk, but no prob that night.

Thanks again for all the compliments on the article, really means a lot. The link I posted earlier has nearly every 79 era show available as streaming mp3s. Here's some of the better ones:

New Yorker Theatre, Toronto, Feb 19th 1977:

http://ia600203.us.archive.org/10/items/JohnCale1977-02-19TorontoOntarioCanada/JohnCale1977-02-19TorontoOntarioCanada.mp3?cnt=0

Setlist: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JohnCale1977-02-19TorontoOntarioCanada.html

CBGBs, Dec 31st 78:

http://ia601408.us.archive.org/7/items/JohnCale1978-12-31CGGBsNYC/JohnCale1978-12-31CGGBsNYC.mp3?cnt=0

Setlist: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JohnCale1978-12-31CGGBsNYC.html

The Edge, Toronto, March 21st 1979:

http://ia600502.us.archive.org/16/items/JohnCale1979-03-21TheEdgeTorontoCanada/JohnCale1979-03-21TheEdgeTorontoCanada.mp3?cnt=0

Setlist: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JohnCale1979-03-21TheEdgeTorontoCanada.html

Palladium, Dallas, April 21st 1979:

http://www.archive.org/serve/JohnCale1979-04-21PalladiumDallasTX/JohnCale1979-04-21PalladiumDallasTX.mp3

Setlist: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JohnCale1979-04-21PalladiumDallasTX.html

Whisky A-Go-Go, April 30th 1979:

http://ia902707.us.archive.org/19/items/JohnCale1979-04-30WhiskAGoGoLosAngelesCA/JohnCale1979-04-30WhiskAGoGoLosAngelesCA.mp3?cnt=0

Setlist: http://tela.sugarmegs.org/_asxtela/asxcards/JohnCale1979-04-30WhiskAGoGoLosAngelesCA.html

There's lots more on that site if you browse around.

I had to refrain from going into even more detail about individual tapes in the article, but all the Toronto shows (near and dear to my heart being from Hamilton, just outside T.O.) from that period are nuts in the best way, as is the Dallas show from 79.

Great, thanks so much!! Wondering also about that tela post of a presumably somewhat musical encounter with Lester Bangs( I like LB's "Let It Blurt", the single on Cale's Spy label).

excellent PSF article btw, thanks

i'll upload that unreleased comp when i can ...

here it is: https://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/post/166501611517/john-cale-unreleased-songs-unreleased-cale-here

thanks!

Thanks!